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[AlexXIV]

dreman9999 wrote...
And that is the problem withthe reapers salution.....It's trying to be perfect but only with orgaince at advance levels. The thing they seem to fear with organics is that our nature with conflict and self distruction will destroy us and hamper younger racse as well. That almost happened with Project overlord.

What they fear is that organics become that powerful that they can actually win against the Reapers. Then the solution fails. But obviously it happened anyway because the fact that Shepard made it to the crucible somehow showed the starchild that they can't control life the way they planned. Just funny that they could not calculate that earlier. I mean honestly, even I can tell that if something gets harder and harder to do that eventually it will impossible for me.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 30 mars 2012 - 12:29 .

[The Angry One]

dreman9999 wrote...
And that is the problem withthe reapers salution.....It's trying to be perfect but only with orgaince at advance levels. The thing they seem to fear with organics is that our nature with conflict and self distruction will destroy us and hamper younger racse as well. That almost happened with Project overlord.

A project run by an organisation headed by a person the Reapers were indoctrinating.

DERP.

[MPSai]

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

[dreman9999]

AlexXIV wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
We will make things that will destory us and cause it to destroy us...

Too bad Reapers are probably made by organics as well and destroy us too. That's the point of the yo dawg thing.

The thing is that they do have apoint...What they sayed would happen with organics and machines almost did happen....Project overlord.
Did everyone forget we nearly had a robot apocalypse?

[RenownedRyan]

Lookout1390 wrote...

Colin Moriarty, quit making these threads.

:lol::lol:

[lillitheris]

(I'll also note that it's complete nonsense to claim that the universe is orderly except when biology happens - which is facilitated by said universe!)

But yeah. Entropy.

[dreman9999]

AlexXIV wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
And that is the problem withthe reapers salution.....It's trying to be perfect but only with orgaince at advance levels. The thing they seem to fear with organics is that our nature with conflict and self distruction will destroy us and hamper younger racse as well. That almost happened with Project overlord.

What they fear is that organics become that powerful that they can actually win against the Reapers. Then the solution fails. But obviously it happened anyway because the fact that Shepard made it to the crucible somehow showed the starchild that they can't control life the way they planned. Just funny that they could not calculate that earlier. I mean honestly, even I can tell that if something gets harder and harder to do that eventually it will impossible for me.

Please...If th ereaper wanted to kill us all....They can do it with ease. They can release a war level remodded straigh of the omega plague that can effectall organics.... They can use the mass relay tech and make warp bombs that can destroy planets... They can just take their fleets, seround a planet and glass them. tHE LAST Thing they fear is orgainic being too advance to kill off. In fact, the fear of organics losinf to synthetics because of the difference in tech is one of the reasons why they are doing this.

[SoraStrife]

dreman9999 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
We will make things that will destory us and cause it to destroy us...

Too bad Reapers are probably made by organics as well and destroy us too. That's the point of the yo dawg thing.

The thing is that they do have apoint...What they sayed would happen with organics and machines almost did happen....Project overlord.
Did everyone forget we nearly had a robot apocalypse?

As angry one stated, a robot apocolypse caused by an organization under reaper control. So... megaderp.

[dreman9999]

MPSai wrote...

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

It's mostly to stop organic for killing themselves off with there tech....It almost happen with project overlord.

[AlexXIV]

dreman9999 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
And that is the problem withthe reapers salution.....It's trying to be perfect but only with orgaince at advance levels. The thing they seem to fear with organics is that our nature with conflict and self distruction will destroy us and hamper younger racse as well. That almost happened with Project overlord.

What they fear is that organics become that powerful that they can actually win against the Reapers. Then the solution fails. But obviously it happened anyway because the fact that Shepard made it to the crucible somehow showed the starchild that they can't control life the way they planned. Just funny that they could not calculate that earlier. I mean honestly, even I can tell that if something gets harder and harder to do that eventually it will impossible for me.

Please...If th ereaper wanted to kill us all....They can do it with ease. They can release a war level remodded straigh of the omega plague that can effectall organics.... They can use the mass relay tech and make warp bombs that can destroy planets... They can just take their fleets, seround a planet and glass them. tHE LAST Thing they fear is orgainic being too advance to kill off. In fact, the fear of organics losinf to synthetics because of the difference in tech is one of the reasons why they are doing this.

Why don't they just support organics in their war against synthetics then?

[dreman9999]

SoraStrife wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
We will make things that will destory us and cause it to destroy us...

Too bad Reapers are probably made by organics as well and destroy us too. That's the point of the yo dawg thing.

The thing is that they do have apoint...What they sayed would happen with organics and machines almost did happen....Project overlord.
Did everyone forget we nearly had a robot apocalypse?

As angry one stated, a robot apocolypse caused by an organization under reaper control. So... megaderp.

Yes, the project head is so clearly indoctrinated...(Ooops , he was not..)Also, cerberus was not indocrinated till ME3.

[MPSai]

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

It's mostly to stop organic for killing themselves off with there tech....It almost happen with project overlord.

That's still preventing organic life from being killed off by that tech by killing off organic life with different tech. Starkid's motivation is ridiculous no matter which way you slice it.

[dreman9999]

The Angry One wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
And that is the problem withthe reapers salution.....It's trying to be perfect but only with orgaince at advance levels. The thing they seem to fear with organics is that our nature with conflict and self distruction will destroy us and hamper younger racse as well. That almost happened with Project overlord.

A project run by an organisation headed by a person the Reapers were indoctrinating.

DERP.

I missed this comment....

Yes, the project head is so clearly indoctrinated...(Ooops , he was not.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sideways.png[/smilie].)Also, cerberus was not indocrinated till ME3.

[AlexXIV]

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

It's mostly to stop organic for killing themselves off with there tech....It almost happen with project overlord.

How did Overlord almost destroy galactic civilisation ... also a human was in charge, even if authistic.

Far as I know Overlord aimed to control synthetics and almost worked.

[dreman9999]

MPSai wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

It's mostly to stop organic for killing themselves off with there tech....It almost happen with project overlord.

That's still preventing organic life from being killed off by that tech by killing off organic life with different tech. Starkid's motivation is ridiculous no matter which way you slice it.

How many time do the reapers have to say harvests life  to be reamde to reaper for people to get that they are havesting life to make reapers.

[Erield]

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

It's mostly to stop organic for killing themselves off with there tech....It almost happen with project overlord.

You seem to keep ignoring what people are saying about Overlord.

The person in charge of Overlord was Indoctrinated by the Reapers.  He was working for the Reapers.  So, your huge threat was entirely engineered by the Reapers.  This is an argument that cannot be considered.

Imagine that I have a gun.  I point it at you.  I then take your hand, and make you grab hold of a different gun.  While I still have my gun pointed towards you, I force you to take the gun in your hand and point it at you, too.  When I then make you pull the trigger of your gun--who shot you?  Was it me, or was it you?

[dreman9999]

AlexXIV wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
And that is the problem withthe reapers salution.....It's trying to be perfect but only with orgaince at advance levels. The thing they seem to fear with organics is that our nature with conflict and self distruction will destroy us and hamper younger racse as well. That almost happened with Project overlord.

What they fear is that organics become that powerful that they can actually win against the Reapers. Then the solution fails. But obviously it happened anyway because the fact that Shepard made it to the crucible somehow showed the starchild that they can't control life the way they planned. Just funny that they could not calculate that earlier. I mean honestly, even I can tell that if something gets harder and harder to do that eventually it will impossible for me.

Please...If th ereaper wanted to kill us all....They can do it with ease. They can release a war level remodded straigh of the omega plague that can effectall organics.... They can use the mass relay tech and make warp bombs that can destroy planets... They can just take their fleets, seround a planet and glass them. tHE LAST Thing they fear is orgainic being too advance to kill off. In fact, the fear of organics losinf to synthetics because of the difference in tech is one of the reasons why they are doing this.

Why don't they just support organics in their war against synthetics then?

Because it would not stop orgnics from being self destrutive. THat's the key issue...They think organics will destory themselves.

[The Angry One]

dreman9999 wrote...
Yes, the project head is so clearly indoctrinated...(Ooops , he was not.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sideways.png[/smilie].)Also, cerberus was not indocrinated till ME3.

Irrelevant. It was backed and funded by Cerberus, which was being indoctrinated.
You can't deny the influence.

[AlexXIV]

dreman9999 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
And that is the problem withthe reapers salution.....It's trying to be perfect but only with orgaince at advance levels. The thing they seem to fear with organics is that our nature with conflict and self distruction will destroy us and hamper younger racse as well. That almost happened with Project overlord.

What they fear is that organics become that powerful that they can actually win against the Reapers. Then the solution fails. But obviously it happened anyway because the fact that Shepard made it to the crucible somehow showed the starchild that they can't control life the way they planned. Just funny that they could not calculate that earlier. I mean honestly, even I can tell that if something gets harder and harder to do that eventually it will impossible for me.

Please...If th ereaper wanted to kill us all....They can do it with ease. They can release a war level remodded straigh of the omega plague that can effectall organics.... They can use the mass relay tech and make warp bombs that can destroy planets... They can just take their fleets, seround a planet and glass them. tHE LAST Thing they fear is orgainic being too advance to kill off. In fact, the fear of organics losinf to synthetics because of the difference in tech is one of the reasons why they are doing this.

Why don't they just support organics in their war against synthetics then?

Because it would not stop orgnics from being self destrutive. THat's the key issue...They think organics will destory themselves.

No they think synthetics will destroy organics. If they think organics will destroy themselves they never said that, the starchild at least doesn't say that. It would make alot more sense than the organics vs synthetics BS and there would not be a reason to wipe out all synthetics in the destroy ending.

[SoraStrife]

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

It's mostly to stop organic for killing themselves off with there tech....It almost happen with project overlord.

That's still preventing organic life from being killed off by that tech by killing off organic life with different tech. Starkid's motivation is ridiculous no matter which way you slice it.

How many time do the reapers have to say harvests life  to be reamde to reaper for people to get that they are havesting life to make reapers.

Yes they make reapers... which are synthetics made from organic slushie. No matter how you look at it, they are killing organics, to make synthetics, so that organics dont get killed by synthetics. Its mind boggling how stupid that is.

Project Overlord was also not the technological singularity. Project Overlord was a botched attempt at bringing the geth under Cerberus control, because, as ME3 reveals, The Illusive Man has been indoctrinated for a long time, and hid behind political pretty words and used Shepard to advance his goal of human dominance through reaper control.

Not to mention, that all this is simply a strawman argument, to the real problem of for the first time ever in the series, Shepard not calling them on this bull****.

[MPSai]

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

It's mostly to stop organic for killing themselves off with there tech....It almost happen with project overlord.

That's still preventing organic life from being killed off by that tech by killing off organic life with different tech. Starkid's motivation is ridiculous no matter which way you slice it.

How many time do the reapers have to say harvests life  to be reamde to reaper for people to get that they are havesting life to make reapers.

That seemed to be their motivation in ME2, but then Starkid comes along and says they remake organic life into Reapers to preserve it because organics will all eventually be killed by their synthetic creations. And Reapers, big synthetics, still need to kill organics to make a new Reaper. 

[dreman9999]

AlexXIV wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

It's mostly to stop organic for killing themselves off with there tech....It almost happen with project overlord.

How did Overlord almost destroy galactic civilisation ... also a human was in charge, even if authistic.

Far as I know Overlord aimed to control synthetics and almost worked.

Your kidding...That was the point of the entire mission. David archer tried to use his brother as a conduit to control the geth, but it when wrong and his brother went mad. He made all the tech go crazy, all the machs kill off everyone, and nealy up loaded him self to the extranet where he would do the same thing, make all machine go crazy. The first mission was to stop his up load. The next missions where to unlock the main base. And the last misson  was to shutdown the project...During the final fight, the guy nearly up loads himself to the normady to use it's communiation devise to upload to the extranet.
That mission nearly was the uprising of all synthetic  the reapers were  taking about.

[dreman9999]

MPSai wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

It's mostly to stop organic for killing themselves off with there tech....It almost happen with project overlord.

That's still preventing organic life from being killed off by that tech by killing off organic life with different tech. Starkid's motivation is ridiculous no matter which way you slice it.

How many time do the reapers have to say harvests life  to be reamde to reaper for people to get that they are havesting life to make reapers.

That seemed to be their motivation in ME2, but then Starkid comes along and says they remake organic life into Reapers to preserve it because organics will all eventually be killed by their synthetic creations. And Reapers, big synthetics, still need to kill organics to make a new Reaper. 

That's the same thing as what is happening in ME2....We just didn't know why then...Heck, harbinger was say that they were ascending organics through out  ME2.
http://www.youtube.c...dcVYTjRw#t=237s
http://www.youtube.c...dcVYTjRw#t=150s

[SoraStrife]

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

MPSai wrote...

If it was just its solution to the chaos that is organic life/evolution that would be one thing, but it's specifically to preserve organic life to keep it from being killed by synthetics, even though it's preserving organic life by killing it with synthetics.

It's mostly to stop organic for killing themselves off with there tech....It almost happen with project overlord.

That's still preventing organic life from being killed off by that tech by killing off organic life with different tech. Starkid's motivation is ridiculous no matter which way you slice it.

How many time do the reapers have to say harvests life  to be reamde to reaper for people to get that they are havesting life to make reapers.

That seemed to be their motivation in ME2, but then Starkid comes along and says they remake organic life into Reapers to preserve it because organics will all eventually be killed by their synthetic creations. And Reapers, big synthetics, still need to kill organics to make a new Reaper. 

That's the same thing as what is happening in ME2....We just didn't know why then...Heck, harbinger was say that they were ascending organics through out  ME2.
http://www.youtube.c...dcVYTjRw#t=237s
http://www.youtube.c...dcVYTjRw#t=150s

I hardly call blending them in to a fine paste to make reaper parts "ascension"