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[XxBrokenBonezxX]

I'm glad they went to a good cause if Bioware didn't want them...but jesus...that's kinda like a slap in our faces.

[GoblinSapper]

XxBrokenBonezxX wrote...

I'm glad they went to a good cause if Bioware didn't want them...but jesus...that's kinda like a slap in our faces.

[Balmung31]

Actually, I've just thought of something...

I'm glad these cupcakes went to these kids. I'm sure it brightened their day. Very nice message, very hopeful and caring. But now I have to ask, Bioware...

I'm sure a lot of these kids aren't old enough to play Mass Effect just yet, but let's say for a moment they were.

With how dark and depressing the ending(s) are for ME3, do you think these kids that have such hard lots in life would feel better after playing through your trilogy, or worse?

[Rafe34]

Balmung31 wrote...

Actually, I've just thought of something...

I'm glad these cupcakes went to these kids. I'm sure it brightened their day. Very nice message, very hopeful and caring. But now I have to ask, Bioware...

I'm sure a lot of these kids aren't old enough to play Mass Effect just yet, but let's say for a moment they were.

With how dark and depressing the ending(s) are for ME3, do you think these kids that have such hard lots in life would feel better after playing through your trilogy, or worse?

While I appreciate your motive, your analogy fails.

I don't want a game, necessarily, that will just make kids feel better. I want one that makes sense. If its dark, fine. As long as it makes sense. THAT is the problem with ME3's endings, NOT that they're not all kittens and rainbows.

There are plenty of great games that I doubt kids would feel better after playing. Same goes for movies. Some games/movies are not good for kids in that situation. That does not, in and of itself, make it a bad game.

Modifié par Rafe34, 30 mars 2012 - 03:00 .

[jimmyw404]

Lotta pissed nerds on the bioware team that were looking forward to those cupcakes... oh well.

[Turtlicious]

Risselda wrote...

Whoa whoa....what?! Did you guys eat ANY of em?! The restraint

Much stronger than I...OM NOM NOM

The four hundred notes.

LOL

[The Angry One]

Paulomedi wrote...

They're right not to accept it. It's a reminder of dissatisfaction, not a nice treat to them.

Great that you donated it Bioware folks. Kudos to you.

However, by choosing an option other than the 3 presented to them, they disregarded our desire to end this event the way we wanted and infringed upon our artistic integrity.

Modifié par The Angry One, 30 mars 2012 - 03:44 .

[sammysoso]

 Serious props to you BioWare! Giving the cupcakes to the kids was really cool. 
I admire your restraint in not eating them 

[jimmyw404]

It's incredibly ironic that they took a fourth option: rejection. That's the same option that 90% of people who have finished ME3 have taken.

[Darthlawsuit]

We gave you the 3 choices that you gave us in-game. You had only 3 choices. You then chose to do a fourth option that was not part of the choices presented to you. Yet you gave us those choices in-game and told us those 3 choices were all we needed.

Even Bioware does not like being given a choice of only 3 options and chooses another option when the first 3 are not satisfactory. Why is it that Bioware will force the gamer to choose between one of 3 options that are all the same yet will not do the same themselves? Then tell us those 3 endings were great.

Bioware, you really are a hypocrite. We do a gesture of good will and you toss it aside to manipulate it into a PR stunt. Bioware, you have fallen to the Dark side.

[Billabong2011]

I wish I could respect Bioware's decision to donate them to those children.
While I'm over the moon that those kids were the ones receiving such nice treats, I feel it was a defensive action on Bioware's part to deflect our "creative/thoughtful" attempt at bringing their attention to the endings and, in essence, trying to compensate for rewriting them instead by being charitable. Essentially, they have 'gained the upper hand.'
I mean, am I the only one who thinks Bioware's decision is pretty see-through?

[jimmyw404]

Mesmurae wrote...

It wasn't enough that Bioware gave us a crappy ending to Mass Effect.

Now they're presenting 400 unfortunate children with the same choice between three colors.

Enough is enough, Bioware.

hahahha

[cutegigi]

I find their action pretty insulting.

[Eterna]

Kind of seems like a slap to the face for them. Not sure if it was necessary but if you're all happy....

[twizbuck]

Looks like a tray of desserts for kids after an episode of Sesame Street.

[Eterna]

GoblinSapper wrote...

Anyone else slightly INFURIATED they managed to squeeze in a backhanded ****slap to us even while graciously accepting the cupcakes and giving them to charity?

Oh this wasn't in the spirit of celebrating the game so trollololol SERIOUSLY?! REALLY!?!

No, because you get what you dish out. It was a sneaky little thing to do and was in poor taste to put the three ending colors and an a b amd c on them. What did you expect, of course they're upset. 

[Balmung31]

Rafe34 wrote...

Balmung31 wrote...

Actually, I've just thought of something...

I'm glad these cupcakes went to these kids. I'm sure it brightened their day. Very nice message, very hopeful and caring. But now I have to ask, Bioware...

I'm sure a lot of these kids aren't old enough to play Mass Effect just yet, but let's say for a moment they were.

With how dark and depressing the ending(s) are for ME3, do you think these kids that have such hard lots in life would feel better after playing through your trilogy, or worse?

While I appreciate your motive, your analogy fails.

I don't want a game, necessarily, that will just make kids feel better. I want one that makes sense. If its dark, fine. As long as it makes sense. THAT is the problem with ME3's endings, NOT that they're not all kittens and rainbows.

There are plenty of great games that I doubt kids would feel better after playing. Same goes for movies. Some games/movies are not good for kids in that situation. That does not, in and of itself, make it a bad game.

I would argue that a dark ending doesn't make sense, really.  Not unless the specific player WANTS it to. 

The game was filled with hopes and dreams from all these different characters.  Some were hopeful, some were fatalistic, just like real life.  In the end Shepard can decide whether to give these people encouragement in their troubles, or to tell them to suck it up and move on.  Focus on the fight, not your personal problems. 

Do you think kids in shelters like the one Bioware sent the cupcakes to would respond better to encouragement, or being told to shut up and get the job done? 

Modifié par Balmung31, 30 mars 2012 - 04:15 .

[FabricatedWookie]

Eterna5 wrote...

GoblinSapper wrote...

Anyone else slightly INFURIATED they managed to squeeze in a backhanded ****slap to us even while graciously accepting the cupcakes and giving them to charity?

Oh this wasn't in the spirit of celebrating the game so trollololol SERIOUSLY?! REALLY!?!

No, because you get what you dish out. It was a sneaky little thing to do and was in poor taste to put the three ending colors and an a b amd c on them. What did you expect, of course they're upset. 

We have different definitions of poor taste.

which is not to say it wasn't a jab by the fans. Their reaction is perfectly understandable, and well executed I think.

Modifié par FabricatedWookie, 30 mars 2012 - 04:03 .

[Galateaaa]

why are they allowed to choose option D

[lordofdogtown19]

 omg did anyone else see the last picture in the article with the note attached to it? 

 http://media1.gamein...upcakes6104.jpg 

It's so ****ing hilarious 

Modifié par lordofdogtown19, 30 mars 2012 - 04:02 .

[ThePasserby]

Community manager Chris Priestly posted the following statement on BioWare's forums:
 However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team.

It's clear that Bioware can't take what it dishes out. But more importantly, I am greatly perturbed by the sentence in bold. Does Bioware seriously think that they are entitled to feedback that are prefaced with "I love your game! And here is how I think it'll make it even better: ... "

So, on the one hand they denigrate us, their customers, as being too simple-minded to "get" their "artsy" and "profound" ending, but they expect us to treat them with kids' gloves when we tell them our opinion of the ending? Are they children who can't appreciate criticism, even when it is presented in a humourous form?

[Eterna]

ThePasserby wrote...

Community manager Chris Priestly posted the following statement on BioWare's forums:
 However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team.

It's clear that Bioware can't take what it dishes out. But more importantly, I am greatly perturbed by the sentence in bold. Does Bioware seriously think that they are entitled to feedback that are prefaced with "I love your game! And here is how I think it'll make it even better: ... "

So, on the one hand they denigrate us, their customers, as being too simple-minded to "get" their "artsy" and "profound" ending, but they expect us to treat them with kids' gloves when we tell them our opinion of the ending? Are they children who can't appreciate criticism, even when it is presented in a humourous form?

 No, they don't want hundreads of cupcakes showing up on their steps in such a derogatory manner. It's not the cupcakes they don't like, it's the message behind and the ultimately immature reason for them being sent. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 30 mars 2012 - 04:06 .

[Balmung31]

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

 omg did anyone else see the last picture in the article with the note attached to it? 

 http://media1.gamein...upcakes6104.jpg 

It's so ****ing hilarious 

Okay, now I see why they wouldn't accept.  That IS a thinly-veiled insult. 

Still, now they know how it feels.  As cruel as that may be, that IS how I felt with the ending. 

If Bioware doesn't like being insulted, don't insult the fans.  Simple, no?