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[jableskage]

Crispy8181 wrote...

Sometimes I would almost be willing to pay money in order for someone like the op to allow me to spend 10 minutes with his system on my bench and then for me to be able to see the look on his face once I begin to diagnose all the problems with it.

Life is a long journey. The op has not learned much of it yet. Keep studying computer technology and learn from these experiences.

Either that or just keep on raging here on these forums. Whichever.

way to provide help dip****

[B33ker]

So is there some list somewhere of the exact problems the OP is having that could actually be diagnosed by those of us here, or is he just ****ing to ****? (Which is what his original post sounds like to me).



Many people have gotten things working fine after making some changes, or not installing things like the toolkit (which seemed to do more harm than good for a lot of folks).

[Crispy8181]

jableskage wrote...
way to provide help dip****

Now that's not very nice.  I see your contributions in this thread don't amount to a whole lot.

See, if the op takes my suggestions to heart, that's the most help anyone could possible provide.

If in doubt, re-read this entire thread.  There's not much anyone can do for a person who does not want to learn.

[Apex Sammoth]

Crispy8181 wrote...

jableskage wrote...
way to provide help dip****

Now that's not very nice.  I see your contributions in this thread don't amount to a whole lot.

See, if the op takes my suggestions to heart, that's the most help anyone could possible provide.

If in doubt, re-read this entire thread.  There's not much anyone can do for a person who does not want to learn.

And if you read my actually posts leading to this witch you did not. I have ran all my tests with my hardware software etc. I am reallly getting sick of people defending this buggy game. Esp  when Bioware has Already Adressed the issues with CTD, %100 Processor issues, Memory Leaks. The Problem is with people like you have to stick your 2 cents in because you think you are better then everyone else. Arrogant Much ? So that makes you out to be an **** because that is what you are doing. Yes I posted a Rant and you also did not have to read or Respond to it .

[Apex Sammoth]

B33ker wrote...

So is there some list somewhere of the exact problems the OP is having that could actually be diagnosed by those of us here, or is he just ****ing to ****? (Which is what his original post sounds like to me).

Many people have gotten things working fine after making some changes, or not installing things like the toolkit (which seemed to do more harm than good for a lot of folks).

Already listed my problems on another post. This Post was just a Rant hence again you did not have to Respond either. Like I said before these issues have no work around you have to wait on the patch.

[Apex Sammoth]

Crispy8181 wrote...

jableskage wrote...
way to provide help dip****

Now that's not very nice.  I see your contributions in this thread don't amount to a whole lot.

See, if the op takes my suggestions to heart, that's the most help anyone could possible provide.

If in doubt, re-read this entire thread.  There's not much anyone can do for a person who does not want to learn.

Thats not Advice thats being an ****.

[Dex1701]

Again, you do realize that every game (and I do mean every game) has issues with some systems when it's released, and every game forum has people like you posting threads like this.  DA:O's release is no different.  There are thousands of people playing the game with no problems, but there are a few having problems that think that means the game is garbage.  The funny part is that you accuse people that are trying to think rationally about the situation of being arrogant, when in reality you are the one that is seeing yourself as the center of the universe.

Apex Sammoth wrote...
Already listed my
problems on another post. This Post was just a Rant hence again you did
not have to Respond either. Like I said before these issues have no
work around you have to wait on the patch.

Ok, now I am going to start being an *** for real...mostly because it amuses me. 

Translation:
I realize that all PC games have issues with a certain percentage of users' systems upon release because I understand how game development works.  In the past I have been lucky enough to not fall into that cross-section of users, but this time I did.  I couldn't care less about the people that had problems with other games that I didn't have problems with, but I'm special and pouty, so I'm going to start a thread for everyone to listen to me cry about it.  Don't try to point out why this is silly, though, or else you're arrogant.  This thread is reserved for my personal pity party, and you are not invited.  Thank you.

[Apex Sammoth]

Dex1701 wrote...

Again, you do realize that every game (and I do mean every game) has issues with some systems when it's released, and every game forum has people like you posting threads like this.  DA:O's release is no different.  There are thousands of people playing the game with no problems, but there are a few having problems that think that means the game is garbage.  The funny part is that you accuse people that are trying to think rationally about the situation of being arrogant, when in reality you are the one that is seeing yourself as the center of the universe.

Apex Sammoth wrote...
Already listed my
problems on another post. This Post was just a Rant hence again you did
not have to Respond either. Like I said before these issues have no
work around you have to wait on the patch.

Ok, now I am going to start being an *** for real...mostly because it amuses me. 

Translation:
I realize that all PC games have issues with a certain percentage of users' systems upon release because I understand how game development works.  In the past I have been lucky enough to not fall into that cross-section of users, but this time I did.  I couldn't care less about the people that had problems with other games that I didn't have problems with, but I'm special and pouty, so I'm going to start a thread for everyone to listen to me cry about it.  Don't try to point out why this is silly, though, or else you're arrogant.  This thread is reserved for my personal pity party, and you are not invited.  Thank you.

Yet you still go on about why you see something wrong with my Opinion and Rant. Yet you defend the people who you keep dishing your money out too. That's ok next time you buy something and are not  satisfied with it. You will think back to this thread again . "Hope you Enjoy Your Fly In Your Soup" I did rant and I do believe I have a right to. The Message was to Bioware and others that have the same view not you. Keep in mind with your arrogant point of view on this. You did not have to answer this thread nor Read it if you thought it was just that. So Keep On with your Trolling ways Jack &$&^.

[Dex1701]

Apex Sammoth wrote...

Dex1701 wrote...

Again, you do realize that every game (and I do mean every game) has issues with some systems when it's released, and every game forum has people like you posting threads like this.  DA:O's release is no different.  There are thousands of people playing the game with no problems, but there are a few having problems that think that means the game is garbage.  The funny part is that you accuse people that are trying to think rationally about the situation of being arrogant, when in reality you are the one that is seeing yourself as the center of the universe.

Apex Sammoth wrote...
Already listed my
problems on another post. This Post was just a Rant hence again you did
not have to Respond either. Like I said before these issues have no
work around you have to wait on the patch.

Ok, now I am going to start being an *** for real...mostly because it amuses me. 

Translation:
I realize that all PC games have issues with a certain percentage of users' systems upon release because I understand how game development works.  In the past I have been lucky enough to not fall into that cross-section of users, but this time I did.  I couldn't care less about the people that had problems with other games that I didn't have problems with, but I'm special and pouty, so I'm going to start a thread for everyone to listen to me cry about it.  Don't try to point out why this is silly, though, or else you're arrogant.  This thread is reserved for my personal pity party, and you are not invited.  Thank you.

Yet you still go on about why you see something wrong with my Opinion and Rant. Yet you defend the people who you keep dishing your money out too. That's ok next time you buy something and are not  satisfied with it. You will think back to this thread again . "Hope you Enjoy Your Fly In Your Soup" I did rant and I do believe I have a right to. The Message was to Bioware and others that have the same view not you. Keep in mind with your arrogant point of view on this. You did not have to answer this thread nor Read it if you thought it was just that. So Keep On with your Trolling ways Jack &$&^.

That's a good analogy, actually.  If I get a bowl of soup with a fly in it I'm not going to sit there and complain about the fly.  I'm going to calmly and politely ask the server for a new bowl of soup (i.e., presenting the problem in an intelligent way and requesting a fix).  I could raise hell about the fly, insult the chef, and talk about how irresponsible it was for the restaurant to allow the fly to get there, but that's not going to gain me any sympathy from my fellow restaurant patrons.  They didn't have flies in their soup.  I'm sure that if you were in a restaurant you liked and someone found a fly in their soup and proceeded to go off on a tirade/tantrum about finding the fly you'd probably roll your eyes and go on with your meal thinking, "what the heck is that guy's problem?"

I'll have to wait for the new bowl of soup, yes, and despite the fact that I am hungry and my friends at my table have received and are enjoying their food, I have little choice but to wait calmly or wait angrily.  The restaurant didn't put the fly in my soup, and there was no way for the restaurant to guarantee that nobody would ever get a fly in their soup...it's just something that happens sometimes.  If you choose to never go to that restaurant again because you got unlucky that's fine, but don't stand outside the restaurant telling other patrons that the restaurant is serving flies to everyone just because you got one by accident.

Now, if the restaurant refused to remedy the situation, or if "Minestrone" was actually code for "Fly Soup" at this particular establishment it would be fully reasonable for me to be irate.  If it was just an accident, however, raising a huge stink about the situation would be, in my opinion, immature and simply poor etiquette.

So, you can go ahead and call me names, insult me, imply that I'm being arrogant, etc., but that doesn't change the fact that you're probably overreacting to the situation.

Modifié par Dex1701, 04 décembre 2009 - 11:51 .

[Apex Sammoth]

Dex1701 wrote...

Apex Sammoth wrote...

Dex1701 wrote...

Again, you do realize that every game (and I do mean every game) has issues with some systems when it's released, and every game forum has people like you posting threads like this.  DA:O's release is no different.  There are thousands of people playing the game with no problems, but there are a few having problems that think that means the game is garbage.  The funny part is that you accuse people that are trying to think rationally about the situation of being arrogant, when in reality you are the one that is seeing yourself as the center of the universe.

Apex Sammoth wrote...
Already listed my
problems on another post. This Post was just a Rant hence again you did
not have to Respond either. Like I said before these issues have no
work around you have to wait on the patch.

Ok, now I am going to start being an *** for real...mostly because it amuses me. 

Translation:
I realize that all PC games have issues with a certain percentage of users' systems upon release because I understand how game development works.  In the past I have been lucky enough to not fall into that cross-section of users, but this time I did.  I couldn't care less about the people that had problems with other games that I didn't have problems with, but I'm special and pouty, so I'm going to start a thread for everyone to listen to me cry about it.  Don't try to point out why this is silly, though, or else you're arrogant.  This thread is reserved for my personal pity party, and you are not invited.  Thank you.

Yet you still go on about why you see something wrong with my Opinion and Rant. Yet you defend the people who you keep dishing your money out too. That's ok next time you buy something and are not  satisfied with it. You will think back to this thread again . "Hope you Enjoy Your Fly In Your Soup" I did rant and I do believe I have a right to. The Message was to Bioware and others that have the same view not you. Keep in mind with your arrogant point of view on this. You did not have to answer this thread nor Read it if you thought it was just that. So Keep On with your Trolling ways Jack &$&^.

That's a good analogy, actually.  If I get a bowl of soup with a fly in it I'm not going to sit there and complain about the fly.  I'm going to calmly and politely ask the server for a new bowl of soup (i.e., presenting the problem in an intelligent way and requesting a fix).  I could raise hell about the fly, insult the chef, and talk about how irresponsible it was for the restaurant to allow the fly to get there, but that's not going to gain me any sympathy from my fellow restaurant patrons.  They didn't have flies in their soup.  I'm sure that if you were in a restaurant you liked and someone found a fly in their soup and proceeded to go off on a tirade/tantrum about finding the fly you'd probably roll your eyes and go on with your meal thinking, "what the heck is that guy's problem?"

I'll have to wait for the new bowl of soup, yes, and despite the fact that I am hungry and my friends at my table have received and are enjoying their food, I have little choice but to wait calmly or wait angrily.  The restaurant didn't put the fly in my soup, and there was no way for the restaurant to guarantee that nobody would ever get a fly in their soup...it's just something that happens sometimes.  If you choose to never go to that restaurant again because you got unlucky that's fine, but don't stand outside the restaurant telling other patrons that the restaurant is serving flies to everyone just because you got one by accident.

Now, if the restaurant refused to remedy the situation, or if "Minestrone" was actually code for "Fly Soup" at this particular establishment it would be fully reasonable for me to be irate.  If it was just an accident, however, raising a huge stink about the situation would be, in my opinion, immature and simply poor etiquette.

So, you can go ahead and call me names, insult me, imply that I'm being arrogant, etc., but that doesn't change the fact that you're probably  overreacting to the situation.

No I am overreacting to the people who keep saying it could be my stuff. I have more problems with people like you who sit there defending these companies in the way they handle things. Maybe you should you read that I said have to wait on a Patch like others on this board.  It was aslo an Opinion on how I felt about the Porr Release job they did with this game. Do I have to accept that ? Yes unfortunately seeming because people like you seem to think its "OK" to support games like these. Also when we as consumers continue to say it ok for companies to put out games with bugs like these that its ok "that’s just the way it is". They will continue to do 1/2 ass jobs on the release of there products. The Soup Reference was not suppose to be taken literally but, I guess you have an answer for everything because the fly in the soup could be something simple as have your electricity turned off for a month yet your still paying for it because you have too. "Hey I guess that’s just the way it is". Maybe when you have Surgery and you die / have a mjor problem making you disabled for life from it because the surgeon made a mistake "I guess thats Ok Too" I am sure they will find a patch for that too. Yet you still have to pay for your Insurance.

Modifié par Apex Sammoth, 05 décembre 2009 - 12:59 .

[JironGhrad]

Wow, the OP sure does have a lot of angst. I'm quite pleased with supporting EA/Bioware. Why? I've been able to install and play Dragon Age on 4 systems now. None of them have had any of the issues that have come up on the forums here. Two of them technically don't even meet the minimum CPU requirements. (2.8 and 3.2 Pentium 4s with hyper-threading.) And I've installed it on 4 different OS's (XP Home and Pro 32-bit, Vista Home Premium SP2 64-bit, and Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium). Based on the laws of probability, if there were all these massive problems with the game, I should have gotten them on 3 of the 4 machines. But I've run it on all 4 with no issues of any kind on any of the systems. Coincidence? Probably not.

[Dex1701]

Apex Sammoth wrote...
The Soup Reference was not suppose to be taken literally but,

Analogy does not mean "taken literally."  Quite the opposite, actually.

Apex Sammoth wrote...
I guess you have an answer for everything

No, I don't, but I do have a lot of PC gaming experience (roughly 25 years), a good amount of technical expertise, and I know how to compose a relevant argument.

Apex Sammoth wrote...
because the fly in the soup could be something simple as have your electricity turned off for a month yet your still paying for it because you have too.

Actually, you don't, but those aren't really similar situations, are they?

Apex Sammoth wrote...
"Hey I guess that’s just the way it is". Maybe when you have Surgery and you die / have a mjor problem making you disabled for life from it because the surgeon made a mistake "I guess thats Ok Too" I am sure they will find a patch for that too. Yet you still have to pay for your Insurance.

That actually happens all the time, and the insurance company is in no way responsible for the quality of care you receive from a doctor.  If you'd like to sue Bioware for malpractice I'd recommend getting a very, VERY good attorney.

Yeah, sorry.  You simply have no idea what you're talking about, and you're not making arguments to support your position...at all.  You're just repeating your assertion that it's possible to release PC games in the current technical climate of the PC world without some people having a problem with them, and that just isn't true, and Dragon Age isn't any more buggy than any other major PC RPG release in recent memory.  So, enjoy your unnecessary stress.  Take care.

Modifié par Dex1701, 05 décembre 2009 - 01:43 .

[Apex Sammoth]

No, I don't, but I do have a lot of PC gaming experience (roughly 25 years), a good amount of technical expertise, and I know how to compose a relevant argument.

Yep 25 Years Makes you and Expert. Troll On. How do you know how long I have been playing? Seriously the time you have been playing and around games has no Proof that makes you more Knowledgeable then anyone else that has played or been around gaming. Arrogant Much?



Have A Nice Day

[Dex1701]

Apex Sammoth wrote...

No, I don't, but I do have a lot of PC gaming experience (roughly 25 years), a good amount of technical expertise, and I know how to compose a relevant argument.

Yep 25 Years Makes you and Expert.

Never said that, but it does say that I've experienced a lot of game releases.

Apex Sammoth wrote...
Troll On.

Right.  I disagree with you so I must be a troll.

Apex Sammoth wrote...
How do you know how long I have been playing?

I don't, and I never implied that I did.  Just saying that I've played a lot of PC games and I've seen a lot of releases.

Apex Sammoth wrote...
Seriously the time you have been playing and around games has no Proof that makes you more Knowledgeable then anyone else that has played or been around gaming. Arrogant Much?
Have A Nice Day

The fact that I'm making relevant arguments and you're not doesn't make me arrogant.   In fact, I'm far from being an arrogant person.  I'm just pointing out the flaws in your statement.

The fact that you think that any PC game in history has EVER been released without a decent percentage of people that bought the game having problems...especially nowadays when there's a lot more variety in hardware and software configurations...does show a very distinct lack of knowledge and experience on your part, though.  I don't mean that to be rude.  I'm not going out of my way to ruffle your feathers.

If I have a problem with a game I will generally make my problem known to the developer and wait for a patch (similar to sending back your soup in the fly analogy...I don't like it, but it happens sometimes).  I develop software myself and I know that it's almost impossible to find every bug with every configuration before release.  If the company knows about the problem and they fail to address it I'll think very carefully about ever buying another product from them.  Simple.  Again, I'm sincerely sorry that you're having a problem (it can be REALLY frustrating), but your reaction is unreasonable.

Modifié par Dex1701, 05 décembre 2009 - 02:21 .

[JironGhrad]

Apex Sammoth wrote...

No, I don't, but I do have a lot of PC gaming experience (roughly 25 years), a good amount of technical expertise, and I know how to compose a relevant argument.

Yep 25 Years Makes you and Expert. Troll On. How do you know how long I have been playing? Seriously the time you have been playing and around games has no Proof that makes you more Knowledgeable then anyone else that has played or been around gaming. Arrogant Much?

Have A Nice Day

I'll take the bait.  It's easy to identify someone's length of play experience by their handling of the situation. The fact that you (the OP) are sufficiently irrate to go and post at length with responses to all this clearly indicates that you've missed some of the downright horrible "Coasters of the Month" from history. Battlecruiser 3000 AD and Daikatana easily come to mind... and here's one for you.  Neverwinter Nights 2 (Obsidian's game) has had 2 full expansions and around a dozen patches.  I was able to create a script bug in the 1st sequence of the game that corrupted not only the autosave but all the other saves (two hours into the campaign) last month.  After they've been patching and releasing expansions and all sorts of things, there are still sequences where a script can fail to fire and the game will come to a grinding halt (and then destroy the other saved games too). 

Speaking with the confidence of experience is not arrogance and only someone without that same level of experience would suggest that it were otherwise.  And to further elaborate on that point: 25 years ago, not only did you often adjust your drivers but in many cases even the memory management and alter the OS's boot profile.  Play more than one game with the same configuration? Forget it...

[Apex Sammoth]

I'm not going out of my way to ruffle your feathers.

You could have fooled me your answering all my post with an Opinion of yours. I respect your opinion but, you have to Respect mine and that’s all there is to it. I still stand by what I said you say they didn't pick up these bugs in testing. Yet they still released it. All I am saying is they should of spent more time testing before they released it is all. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. Yes the game runs fine on my system until I get the %100 processor Issue or CTD, or Long Load times. These issues have been discussed on this board before and guess what I am not Imagining things because others have the same problem HUH how could that be I guess it's all our system configurations.

[Apex Sammoth]

JironGhrad wrote...

Apex Sammoth wrote...

No, I don't, but I do have a lot of PC gaming experience (roughly 25 years), a good amount of technical expertise, and I know how to compose a relevant argument.

Yep 25 Years Makes you and Expert. Troll On. How do you know how long I have been playing? Seriously the time you have been playing and around games has no Proof that makes you more Knowledgeable then anyone else that has played or been around gaming. Arrogant Much?

Have A Nice Day

I'll take the bait.  It's easy to identify someone's length of play experience by their handling of the situation. The fact that you (the OP) are sufficiently irrate to go and post at length with responses to all this clearly indicates that you've missed some of the downright horrible "Coasters of the Month" from history. Battlecruiser 3000 AD and Daikatana easily come to mind... and here's one for you.  Neverwinter Nights 2 (Obsidian's game) has had 2 full expansions and around a dozen patches.  I was able to create a script bug in the 1st sequence of the game that corrupted not only the autosave but all the other saves (two hours into the campaign) last month.  After they've been patching and releasing expansions and all sorts of things, there are still sequences where a script can fail to fire and the game will come to a grinding halt (and then destroy the other saved games too). 

Speaking with the confidence of experience is not arrogance and only someone without that same level of experience would suggest that it were otherwise.  And to further elaborate on that point: 25 years ago, not only did you often adjust your drivers but in many cases even the memory management and alter the OS's boot profile.  Play more than one game with the same configuration? Forget it...

Yep I guess you have Great Knowledge at Trolling Too. NEXT. I have dealt with my share of buggy games. 

[Dex1701]

Apex Sammoth wrote...

I'm not going out of my way to ruffle your feathers.

You could have fooled me your answering all my post with an Opinion of yours. I respect your opinion but, you have to Respect mine and that’s all there is to it. I still stand by what I said you say they didn't pick up these bugs in testing. Yet they still released it. All I am saying is they should of spent more time testing before they released it is all. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. Yes the game runs fine on my system until I get the %100 processor Issue or CTD, or Long Load times. These issues have been discussed on this board before and guess what I am not Imagining things because others have the same problem HUH how could that be I guess it's all our system configurations.

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion.  In my experience you're getting yourself all upset over something that's relatively commonplace and even normal, though.  I know it's frustrating to be unlucky and catch a bug, but no PC game release is going to be perfect until there are better standards for hardware, drivers, OS's, etc.  You're only going to shorten your lifespan by expecting perfection and getting upset when you don't get it.

[Somehing]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

I actually disagree with the OP on this.

I have been lurking on the tech support forums for a while now and while nothing on here is "official" - I have found that the Bioware staff (Moderators, Web Guys, Dev Team) all frequent these forums and do their best to answer questions and outstanding problems.
Or to collect data on them at least.

Its not official support but it is there.

The Official "Support" and I use the word support very very loosely, is done thru EA and done very very badly. The website claims "We will contact you about this issue within 24 hours", I sent them an email about the Oghren being missing bug about a week ago. Yet to recieve a reply.

Its rediculous and utterly pants.

Not to defend them or anything (I'm having problems and getting help from nowhere too), but this is stated quite clearly on the FAQs under "E-mail Response Time":

"QUESTION
How long will I have to wait until I get a response to my e-mail question?
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ANSWER

You can usually expect an answer to your question within 24 to 48 hours.
Dragon Age: Origins, however, has proved to be such a great game launch that our teams are currently experiencing a high number of e-mail contacts.
If you have submitted an e-mail, we ask that you please be patient. Our e-mail team is working hard to get through all questions as promptly as possible while trying to provide the best service to you.
If you are planning to send an e-mail, be aware that it might take a little longer than expected. To decrease wait time try to provide as much information as you can with your e-mail request"

On the off chance they are actually that piled under with requests (or massively understaffed) that they can't even reply within the same week, there's no telling how long it'll take (I think I read a post where someone hadn't got a reply after a month) for something useful to come up, so just chillax is all I'm saying, I suggest everyone who's getting too aggroed over this just give it some time for things to get better. Find something else to do for your own sake, otherwise your own impatience with such a slow moving motion is going to torment you. I'm fortunate in that my problem seems to be somewhat petty in comparison to most (inventory, char showing up in pieces if at all).

[Somehing]

Oop, looks like I posted in the middle of a cat fight, don't mind me..

[Mortiquendi]

ugh, playing dos games and working with the TSR's always sucked, and from haveing 25 years experience as a gamer ( starting with a tandy cartridge system and an atari than building my own pc's starting with a 286 processor ) Dex's arguements are very valid and unfortunatly apex you appear to be the coyote falling off a cliff holding up signs.



Even through major testing of rigs we can often miss one stupid small thing that later causes an issue (i hate power supplies and memory problems) for example testing one game than testing another does not give valid results due to there differing power usage of the system and the system resources that they use. For an example of this go to the Vanguard Saga of heroes forums and look at how many people say my computer runs fine with crysis but not with this (traditionally Vanguard uses a lot of processing power and puts a huge load on the graphics card ) so the issues that were creeping up was usually heat related and would start causing a catastrophic failure of the computer. Computer hardware is unfortunatly heat sensitive, over time excess heat ( if not vented adequitly) will degrade your computer much faster.than normal usage. and to eliviate this you need to make sure your computer is NEVER close to the floor and that you dust it out every 4-6 months with a can of air or two, to make sure that it doesn't produce static electricity and build up heat. ( computers love to attract dust )



But anyways, apex do us all a favor when you read responses walk away for a minute and collect your thoughts than come back and comment, you sound like your immediatly writing after a response and writing while fustrated and that makes it hard to make a coherent sentence that conveys what you want it to, and it also makes you sound less like a troll.

[Hurra_asbest]

chockobumster wrote...

Like a game of tennis, but I do not agree "I shold wait patiently for a patch to arrive" without comment.

I also paid for the game. If they wanted me to offer an advance on the fully functioning game while they were trying to get it to work, they should have said so. I'd have loaned them a few bucks and they could patiently wait for the rest before they fixed it.

I seem to have all the requisites for failure - a quad core, windows 7, etc. But I have plenty of system and it crashes my computer - turns it off - after about 5 minutes of play.  I was going well til the recent patch 1.1b and now it is not playable.

But I have paid my money.

I'm going to ignore all the rantiness going on in this thread, and try to point out some possible solutions to chockobuster instead.

If your PC turns itself off it usually means one of two things: It gets too warm, or the PSU is not providing enough power.

One likely cause is probably having too little power from the power supply (or that the PSU is faulty)
Even if your computer has no problem with other software, it may be that this game is more demanding, and makes the graphics card (usually the culprit) draw more power than usual.
- Solved by getting a better quality PSU. A good brand like OCZ or Coolermaster is the safest bet. Try getting 600W or more.

As for the second possible cause; there are several solutions to overheating:
- See if there's a lot of dust in your PC and gently remove it from components and fans.
If that doesn't work:
- Install extra cooling fans, or put your PC in a new case with better airflow.


As for the rantiness I promised to ignore: I believe there's little point in starting a thread in the tech forums purely to voice discontent. Try starting out with a reasonable post explaining the problem instead. In this thread the OP spent several posts before even mentioning any concrete problems - not helpful in the least. <_<

(edited for clarity)

Modifié par Hurra_asbest, 06 décembre 2009 - 09:34 .

[Apex Sammoth]

Mortiquendi wrote...

ugh, playing dos games and working with the TSR's always sucked, and from haveing 25 years experience as a gamer ( starting with a tandy cartridge system and an atari than building my own pc's starting with a 286 processor ) Dex's arguements are very valid and unfortunatly apex you appear to be the coyote falling off a cliff holding up signs.

Even through major testing of rigs we can often miss one stupid small thing that later causes an issue (i hate power supplies and memory problems) for example testing one game than testing another does not give valid results due to there differing power usage of the system and the system resources that they use. For an example of this go to the Vanguard Saga of heroes forums and look at how many people say my computer runs fine with crysis but not with this (traditionally Vanguard uses a lot of processing power and puts a huge load on the graphics card ) so the issues that were creeping up was usually heat related and would start causing a catastrophic failure of the computer. Computer hardware is unfortunatly heat sensitive, over time excess heat ( if not vented adequitly) will degrade your computer much faster.than normal usage. and to eliviate this you need to make sure your computer is NEVER close to the floor and that you dust it out every 4-6 months with a can of air or two, to make sure that it doesn't produce static electricity and build up heat. ( computers love to attract dust )

But anyways, apex do us all a favor when you read responses walk away for a minute and collect your thoughts than come back and comment, you sound like your immediatly writing after a response and writing while fustrated and that makes it hard to make a coherent sentence that conveys what you want it to, and it also makes you sound less like a troll.

 
Ok I took some time and walked away and yet still feel the same. What’s funny about your Post is you Assume that I don't know what I am talking about. Even better! That I have been playing/working on computer a lot less years then you and Dex. I have been through the 268 -386 eras. I even recall coding my own stupid games but, that is not the point of all this. Like I said above Maybe Bioware / EA should of spent more time/ resources on making sure this game works on more platforms AKA system configs then what they tested it on.  Seriously do you really think they did sufficient testing? I really don't think so. If they did then why are sooo many people having problems? Guess what I am no Math Major but, I could tell you its over 1000 posts on problems / bugs with this game. I will take into account that some might have issues on there side with drivers etc. but, it sure is not the majority. I do appreciate the community's help with work around and temp fixes is all great. As a consumer / gamer I don't think I should be spending my time scrolling through threads and looking stuff online to help my game work when it's not an issue caused by me. I can deal with petty bugs and even some bad ones but, Bioware get the game working as Advertised already.

[jableskage]

Apex Sammoth wrote...

Mortiquendi wrote...

ugh, playing dos games and working with the TSR's always sucked, and from haveing 25 years experience as a gamer ( starting with a tandy cartridge system and an atari than building my own pc's starting with a 286 processor ) Dex's arguements are very valid and unfortunatly apex you appear to be the coyote falling off a cliff holding up signs.

Even through major testing of rigs we can often miss one stupid small thing that later causes an issue (i hate power supplies and memory problems) for example testing one game than testing another does not give valid results due to there differing power usage of the system and the system resources that they use. For an example of this go to the Vanguard Saga of heroes forums and look at how many people say my computer runs fine with crysis but not with this (traditionally Vanguard uses a lot of processing power and puts a huge load on the graphics card ) so the issues that were creeping up was usually heat related and would start causing a catastrophic failure of the computer. Computer hardware is unfortunatly heat sensitive, over time excess heat ( if not vented adequitly) will degrade your computer much faster.than normal usage. and to eliviate this you need to make sure your computer is NEVER close to the floor and that you dust it out every 4-6 months with a can of air or two, to make sure that it doesn't produce static electricity and build up heat. ( computers love to attract dust )

But anyways, apex do us all a favor when you read responses walk away for a minute and collect your thoughts than come back and comment, you sound like your immediatly writing after a response and writing while fustrated and that makes it hard to make a coherent sentence that conveys what you want it to, and it also makes you sound less like a troll.

 
Ok I took some time and walked away and yet still feel the same. What’s funny about your Post is you Assume that I don't know what I am talking about. Even better! That I have been playing/working on computer a lot less years then you and Dex. I have been through the 268 -386 eras. I even recall coding my own stupid games but, that is not the point of all this. Like I said above Maybe Bioware / EA should of spent more time/ resources on making sure this game works on more platforms AKA system configs then what they tested it on.  Seriously do you really think they did sufficient testing? I really don't think so. If they did then why are sooo many people having problems? Guess what I am no Math Major but, I could tell you its over 1000 posts on problems / bugs with this game. I will take into account that some might have issues on there side with drivers etc. but, it sure is not the majority. I do appreciate the community's help with work around and temp fixes is all great. As a consumer / gamer I don't think I should be spending my time scrolling through threads and looking stuff online to help my game work when it's not an issue caused by me. I can deal with petty bugs and even some bad ones but, Bioware get the game working as Advertised already.

i am in total agreement, they cannot even get a simple forum to work... so a full blown game will be rocket science to them. sort it out EA/Bioware it is embarressing and i cannot even imagine the state of ME2 and SWTOR when they arrive...

[chockobumster]

Hurra_asbest wrote...

chockobumster wrote...

Like a game of tennis, but I do not agree "I shold wait patiently for a patch to arrive" without comment.

I also paid for the game. If they wanted me to offer an advance on the fully functioning game while they were trying to get it to work, they should have said so. I'd have loaned them a few bucks and they could patiently wait for the rest before they fixed it.

I seem to have all the requisites for failure - a quad core, windows 7, etc. But I have plenty of system and it crashes my computer - turns it off - after about 5 minutes of play.  I was going well til the recent patch 1.1b and now it is not playable.

But I have paid my money.

I'm going to ignore all the rantiness and try to point out some possible solutions to chockobuster instead.

If your PC turns itself off it usually means one of two things: It gets too warm, or the PSU is not providing enough power.

One likely cause is probably having too little power from the power supply (or that the PSU is faulty)
Even if your computer has no problem with other software, it may be that this game is more demanding, and makes the graphics card (usually the culprit) draw more power than usual.
- Solved by getting a better quality PSU. A good brand like OCZ or Coolermaster is the safest bet. Try getting 600W or more.

As for the second possible cause; there are several solutions to overheating:
- See if there's a lot of dust in your PC and gently remove it from components and fans.
If that doesn't work:
- Install extra cooling fans, or put your PC in a new case with better airflow.


As for the rantiness I promised to ignore: I believe there's little point in starting a thread in the tech forums purely to voice discontent. Try starting out with a reasonable post explaining the problem instead. In this thread the OP spent several posts before even mentioning any concrete problems - not helpful in the least. <_<

If you think that weas a rant, you need to get access to a websters, or suck your thumb a cople of hours extra every day.

But thanks.

Here's what I did pre your suggestions
I replaced my powersupply - up to 750 w, from 650. It seems my power wasn't an issue, but now I have a spare.

I replaced my boot drive - adding a 1T drive and baggin the other. I also reinstalled W 7 to the 64 bit to take advantage of the 8 gig of memory.

I also was able to finally get the content down, before I did the above.

So I am on track. I hope the game holds up. I do not think it is a Dragaon Age problem. Unfortunately I don't have the technical skill to really sort it out. But I have a wallet and  a deire to finish the game.

So thanks for your feedback. I am going to go the extra fan route as per your advice, but I have a big case with lots of airiness.