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[PhoenixDove1]

Jagri wrote...

I think irony would be a rather delicious word at the moment.

Bioware was given three choices...
Blue, Red, or Green and guess what!
They picked a fourth option.

Now Bioware all we ask is for our fourth option...

This

[Mr.House]

I really like the A,B,C. Makes the cupcakes better.

Modifié par Mr.House, 29 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[lordofdogtown19]

Dark Specie wrote...

How ironic. Bioware decides that they don't like this and take the fourth option...

If only we had the same option...

Hopefully they'll give us a fourth option.

All that aside what an aweomse protest idea. Pure genius 

Modifié par lordofdogtown19, 29 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[RedDuke2011]

Bioware, you took the 4th option, where's ours?

[DreamTension]

GoblinSapper wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

First of all, nobody is arguing that giving to charity is bad. It is a wonderful gesture by BioWare and an incredibly shrewd move. We are all very happy people are enjoying the cupcakes.

Stop trying to twist what people are saying.

The issue I have is that BioWare shrugged it off and twisted it around. They gave the credit to the fans sure, but by not accepting and just putting it off they are deflecting this.

What they could have done was accept with maybe a touch of HUMILITY instead of having including a shot at the upset fans. And THEN they could give to Charity on their own.

They could even say our fans sent us cupcakes so we feel more deserving people need the cupcakes.

It's not the action; it's how they are saying it.

Not even that! It could've been a simple tweet, "Thanks for the Cupcakes, we gave them to a Kids Shelter :)" and everyone would go awwww and ask for clarification and Bioware would be like oh well we thought these kids could use these treats more then us and then people would go AWWW again

INSTEAD.

The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team. 

INSTEAD, PR MORAL SUPERIORITY BULL****

Yep.  That would have been even easier.

[ImmovableMover]

This would have been a different story if I was in charge, if only slightly

"300 cupcakes donated to charity"

[gmdinmd]

Malanek999 wrote...

CingCoCo wrote...

Why is everybody so upset? It wasnt celebratory! It was a way to get in touch with them and show them how bad they f*cked up! 

I wasn't the mastermind behind the idea but that is certainly not how I interpreted it. I hope that was not what made Bioware turn them away.

I can see Bioware did this. And it doesn't really bother me. But giving away a gift generally isn't considered polite. Ballsy move. 

Although to be honest, if this was my labor of love, and one of these cupcakes showed up and I felt they way I think most of them probably feel at this stage I wouldn't be able to eat one. 

[Gibsn]

Anyone bothered that they went to GI with this instead of releasing a statement or posting here.

[Wickwrackscar]

Animositisomina wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Publisher refuses just desserts.

Another alternatve:
Publisher refuses. Just deserts.

[Persephone]

Gibsn wrote...

Anyone bothered that they went to GI with this instead of releasing a statement or posting here.

Not me.

[GBJ13]

Somebody should make a banner about this:

Bioware Cupcakes Decision
When presented with A, B, or C cupcakes, even Bioware selects another option.

In all seriousness though, I'm not sure what fans who dislike the ending can do under Bioware's rubric. So far, they've been criticized for donating to charity and sending cupcakes, that seems the most mild protest ever. I think the PR people made a mistake when they articulated that standard. If people don't feel they have any constructive way to complain about the ending, they're more likely to do the stuff Bioware doesn't want them doing.

Modifié par GBJ13, 29 mars 2012 - 08:25 .

[GoblinSapper]

 Alright some people are having trouble following me so i'll break it down.

Today, we received the 400 cupcakes you collectively sent us through your donations to express your feelings about the endings of Mass Effect 3. We want you to know; we are indeed listening to all fan response and acknowledge your feedback. We appreciate creative and thoughtful attempts like this one. 

The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team.

BioWare regularly works with many deserving charities, as such it was decided that rather than passing out the cupcakes to staff or wasting good food, to donate them on behalf of our fans to a local Edmonton youth shelter. We know that for the kids that have to use this facility, something as simple as a cupcake is a rare treat and would definitely brighten up their day. Thank you to the fine folks at the local youth shelter for accepting the donation and to the fans who donated the cupcakes.

Please keep providing your feedback on Mass Effect 3, we’re still listening.

This is the full message.

This is the good part of the message. Bold mine.

This is the part of the message I like

Today, we received the 400 cupcakes you collectively sent us through your donations to express your feelings about the endings of Mass Effect 3. We want you to know; we are indeed listening to all fan response and acknowledge your feedback. We appreciate creative and thoughtful attempts like this one. 

BioWare regularly works with many deserving charities, as such it was decided that rather than passing out the cupcakes to staff or wasting good food, to donate them on behalf of our fans to a local Edmonton youth shelter. We know that for the kids that have to use this facility, something as simple as a cupcake is a rare treat and would definitely brighten up their day. Thank you to the fine folks at the local youth shelter for accepting the donation and to the fans who donated the cupcakes.

Please keep providing your feedback on Mass Effect 3, we’re still listening.

Can you see the difference? It still works as a complete statement doesn't it.

Here's the part I removed.

The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team. 

This jammy bit here is nothing more then a backhanded PR ****slap buried in charity, the kind of charity -we ourselves were insulted for doing- when we were accused of dragging kids into things and using them as a shield. I do NOT like being talked down to, let alone by people I -PAY-.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Fourth option bs....

[Sesshaku]

GoblinSapper wrote...

This is Art. You can't argue with the Bakers artistic integrity.

[Taboo]

GBJ13 wrote...

Somebody should make a banner about this:

Bioware Cupcakes Decision
When presented with A, B, or C cupcakes, even Bioware selects another option.

In all seriousness though, I'm not sure what fans who dislike the ending can do under Bioware's rubric. So far, they've been criticized for donating to charity and sending cupcakes, that seems the most mild protest ever. I think the PR people made a mistake when they articulated that standard. If people don't feel they have any constructive way to complain about the ending, they're more likely to do the stuff Bioware doesn't want them doing.

THIS.

[Nobrandminda]

 Well that's just nice all around.  Fans get to express their opinion in a creative way, and a charity gets to pass out cupcakes to children.  Three way win.

[jspiess]

I do not have a problem with them donating the cupcakes to the children

[Dridengx]

GoblinSapper wrote...

And here was Biowares response.

Today, we received the 400 cupcakes you collectively sent us through your donations to express your feelings about the endings of Mass Effect 3. We want you to know; we are indeed listening to all fan response and acknowledge your feedback. We appreciate creative and thoughtful attempts like this one.

The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team.

BioWare regularly works with many deserving charities, as such it was decided that rather than passing out the cupcakes to staff or wasting good food, to donate them on behalf of our fans to a local Edmonton youth shelter. We know that for the kids that have to use this facility, something as simple as a cupcake is a rare treat and would definitely brighten up their day. Thank you to the fine folks at the local youth shelter for accepting the donation and to the fans who donated the cupcakes.

Please keep providing your feedback on Mass Effect 3, we’re still listening.

THEY TURNED THE CUPCAKES AWAY.

You thought they would eat them? LOL I thought they would have thrown them away. I guess this was a better solution

[warrior256]

GoblinSapper wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

First of all, nobody is arguing that giving to charity is bad. It is a wonderful gesture by BioWare and an incredibly shrewd move. We are all very happy people are enjoying the cupcakes.

Stop trying to twist what people are saying.

The issue I have is that BioWare shrugged it off and twisted it around. They gave the credit to the fans sure, but by not accepting and just putting it off they are deflecting this.

What they could have done was accept with maybe a touch of HUMILITY instead of having including a shot at the upset fans. And THEN they could give to Charity on their own.

They could even say our fans sent us cupcakes so we feel more deserving people need the cupcakes.

It's not the action; it's how they are saying it.

Not even that! It could've been a simple tweet, "Thanks for the Cupcakes, we gave them to a Kids Shelter :)" and everyone would go awwww and ask for clarification and Bioware would be like oh well we thought these kids could use these treats more then us and then people would go AWWW again

INSTEAD.

The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team. 

INSTEAD, PR MORAL SUPERIORITY BULL****

Well said. I love the fact that these cupcakes went to kids. I just think they seriously screwed up the wording of their statement. It feels like it was done as a way to get back at us rather then because they thought the kids deserved it more. Saying something like "While we appreciate the intention behind sending us the cupcakes, we feel they would be better off in a local youth shelter, so we have donated them to the shelter in your name" sounds much better.

[aliengmr1]

The Angry One wrote...

This should be a newspaper headline.
"BIOWARE REFUSES TO PICK A COLOUR. CHOOSES HAPPY ENDING INSTEAD."

[sergio71785]

Jagri wrote...

I think irony would be a rather delicious word at the moment.

Bioware was given three choices...
Blue, Red, or Green and guess what!
They picked a fourth option.

Now Bioware all we ask is for our fourth option...

:lol::lol:

The irony is far more delicious than those cupcakes could ever be.

[MustacheManatee]

GoblinSapper wrote...

 Alright some people are having trouble following me so i'll break it down.

Today, we received the 400 cupcakes you collectively sent us through your donations to express your feelings about the endings of Mass Effect 3. We want you to know; we are indeed listening to all fan response and acknowledge your feedback. We appreciate creative and thoughtful attempts like this one. 

The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team.

BioWare regularly works with many deserving charities, as such it was decided that rather than passing out the cupcakes to staff or wasting good food, to donate them on behalf of our fans to a local Edmonton youth shelter. We know that for the kids that have to use this facility, something as simple as a cupcake is a rare treat and would definitely brighten up their day. Thank you to the fine folks at the local youth shelter for accepting the donation and to the fans who donated the cupcakes.

Please keep providing your feedback on Mass Effect 3, we’re still listening.

This is the full message.

This is the good part of the message. Bold mine.

This is the part of the message I like

Today, we received the 400 cupcakes you collectively sent us through your donations to express your feelings about the endings of Mass Effect 3. We want you to know; we are indeed listening to all fan response and acknowledge your feedback. We appreciate creative and thoughtful attempts like this one. 

BioWare regularly works with many deserving charities, as such it was decided that rather than passing out the cupcakes to staff or wasting good food, to donate them on behalf of our fans to a local Edmonton youth shelter. We know that for the kids that have to use this facility, something as simple as a cupcake is a rare treat and would definitely brighten up their day. Thank you to the fine folks at the local youth shelter for accepting the donation and to the fans who donated the cupcakes.

Please keep providing your feedback on Mass Effect 3, we’re still listening.

Can you see the difference? It still works as a complete statement doesn't it.

Here's the part I removed.

The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team. 

This jammy bit here is nothing more then a backhanded PR ****slap buried in charity, the kind of charity -we ourselves were insulted for doing- when we were accused of dragging kids into things and using them as a shield. I do NOT like being talked down to, let alone by people I -PAY-.

Nailed it! Why they continue to be so hypocritical, and inulting, I have no idea. It's not helping their cause. Bioware needs a new PR department. Just one disaster after another.

[kylehasnobutt]

uh... i don't think Bioware got the message.

[Taboo]

kylehasnobutt wrote...

uh... i don't think Bioware got the message.

Then let's send more!

Cakes! Brownies! Cookies!

[Persephone]

kylehasnobutt wrote...

uh... i don't think Bioware got the message.

They did. That's why they gave the cupcakes to people who really deserve them.