Eh, this latest installment highlights the one thing I don't like about Marauder Shields, which is all the "hard men making hard decisions" Cerberus apologism. Apart from that I think it's fantastic.
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Posté 16 février 2013 - 07:09
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Is there not an audiobook for every chapter? I read the 'Kirrahe-Hold the Line' chapter with the audiobook. Gave me goosebumps.
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Posté 17 février 2013 - 01:58
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Is there not an audiobook for every chapter? I read the 'Kirrahe-Hold the Line' chapter with the audiobook. Gave me goosebumps.
Not yet, but they're working on it. The first audiobook wasn't made until Episode 21: Keys and Echoes, and I believe was a fan effort by the talented Matt "Calavera" O'Connor. Later productions have had to skip around due to which characters had and hadn't been casted. Kirrahe was among the earliest, while to my knowledge Joker and Edi (for example) have yet to be.
"And we will hold the line. For the very last time." (You know, now I need to see if I can make a MS Kirrahe wallpaper...)
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Posté 17 février 2013 - 04:41
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I see, I now check for an audiobook track before moving on to a new chapter. The voice acting and the sound effects are really good. Especially Tali. How the f did they nail that voice?
I've read until chapter 30 and almost all of them bring out strong emotions. But that's down to the amount of brilliantly written dialogue and powerful imagery.
Spoilers below ...
'Death or life ... whatever fate brings you Shepard. You will not face it alone ...'
'I will help you take your first step, as you helped me take my last ...'
'What kind of god ... can be blown up from the inside ...'
I've read until chapter 30 and almost all of them bring out strong emotions. But that's down to the amount of brilliantly written dialogue and powerful imagery.
Spoilers below ...
'Death or life ... whatever fate brings you Shepard. You will not face it alone ...'
'I will help you take your first step, as you helped me take my last ...'
'What kind of god ... can be blown up from the inside ...'
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Posté 21 février 2013 - 03:36
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Eh, this latest installment highlights the one thing I don't like about Marauder Shields, which is all the "hard men making hard decisions" Cerberus apologism. Apart from that I think it's fantastic.
Oh, this is actually something I must clarify.
I'm not a Cerberus apologist - Adam Solheim is (the guy presenting his point of view at the end of the last comic).
I'm generally a 100% Paragon in-game, and I'm doing my best to be a pretty well-defined Paragon in my real life as well, if you know what I mean. Not always possible, but, hey... What I don't like, however, is stripping characters of their multi-dimensional perspective, just for the sake of emphasizing who the good guys are and that evil's evil. I love conflicts in which both sides think of themselves as "the good guys". I love the idea that yeah, evil things sometimes - a chance in a million - can lead to good stuff. I like to feel uneasy about a story, just because I can see that something "not nice" is bringing in results, even if I actually dislike that. I don't think stories should be moral plays - they should be allowed to explore and have (twisted) fun with some concepts. Not that this is in any way original in this day and age.
And because of that I preferred Cerberus' portrayal in ME2 over that in ME3 (back in the second game it was all about being grey with a tendency to go into black, but following actual goals that sounded like something a human being could follow, not just nazguls). I liked their role in the story, with my Shepard's moral ground constantly clashing with Cerberus' whoever-dies-dies-but-we-get-results standing. I missed that conflict in ME3 a bit, which is why I added it to my own little fanfic.
In short: the goal of this episode's codex isn't to tell you that *I* think Cerberus are the good guys. The goal of it is to have Adam tell you that that's what he believes in... And to acknowledge that what they do sometimes kills people for nothing... And sometimes brings in results - like it did in ME2. In the end it is up to you and your own moral standing to interpret that.
Cheers!
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Posté 21 février 2013 - 04:09
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Koobarex wrote...
RedBeardJim wrote...
Eh, this latest installment highlights the one thing I don't like about Marauder Shields, which is all the "hard men making hard decisions" Cerberus apologism. Apart from that I think it's fantastic.
Oh, this is actually something I must clarify.
I'm not a Cerberus apologist - Adam Solheim is (the guy presenting his point of view at the end of the last comic).
What I don't like, however, is stripping characters of their multi-dimensional perspective, just for the sake of emphasizing who the good guys are and that evil's evil. I love conflicts in which both sides think of themselves as "the good guys". I love the idea that yeah, evil things sometimes - a chance in a million - can lead to good stuff. I like to feel uneasy about a story, just because I can see that something "not nice" is bringing in results, even if I actually dislike that. I don't think stories should be moral plays - they should be allowed to explore and have (twisted) fun with some concepts. Not that this is in any way original in this day and age.
And because of that I preferred Cerberus' portrayal in ME2 over that in ME3 (back in the second game it was all about being grey with a tendency to go into black, but following actual goals that sounded like something a human being could follow, not just nazguls). I liked their role in the story, with my Shepard's moral ground constantly clashing with Cerberus' whoever-dies-dies-but-we-get-results standing. I missed that conflict in ME3 a bit, which is why I added it to my own little fanfic.
In short: the goal of this episode's codex isn't to tell you that *I* think Cerberus are the good guys. The goal of it is to have Adam tell you that that's what he believes in... And to acknowledge that what they do sometimes kills people for nothing... And sometimes brings in results - like it did in ME2. In the end it is up to you and your own moral standing to interpret that.
Cheers!
Hey Kooby, I have a question. Are you considering on making a few variations to the story due to romances and all that other jazz, kind of like what you did with Shepard's personal background? Because that would be cool.
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Posté 21 février 2013 - 05:25
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Very inspiring work indeed. I started reading chapter 39 while listening to the audio and it was amazing! Thanks to you both( Koobarex for your excellent work,and Reth Sheperd for placing the link to this inpirational chapter.)
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Posté 21 février 2013 - 03:02
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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Hey Kooby, I have a question. Are you considering on making a few variations to the story due to romances and all that other jazz, kind of like what you did with Shepard's personal background? Because that would be cool.
Yessir, that's the plan: variations for all the major romances.
Will cost me a bit of time, but that's the only way I'd have it.SBandYB2gder wrote...
Very inspiring work indeed. I started reading chapter 39 while listening to the audio and it was amazing! Thanks to you both( Koobarex for your excellent work,and Reth Sheperd for placing the link to this inpirational chapter.)
And thank you for reading and listening!
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Posté 21 février 2013 - 07:08
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Koobarex wrote...
Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Hey Kooby, I have a question. Are you considering on making a few variations to the story due to romances and all that other jazz, kind of like what you did with Shepard's personal background? Because that would be cool.
Yessir, that's the plan: variations for all the major romances.SBandYB2gder wrote...
Very inspiring work indeed. I started reading chapter 39 while listening to the audio and it was amazing! Thanks to you both( Koobarex for your excellent work,and Reth Sheperd for placing the link to this inpirational chapter.)
And thank you for reading and listening!
Keep being awesome Kooby.
Can't wait for the MS stuff and your other projects as well. Especially Starsignal.
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Posté 21 février 2013 - 11:27
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It really is great stuff. Since the game ended as such a giant turd, it's a way nice way to remember it.
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Posté 22 février 2013 - 09:38
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I absolutely love this comic! For me this is canon, even if the end is not yet revealed.
It's rather frightening that I've dreamt about a some-kind-of Mass Effect ending. In the last days I've come up with some new ideas and constructed the idea in my mind. It is not yet final and maybe never will be so I want to share it with you. Maybe you can use some elements for your comic.
In my dream the Illusive Man was shown in his typical pose, you can only see his silhoutte from behind and as usual he is smoking a cigarette. The scenery is his control room on Cronos-station as we all know it from the games, looking out for the dying star Anadius.
When he tooks his cigarette from the mouth he asks an incoming Cerberus agent the following: "How far is the Lakunae-project going."
Cerberus-agent: "It's ready."
Illusive Man: "Well. We have what we need. Now only the last threads must be spun. Pack up the most important documents, we're leaving."
(Illusive man is closing his transparent computer windows via omni-tool)
"As for now we have some time, but Shepard will soon notice ours."
Cerberus-agent: "And the Reapers?"
Illusive Man: "They are our slightest worry. Let they be my problem."
(Leng appears)
Leng (almost expectantly): "Shepard will soon arrive."
Illussive Man: "As expected. We need a projection to reach Sol... Deal with him."
Leng: "With pleasure."
Then it get's a little bit vague with my ideas. However, since Shepard's revealing of the Reaper menace and Sovereign's downfall Cerberus worked secretely on a project with Reaper-tech within an asteroid near Charon or Pluto. This and their very own stealth technology has preserved them from being discovered. And beside that, who would search in one of the many floating asteroids in the Sol-system for Cerberus, deeply in Alliance territory...?
This project they're working on, Project Lakunae, is a massive Reaper-like machine equipped with 4 proto-mass-accelerators (similar to this: http://www.moddb.com...hip-v3#imagebox).
With this unimaginable high-tech Reaper machine the Illusive Man wanted to bring humanity to a new age. An age where humanity is not in need of mass relays and Reaper tech anymore but can instead produce own Reaper tech to control the fate of the galaxy.
However, during research Harbinger interfered secretly and supplied Cerberus with new tech for Lakunae.
As Shepard arrives at Citadel the Illusive Man arrives with his massive new machine and presents Shepard the fruits of his work. The machine can only be controlled by a human. As the Illusive Man reveals all of this, certainly about his victory, Harbinger appears behind him, which the Illusive Man doesn't recognize (Shepard can see him floating slowly but steadily from the Citadel windows).
Then Harbinger says his most famous sentence: "Assuming direct control."
He assumes direct control over the Illusive Man and grants control of the machine. Shepard has to fight the machine and Harbinger wants to gain time for the activation of the Crucible (which is a Reaper tool similar to an antennae providing communication, indoctrination and a databank about all higher advanced species in the galaxy vice versa)
As Shepard can heavily damage Lakunae, the Illusive Man is freed from indoctrination for a short moment and activates the onboard mass accelerators at full charge. Shepard goes onboard and a giant mass effect field is surrounding the machine. This serves as some kind of hyper-dimensional communication device working via an
Einstein-Rosen-bridge (wormhole) similar to the machine one shown in the
film Contact.
It would communicate directly with the Reaper
indoctrination matrix. It comes out that Reapers wanted to preserve life
from being destroyed by bigger cosmic events (dark energy hypothesis
maybe...). However, with this device you are also able to contact the
genetic mind of all devoured species (Leviathans, Protheans, Keepers for
example). It is also revealed, that with every cycle the genetic variety of organic
beings changed dramatically. Thus, the Reapers couldn't build a new
Reaper from organic life as in previous cycles. The proto-Reaper in the Collector's base was an
attempt to build a new Reaper form. Husks, Collectors, Marauders etc.
are also some kind of Reaper "preservation", but they all failed being a "real" Reaper, making it
harder for the Reapers to continue the cycle for every time. The Lakunae
Project was a last attempt to build up a new Reaper with help from the beings they couldn't consume and convert into Reaper form.
I always wondered why they didn't use Reaper forces similar
to species of previous cycles.
A communication with the genetic mind
sampled from all of the unknown devoured species, in some kind a
communication with life itself (maybe represented through shadows like
in Shepard's dreams) could be an interesting new sight in the whole
Reaper affair.
As for the destiny for the Illusive Man: Shepard can decide to let him in the machine (renegade) or he is convinced to serve humanity once more (paragon): He sets the coordinates and the machine flies through Harbinger's chest with an insanely high speed, destroying him.
There would be also the possibility of throwing him out of the machine and after the whole event is over, he just vanishes (that's why he is illusive).
Well, only a bunch of ideas. I know that it has some flaws but it was just an experiment of thought mixed with a weird dream.
Keep up being amazing with your work, I can't wait for the final showdown!
It's rather frightening that I've dreamt about a some-kind-of Mass Effect ending. In the last days I've come up with some new ideas and constructed the idea in my mind. It is not yet final and maybe never will be so I want to share it with you. Maybe you can use some elements for your comic.
In my dream the Illusive Man was shown in his typical pose, you can only see his silhoutte from behind and as usual he is smoking a cigarette. The scenery is his control room on Cronos-station as we all know it from the games, looking out for the dying star Anadius.
When he tooks his cigarette from the mouth he asks an incoming Cerberus agent the following: "How far is the Lakunae-project going."
Cerberus-agent: "It's ready."
Illusive Man: "Well. We have what we need. Now only the last threads must be spun. Pack up the most important documents, we're leaving."
(Illusive man is closing his transparent computer windows via omni-tool)
"As for now we have some time, but Shepard will soon notice ours."
Cerberus-agent: "And the Reapers?"
Illusive Man: "They are our slightest worry. Let they be my problem."
(Leng appears)
Leng (almost expectantly): "Shepard will soon arrive."
Illussive Man: "As expected. We need a projection to reach Sol... Deal with him."
Leng: "With pleasure."
Then it get's a little bit vague with my ideas. However, since Shepard's revealing of the Reaper menace and Sovereign's downfall Cerberus worked secretely on a project with Reaper-tech within an asteroid near Charon or Pluto. This and their very own stealth technology has preserved them from being discovered. And beside that, who would search in one of the many floating asteroids in the Sol-system for Cerberus, deeply in Alliance territory...?
This project they're working on, Project Lakunae, is a massive Reaper-like machine equipped with 4 proto-mass-accelerators (similar to this: http://www.moddb.com...hip-v3#imagebox).
With this unimaginable high-tech Reaper machine the Illusive Man wanted to bring humanity to a new age. An age where humanity is not in need of mass relays and Reaper tech anymore but can instead produce own Reaper tech to control the fate of the galaxy.
However, during research Harbinger interfered secretly and supplied Cerberus with new tech for Lakunae.
As Shepard arrives at Citadel the Illusive Man arrives with his massive new machine and presents Shepard the fruits of his work. The machine can only be controlled by a human. As the Illusive Man reveals all of this, certainly about his victory, Harbinger appears behind him, which the Illusive Man doesn't recognize (Shepard can see him floating slowly but steadily from the Citadel windows).
Then Harbinger says his most famous sentence: "Assuming direct control."
He assumes direct control over the Illusive Man and grants control of the machine. Shepard has to fight the machine and Harbinger wants to gain time for the activation of the Crucible (which is a Reaper tool similar to an antennae providing communication, indoctrination and a databank about all higher advanced species in the galaxy vice versa)
As Shepard can heavily damage Lakunae, the Illusive Man is freed from indoctrination for a short moment and activates the onboard mass accelerators at full charge. Shepard goes onboard and a giant mass effect field is surrounding the machine. This serves as some kind of hyper-dimensional communication device working via an
Einstein-Rosen-bridge (wormhole) similar to the machine one shown in the
film Contact.
It would communicate directly with the Reaper
indoctrination matrix. It comes out that Reapers wanted to preserve life
from being destroyed by bigger cosmic events (dark energy hypothesis
maybe...). However, with this device you are also able to contact the
genetic mind of all devoured species (Leviathans, Protheans, Keepers for
example). It is also revealed, that with every cycle the genetic variety of organic
beings changed dramatically. Thus, the Reapers couldn't build a new
Reaper from organic life as in previous cycles. The proto-Reaper in the Collector's base was an
attempt to build a new Reaper form. Husks, Collectors, Marauders etc.
are also some kind of Reaper "preservation", but they all failed being a "real" Reaper, making it
harder for the Reapers to continue the cycle for every time. The Lakunae
Project was a last attempt to build up a new Reaper with help from the beings they couldn't consume and convert into Reaper form.
I always wondered why they didn't use Reaper forces similar
to species of previous cycles.
A communication with the genetic mind
sampled from all of the unknown devoured species, in some kind a
communication with life itself (maybe represented through shadows like
in Shepard's dreams) could be an interesting new sight in the whole
Reaper affair.
As for the destiny for the Illusive Man: Shepard can decide to let him in the machine (renegade) or he is convinced to serve humanity once more (paragon): He sets the coordinates and the machine flies through Harbinger's chest with an insanely high speed, destroying him.
There would be also the possibility of throwing him out of the machine and after the whole event is over, he just vanishes (that's why he is illusive).
Well, only a bunch of ideas. I know that it has some flaws but it was just an experiment of thought mixed with a weird dream.
Keep up being amazing with your work, I can't wait for the final showdown!
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Posté 04 mars 2013 - 02:56
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Marauder Shields #43: One and a Half, dedicated to Robin Sachs, is now here! Get up, maggot, and get your arse over to that archive RIGHT NOW!
May you rest in peace, Robin. We lost you too soon.
