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[Hexley UK]

Do we know anyone who delivers coloured toilet rolls?

[Karrie788]

Persephone wrote...

kylehasnobutt wrote...

uh... i don't think Bioware got the message.

They did. That's why they gave the cupcakes to people who really deserve them.

Agreed. Seriously, was anyone expecting Bioware to accept the cupcakes? What they did was better than just throw them away.

[Yubz]

They chose D... that's not how it's supposed to work.
You will eat your ABC cupcakes no matter how much you hate them >_>

[Dridengx]

CingCoCo wrote...

Why is everybody so upset? It wasnt celebratory! It was a way to get in touch with them and show them how bad they f*cked up! They recieved it. It got media attention. Im pretty sure every single guy there knows why they got those cupcakes and what they looked like. Actually Im happy they rejected them this way:
First they didnt DESERVE those delicious cupcakes in the first place.

And there it is. Retake failed once again to try and look good in the public eye. You guys could atleast hide your plans before being exposed before they even work lol

[spiriticon]

If someone gave you a prize because you finished last in a race, would you accept it? Of course not.

BioWare did the right thing, and a lot of poor children are happy as a result.

Great idea, great response. I've not seen a a fanbase this dedicated to a developer ever.

Modifié par spiriticon, 29 mars 2012 - 08:32 .

[Hexley UK]

I don't think anyone is saying it was a bad thing to give them to kids.

Just seems the statement was very PR heavy and backhanded.....still we made our point so whatever.

[Taboo]

Dridengx wrote...

CingCoCo wrote...

Why is everybody so upset? It wasnt celebratory! It was a way to get in touch with them and show them how bad they f*cked up! They recieved it. It got media attention. Im pretty sure every single guy there knows why they got those cupcakes and what they looked like. Actually Im happy they rejected them this way:
First they didnt DESERVE those delicious cupcakes in the first place.

And there it is. Retake failed once again to try and look good in the public eye. You guys could atleast hide your plans before being exposed before they even work lol

Thanks for playing.

[webrakefornobody]

The Angry One wrote...

Jagri wrote...

I think irony would be a rather delicious word at the moment.

Bioware was given three choices...
Blue, Red, or Green and guess what!
They picked a fourth option.

Now Bioware all we ask is for our fourth option...

ROFL! Oh my god, I didn't even think of that. Awesome.

don't forget that they didn't eat the sweets, because the reason they were sent to them was too bitter.

BW doesn't like bittersweet...

Modifié par webrakefornobody, 29 mars 2012 - 08:33 .

[kyg_20X6]

Weren't they all tweeting, when it was originally announced, stuff like 'oh yum, cupcakes, this is awesomex!'. Guess that was either bull**** or they thought they could spin it.

I think the line that bothers me the most is the one about only feedback that 'celebrates their work and achievement' will be sent to the team. Wow, what a brilliant way to run a company and MANAGE A COMMUNITY. So I guess we won't be getting anything in April then. Maybe more Starchild?

[Wickwrackscar]

MustacheManatee wrote...

GoblinSapper wrote...

 Alright some people are having trouble following me so i'll break it down.

Today, we received the 400 cupcakes you collectively sent us through your donations to express your feelings about the endings of Mass Effect 3. We want you to know; we are indeed listening to all fan response and acknowledge your feedback. We appreciate creative and thoughtful attempts like this one. 

The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team.

BioWare regularly works with many deserving charities, as such it was decided that rather than passing out the cupcakes to staff or wasting good food, to donate them on behalf of our fans to a local Edmonton youth shelter. We know that for the kids that have to use this facility, something as simple as a cupcake is a rare treat and would definitely brighten up their day. Thank you to the fine folks at the local youth shelter for accepting the donation and to the fans who donated the cupcakes.

Please keep providing your feedback on Mass Effect 3, we’re still listening.

This is the full message.

This is the good part of the message. Bold mine.

This is the part of the message I like

Today, we received the 400 cupcakes you collectively sent us through your donations to express your feelings about the endings of Mass Effect 3. We want you to know; we are indeed listening to all fan response and acknowledge your feedback. We appreciate creative and thoughtful attempts like this one. 

BioWare regularly works with many deserving charities, as such it was decided that rather than passing out the cupcakes to staff or wasting good food, to donate them on behalf of our fans to a local Edmonton youth shelter. We know that for the kids that have to use this facility, something as simple as a cupcake is a rare treat and would definitely brighten up their day. Thank you to the fine folks at the local youth shelter for accepting the donation and to the fans who donated the cupcakes.

Please keep providing your feedback on Mass Effect 3, we’re still listening.

Can you see the difference? It still works as a complete statement doesn't it.

Here's the part I removed.

The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team. 

This jammy bit here is nothing more then a backhanded PR ****slap buried in charity, the kind of charity -we ourselves were insulted for doing- when we were accused of dragging kids into things and using them as a shield. I do NOT like being talked down to, let alone by people I -PAY-.

Nailed it! Why they continue to be so hypocritical, and inulting, I have no idea. It's not helping their cause. Bioware needs a new PR department. Just one disaster after another.

C'mon give it a rest. We send them a message that, in it's essence, wasn't very nice. Their reaction is absolutely okay and understandable. I hate the ending and the waiting for a clear statement just like the next guy, but I can't blame them for that kind of awnser this time.

[Karrie788]

Dridengx wrote...

CingCoCo wrote...

Why is everybody so upset? It wasnt celebratory! It was a way to get in touch with them and show them how bad they f*cked up! They recieved it. It got media attention. Im pretty sure every single guy there knows why they got those cupcakes and what they looked like. Actually Im happy they rejected them this way:
First they didnt DESERVE those delicious cupcakes in the first place.

And there it is. Retake failed once again to try and look good in the public eye. You guys could atleast hide your plans before being exposed before they even work lol

Actually I think Retake succeeded in expressing their opinion in a creative and funny way. And Bioware responded in kind.

[lordofdogtown19]

The important part is they got the cupcakes and acknowledged what they were for.

Giving them to needy kids is fine. In fact that's great.

[beccathelion]

GoblinSapper wrote...

Anyone else slightly INFURIATED they managed to squeeze in a backhanded ****slap to us even while graciously accepting the cupcakes and giving them to charity?

Oh this wasn't in the spirit of celebrating the game so trollololol SERIOUSLY?! REALLY!?!

this, but also, i see where they are coming from. at least some kids got to eat some treats.

Modifié par beccathelion, 29 mars 2012 - 08:34 .

[Chaoswind]

Jagri wrote...

I think irony would be a rather delicious word at the moment.

Bioware was given three choices...
Blue, Red, or Green and guess what!
They picked a fourth option.

Now Bioware all we ask is for our fourth option...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You win the thread

[Babyberry]

They could have worded it better. They could have said, "there is no way we can eat this many cupcakes, so we donated them." Instead, they made it into another issue where fans weren't patting them on the back for the ending, so they obviously couldn't accept them.

Seriously, this could have been handled way better, but instead I see this as another notch in the "Bioware doesn't get it" category, and I am even further convinced that the ending dlc is not going to fix the ending.

[Simi Parthenopaeus]

Hexley UK wrote...

Do we know anyone who delivers coloured toilet rolls?

Um... there used to be a place that would make rolls of toilet papers where you could put someones face on each sheet... dont see why you couldnt get colors heh

[Dridengx]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

CingCoCo wrote...

Why is everybody so upset? It wasnt celebratory! It was a way to get in touch with them and show them how bad they f*cked up! They recieved it. It got media attention. Im pretty sure every single guy there knows why they got those cupcakes and what they looked like. Actually Im happy they rejected them this way:
First they didnt DESERVE those delicious cupcakes in the first place.

And there it is. Retake failed once again to try and look good in the public eye. You guys could atleast hide your plans before being exposed before they even work lol

Thanks for playing.

playing you lost three times bro. lost with your ending, lost with charity, lost with cupcakes. failure is the only option?

[Captain Arty]

How many times will BioWare PR screw this up.

I mean, seriously. All they had to do on this one was post a silly response like, "We got your message. Very creative! Looks delicious but we think these would be better placed in the hands of some kids that deserve a treat. We're discussing what to do about the endings and will keep you all posted."

I swear, when video game historians look back on this whole thing, it's going up there with great game disasters of all-time. Every time they've been given a way out, or an option to reconcile with alienated fans, they've chosen to alienate more fans.

(*facepalm)

[DESSYX]

Proof that BioWare will find a way to give 3 color choices with the same taste to everyone, including those who can't even play ME3. At least these kids will get a better tasting ending than we did.

[Faunwea]

I'm hungry for cupcakes...

[Animositisomina]

Persephone wrote...

kylehasnobutt wrote...

uh... i don't think Bioware got the message.

They did. That's why they gave the cupcakes to people who really deserve them.

That's a lovely shade of brown on your nose.

[MPSai]

We only want to hear feedback celebrating how awesome we are, no criticism no matter how valid plz.

What did Bioware hire a bunch of random deviantART members or something?

Modifié par MPSai, 29 mars 2012 - 08:35 .

[Captain Arty]

Dridengx wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

CingCoCo wrote...

Why is everybody so upset? It wasnt celebratory! It was a way to get in touch with them and show them how bad they f*cked up! They recieved it. It got media attention. Im pretty sure every single guy there knows why they got those cupcakes and what they looked like. Actually Im happy they rejected them this way:
First they didnt DESERVE those delicious cupcakes in the first place.

And there it is. Retake failed once again to try and look good in the public eye. You guys could atleast hide your plans before being exposed before they even work lol

Thanks for playing.

playing you lost three times bro. lost with your ending, lost with charity, lost with cupcakes. failure is the only option?

You are kind of a downer.

[DreamTension]

Karrie788 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

kylehasnobutt wrote...

uh... i don't think Bioware got the message.

They did. That's why they gave the cupcakes to people who really deserve them.

Agreed. Seriously, was anyone expecting Bioware to accept the cupcakes? What they did was better than just throw them away.

Christ....nobody is complaining about giving to charity.  I can't speak for others but no, I didn't think they would eat them.  I'm really glad they gave them to kids.  It's wonderful.

It was how they handled the situation.  They spun it around, gave more PR double talk, and had a jab at the fans.  Zero humility.  Zero respect.  It's how I took it.  They could have responded and sounded less like a PR machine...

[Dridengx]

Karrie788 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

CingCoCo wrote...

Why is everybody so upset? It wasnt celebratory! It was a way to get in touch with them and show them how bad they f*cked up! They recieved it. It got media attention. Im pretty sure every single guy there knows why they got those cupcakes and what they looked like. Actually Im happy they rejected them this way:
First they didnt DESERVE those delicious cupcakes in the first place.

And there it is. Retake failed once again to try and look good in the public eye. You guys could atleast hide your plans before being exposed before they even work lol

Actually I think Retake succeeded in expressing their opinion in a creative and funny way. And Bioware responded in kind.

Really? Because as far as I've seen Retake's goal isn't expressing their opinion, they do that 24/7, its to get a better ending which is something I don't see them getting