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What's the worst thing BioWare could do with DA III?


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#251
Vincent Laww

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I believe they should take their time developing the Dragon Age Story line, I sincerely hope they take their time formulating the rudimentary elements of the game. In addition, I'd prefer not to have a sub-standard story line, the premise of DA2 was essentially a subplot in DAO. Please implement a Darkspawn party member, and his/her spreading of the epidemic of the 'Taint', and how the party isolates said pestilience. King Maric has his potions, so perhaps there could some sort of similar propensity. Oh, and please back Shale in her short, stout, organic form :P.

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Takamori The Templar wrote...

Day 1 dlc.
Endless corridors
Bad writing
And not making decent porting.


This. :unsure:  Plus:

Buying Dragon Age 2 and 3/4,and receiving plot-critical content (Javik,Return To Ostagar,anyone?) as DLC.

EXCLUSIVELY teenage-fantasy romance options.I am 32,my husband is 49.Cutey boys are fine,but could there be more alternatives,especially for the ladies?Guys do get their variety of ladies both in ME and DA.We want them too.Pls.

Filler combat,absurd,irrelevant  fetch quests galore.

Storyline : Hero(es) join up to look for the Everlost Cake,that was promised.They find it.
Final Boss Fight : The Munchdemon  - give the cake or lie.

Actually,the munchdemon would be cute.Especially if Isolde showed up with Bann Teagan,and Isolde could ask :
"Who is djhis deMON Teaguuuhn".:pinched:

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Takamori The Templar wrote...

Day 1 dlc.
Endless corridors
Bad writing
And not making decent porting.


So basically completely ditch DA II utter failure as a whole...i can sign on that...only RPG game that i couldn't stomach to  play more then once in 20+ years of gaming.

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Another aimless story with a main character who's less important than his whiny follower.
More reused environments and small scope.

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Have a Revan/Exile explanation for my two previous mains...grrrr
Another walk in the Fade dream crap, damn how I hate going to the circle in DA just because of that
Take away my pointy end on my mage staff
Sandal disappears with the warden or something along those lines
Flemeth VA leaves...Flemeth no longer part of DA story

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Is it an issue against ALL Day 1 DLC, or is something like Shale/Stone Prisoner acceptable, and it's only the idea of something like From Ashes that really bothered people?

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Day 1 DLC that comes with all new copies is OK. It becomes irksome after that. (including if it only comes with a special edition which costs extra-- I was OK with the Signature Edition because it only cost me $53 to preorder. ME3's $80 edition, not so much)

That's just my opinion though, I don't have some grand moral objection to the practice. You can charge whatever for whatever, I'll buy it if I want to.

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- Turn it into a pre-teen FPS with scantily-clad babes and a romance that goes like a pubescent boy's fairy tale.
- Anime-fy DA. Noooooooooooo! If I want comics, I'd buy games from Marvel. I want a real fantasy that mature gamers can enjoy.
- Keep that dialog wheel. Arrrrgh!
- More mages *concealing* their talents by brandishing a honking big bayonet-staff around town. Maybe it's Halloween in Kirkwall year-round and those are plastic staves. Or, all templars have cataracts.

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Shale/Stone Prisoner was developed while DAO was being ported to consoles, so that was basically a gift. From Ashes was developed right alongside the main story of ME3 and was only free for people who shelled out an extra $20 for the N7 edition. That's not cool.

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

Is it an issue against ALL Day 1 DLC, or is something like Shale/Stone Prisoner acceptable, and it's only the idea of something like From Ashes that really bothered people?


Allan, Shale was a free content to everyone who bought the game, we saw that was a way to (sorry for the word) ****block the used game selling, I actually support it.
But the major issue is From Ashes divided the community between peasant edition and noble edition.
And was a slap in the face of those who bought the normal edition, it felt like : your money is not enough.
It was a unethical rip off against paying costumer, this just gave a "positive" image of piracy.

Like: You don' t pay for it, you get all content and don't need origin as DRM.

And if you are a paying costumer you received a DRM in your back and less content, how you expect to incentive paying costumer with that kind of atrocious policy?:huh:

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

Is it an issue against ALL Day 1 DLC, or is something like Shale/Stone Prisoner acceptable, and it's only the idea of something like From Ashes that really bothered people?

Everybody know that you send PS3/360 versions for certification and have quite some time after that do create day 1 content. It's just if it's story, main story content like Shale/From Ashes - it should be free. Stuff like weapons, pets etc. can be sold, and sold for a premium. It's about having to pay extra for the complete story.

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NO day one dlc..shale was fricking fine.but from ashes fiasco was unacceptable.not that i will be buying anything bioware related for a while (DA3 must turn out a very good game for me to buy it.And by that i mean 3A game not the shame da2 and Me3 were) day one paid dlc that is in fact in the game disc is pure thievery imo

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

Is it an issue against ALL Day 1 DLC, or is something like Shale/Stone Prisoner acceptable, and it's only the idea of something like From Ashes that really bothered people?


From Ashes, mostly. Javik`s dialogue,in my opinion,shed light on many things that would have remained obscure.For me,anyway. Return to Ostagar,similarly.  Stone Prisoner was great,it was funny,and Shale was epic.

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hobbit_of_the_shire wrote...

- Turn it into a pre-teen FPS with scantily-clad babes and a romance that goes like a pubescent boy's fairy tale.
- Anime-fy DA. Noooooooooooo! If I want comics, I'd buy games from Marvel. I want a real fantasy that mature gamers can enjoy.
- Keep that dialog wheel. Arrrrgh!
- More mages *concealing* their talents by brandishing a honking big bayonet-staff around town. Maybe it's Halloween in Kirkwall year-round and those are plastic staves. Or, all templars have cataracts.


This.Sorry,I just ROFLd so hard.Properly concealing ourselves would not be a bad idea...I always found it absurd in AC1 when Altair,who is hunted by-well,basically everyone who breathes-walks around wearing the same clothing as described in his "WANTED" poster.

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Oh and the entire...all mages not in the circle are evil thing...that's getting old..

Can I find a mage that isn't crazy for once.

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1. anime artstyle
2. spawning enemies
3. exploding enemies
4. over the top unrealistic combat
5. using the look of elves from DA2
6. Forced companions.
7. not being able to customize the companions. Its just so dumb to have Hawke carry around 50 good armours, and not being able to give one to a companion who is walking around in a shirt.
8. 1 weapon\\fighting style for companions. that bit was an utter failure in DA2. It ruins replayability too, because you are forced to use Aveline if you arn`t playing a tank yourself.

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VampOrchid wrote...

Oh and the entire...all mages not in the circle are evil thing...that's getting old..

Can I find a mage that isn't crazy for once.


Marethari , Anyala (Zathrian's apprentice in DAO) and Morrigan weren't crazy.
Merril neither, though she was too naive.

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

Is it an issue against ALL Day 1 DLC, or is something like Shale/Stone Prisoner acceptable, and it's only the idea of something like From Ashes that really bothered people?


Stone Prisoner was AWESOME. Solid, high-quality mission to get the character, and a fantastic character once obtained - laugh out loud funny on occasions, and with one of the best backstories of the entire game. And yet, if you don't install the DLC (or choose not to do the mission) you don't feel like you're missing out on any crucial story content. Plus the price was right, of course - no complaints from me about you guys trying to make some money back from otherwise profit-less second hand sales.

Basically, we paid for the game on day 1 - charging extra for something that very day just makes us feel like we're being taken advantage of. Does it work? I'm sure it does, but at what cost to loyalty, or subsequent DLC sales later on?

As for From Ashes... that DLC was ridiculous, for several reasons:

Story: I won't go into Mass Effect story details here, but it's plainly obvious that a Prothean squad member was going to be pretty important and integral to the concluding part of the Mass Effect trilogy, and thus should have been included as part of the core game experience! If James Vega had been the day 1 DLC character ("an otherwise anonymous Alliance marine whose background in the triolgy is non-existent"), this complaint wouldn't have existed.

Quality: Not something that anyone could have known before purchasing the DLC, but frankly From Ashes was *rubbish*. It offered half an hour of content, maybe, and a character that I certainly could have lived without. If you're going to charge for something *at all* the quality needs to be high, on day 1 this is ten times more important. Again, this complaint wouldn't exist if the DLC had added a longer or more interesting mission (think Lair of the SB).

"Cut" Content: It became obvious after the release of ME3 that at least part of the From Ashes content (the character itself if not the associated mission) was actually on the game disc itself. Now, I am well aware that this character probably didn't work as intended without the From Ashes download, and obviously some amount of disc-based content for day 1 DLC is likely to be possible, but this really did make the suckers who paid for it feel pretty crap. This complain wouldn't exist if the DLC had been free!

Modifié par AlexJK, 13 avril 2012 - 02:15 .


#269
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I have a serious disliking for those templar/chantry choirboy hypocrites, i would not like the game to be centred around them. You could make the protagonist be the child with the soul of the old gods and let us conquer the golden city or something like that instead. Even fighting darkspawn again seems more apealing then making the chantry mage thing the centre of the story.

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Feirefiz1972 wrote...

I have a serious disliking for those templar/chantry choirboy hypocrites, i would not like the game to be centred around them. You could make the protagonist be the child with the soul of the old gods and let us conquer the golden city or something like that instead. Even fighting darkspawn again seems more apealing then making the chantry mage thing the centre of the story.


In your opinion. I prefer to see more of the templar-mage war than another Blight.
And while I'm not completely against the idea of playing as the little Urthemiel, a lot of people will be pissed of if they decide to make him/her canon.

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I think David Gaider said in the PAX questions thread that,among other things,the OGB will NOT be the protagonist.Although what they say now and what will end up in the game are different things...at least I hope so:)Not specifically the OGB thing,I just was not very happy with the ideas presented at PAX,and hope that the end product will be an amazing surprise.:?
Storywise,I guess I would love if all the problems lurking under the surface blew up in our face...
Imagine the epic ****storm : both remaining Archdemons awake before their time;we could finally learn more about the blights,dark city and the taint (Avernus,Architect,cure,anyone?:),which could tie in with a trip to Tevinter; OGB/ Morrigan/ Flemeth; Chantry vs. Templars;Orlesian civil war,Maric/Loghain in Orlais; Bella Antiiivaaaa :) And teleports.We definitely need teleports,if we have no mounts...:bandit:

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

Is it an issue against ALL Day 1 DLC, or is something like Shale/Stone Prisoner acceptable, and it's only the idea of something like From Ashes that really bothered people?


The Shale DLC was perfectly acceptable because you got it with the game free. CE (or whatever) or not.

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Any multiplayer at all - it just takes time out of development and I don't see why every game of any genre nowadays has to have multiplayer (perhaps I'm just the stereotypical socially awkward gamer)

NOT including OGB - his potential existence was one of the more interesting things about DA

NOT mentioning Flemeth's origins/ identity - She awesome and I just need to know more about her (is that really so bad?)

Restricting to Companions to certain roles within a group, that is to say, I don't want Anders to have exclusive access to a specialized healing tree and Merril being a lackluster healer at best because she only has access to 'Heal'

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Keep the ugly elves from DA2.

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Cause I mainly focus on the story, I hope the following doesn't happen with DA3:

An open ending: I would really like to see a beginning, a middle and an end, so I can be satisfied with my choices made during my playthrough

Character interaction / story trying to be too sarcastis/funny. I felt it wasnt very balanced.. Okay, I dont have a strong argumentation for this one, mainly cause I havent played DA2 for a while, but this was something I felt a couple of times during my playthroughs... MotA made this worse...

Edit:
When Morrigan and/or Flemeth appear again, making them some kind of marketing gimmick. When Flemeth spoke about Hawke in the Destiny trailer, and playing the demo, I thought Flemeth would have a big role in DA2.. It was really a shame that didnt happen!!<_<

Modifié par JerHopp, 13 avril 2012 - 11:40 .