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[Rabid Rooster]

Arppis wrote...

Worst thing would be making the game uninteresting, if the plot sucked, characters sucked, the adventures sucked and the combat sucked. Total failure. That's worst possible thing.

So basically if they just made DA 3 just like DA 2?

[Ibn_Shisha]

Including MP with the game instead of as a separate game. And, if it is included, having it impact SP in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. Especially if previously announcing it would not affect your ability to see all possible ending choices/information.

[Nefla]

Worst things in my opinion would be

-More recycled areas (DA2)
-Less dialogue/fewer dialogue options (ME3)
-Pointless fetch quests (DA2, ME3) you get some money or an intangible war asset, but they are not fun to do AT ALL, they are a complete chore and waste of time.
-More anime/ JRPG direction (ninja pretty boy Kai Leng, DA2 animu elves, ME3 endings)
-No variety in endings (DA2, ME3) There should at least be two distinct ones such as good or evil (KotOR, Jade Empire) sad or happy (DA:O, ME2) etc...
-Choices don't have much/ any effect on the game

[xScarecrowX]

Well, a lot of things, OP. Most of the big things are covered on this thread already. 
The worst thing they can do is make our choices from both games in the series not matter and boil the end down to three color choices that are the same cut scene.
For some reason though, two fears keep popping into my head.
1) That they will say that they are going in a "new direction" and stick too closely to DA2, flaws and all. In this fear, they would completely ignore DAO.
2) That they will do the opposite of fear 1 and write off DA2 as a complete failure. With this they would ignore DA2.

Both games had positives and negatives (One game having more, but that doesn't matter) I would hate for either game to be written off. Even if some thought DA2 was a bust, it's done. That story is part of the DA lore. Both games have to matter. Make me remember the great and terrible times with the Warden and Hawke (Story wise) I want to remember the heartbreaking moments and see how they play out in DA3. Then, I want to be able to move on, to not want to go "Man, I wish I was playing my Warden/Hawke!"

Yes, gameplay, customizing my party's armor, and everything else is important, but I am a story kind of girl. I want to go "Awwww" when there is a scene with my RI and cry when a character I care about dies and get mad when a templar is on the screen (Stupid templars )

Wow, I just went on a rant...Hope I didn't get to far from the topic!

[jackofalltrades456]

The worst for me would be...

-Being trapped in a single location for 10 years.
-The Templar/Mage War being the only plotline.
-A non-controllable voiced Warden cameo.
-Disregarding past romances.
-Paratrooper enemies
- Limited companion dialogue and bland romances.
- The return of the D2 persuasion system
- Only getting a single Origin. ( I want to be a dwarf again!)
-No text epilogue at the end

[PlumPaul93]

if they made DA 3 just like DA 2

This.

[Kangaxx628]

Failure to bring back the arcane warrior spec due to some lame we can't write a good reason for it's return, but here's the force mage. Failure to use the old god baby, hey do you know how Riordan spent his last night on Thedas?

[yetiawesome]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Is it an issue against ALL Day 1 DLC, or is something like Shale/Stone Prisoner acceptable, and it's only the idea of something like From Ashes that really bothered people?

I think there is a line between DLC I want to buy and DLC I feel I am forced to buy. Shale was fine, IMHO as it allowed you to get some cash out of used games as well as not being essentianl IMHO. Look Shale helped explain what being a golem was like but I nver thought that was essential to the story.

With Javik for instance, it felt like really essential story elements were taken out of our hands and we were being forced to pay for them. And I am not a fan of this as I feel nickled and dimmed.

Sebastain on the other hand was fine, it was good to have a more pro chantry character but I don't feel that by not having him the game experience has been massively compromised, i.e you aren't forced into reading a wiki to understand some essential background.

Ultimately it's something your marketing department probably knows the most about but it is a general human trait that we prefer to feel persuaded into buying a product then forced. 

[Joy Divison]

Considering DA2 and ME3, I'm pretty sure that Bioware will somehow top what I can imagine is the worst thing possible.

[AngryFrozenWater]

The worst thing they could do is promise that your decisions will matter in DA3. Oh! Wait...

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 19 avril 2012 - 04:15 .

[Matchy Pointy]

Make the OGB the main story in the game.

[Arppis]

Rabid Rooster wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Worst thing would be making the game uninteresting, if the plot sucked, characters sucked, the adventures sucked and the combat sucked. Total failure. That's worst possible thing.

So basically if they just made DA 3 just like DA 2?

No, the plot of DA2 was interesting, I also liked the Kirkwall city (wish it was bigger). Characters were pretty good, they were well written. I didn't like the combat of Origins and DA2 (they are pretty much the same), they could impove on that. There were good things in DA2.

Modifié par Arppis, 19 avril 2012 - 06:50 .

[Marko GW]

Make it an MMO or any kind of multiplayer attached to this game would be the worst thing to happen to DA.

Also, disregarding important decisions made by the Warden or Hawke in the past games.

There are a lot of things that they can and will screw up in DA3, can't please everybody I know that. But these two I mentioned would totally destroy the franchise.

[ZeshinX]

Multiplayer. I'll vote with my wallet on this one. Multiplayer = no sale of DA3 for me.

[MingWolf]

jackofalltrades456 wrote...

The worst for me would be...

-Being trapped in a single location for 10 years.
-The Templar/Mage War being the only plotline.
-A non-controllable voiced Warden cameo.
-Disregarding past romances.
-Paratrooper enemies
- Limited companion dialogue and bland romances.
- The return of the D2 persuasion system
- Only getting a single Origin. ( I want to be a dwarf again!)
-No text epilogue at the end

Hmm, good points there.

I think perhaps the major turnoff for me would be the Templar/Mage War thing.  In a way, I don't want it being a part of the plot at all.

[Sylvanpyxie]

They could continue to contradict their written lore for Thedas.

Cardinal Rules of Magic:

No Teleporting.
No Resurrections of the Dead.
No Physical Manifestions of One's Body in the Fade.

GG Bioware, two down.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 19 avril 2012 - 10:38 .

[Maria Caliban]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

They could continue to contradict their written lore for Thedas.

Cardinal Rules of Magic:

No Teleporting.
No Resurrections of the Dead.
No Physical Manifestions of One's Body in the Fade.

GG Bioware, two down.

They should make up new rules just to contradict them.

[AnImpossibleGirl]

Not make it. That would be the worst. Everything else seems trivial to me.

[21121313]

Listen to people who use the terms WRPG and JRPG because they don't understand what RPGs are about.

Erm, i'd also add not make it as well. There will always be a vocal minority who hops on forums to spout about what they hated in any game and make it look like everybody else hated it, too. We saw that with the ME3 ending.

Modifié par 21121313, 20 avril 2012 - 01:22 .

[Meris]

21121313 wrote...

Listen to people who use the terms WRPG and JRPG because they don't understand what RPGs are about.

That's a bold claim. If you don't mind enlightening them all about the different philosophies, storytelling techniques, aesthetics, traditions, histories, focus of each and then give us examples of both typical and atypical W and J RPGs.

21121313 wrote...

Erm, i'd also add not make it as well. There will always be a vocal minority who hops on forums to spout about what they hated in any game and make it look like everybody else hated it, too. We saw that with the ME3 ending.

 

What I find curious is that all dissent is by a 'extreme minority'. What evidence do we have that the ME3 ending debacle which, according to EA/BioWare was the largest reaction towards a video game ending in the History of video games, was perpetrated by a minority?