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[Rafe34]

Direwolf0294 wrote...

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I would have liked to know more about his motivation. Was he indoctrinated, or just a jerk?

I'd like an answer to that too.

Speculations for everyone!

Seriously, though, I would kinda like to know, too.

And then TIM is like, "Udina is expendable."

Um, yeah, because having a member of the most powerful galactic body on YOUR side is perfectly expendable....

[Excalibur5033]

I probably should have seen it coming, since they spent the first part of the game trying to make him into a reasonable authority figure.

[The Angry One]

Would've been nice for Udina to explain his motivations rather than go "RYRJHFDSJGS I H8 SHEPARD OUTTA MY WAY!"

[TrollDemon]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I would have liked to know more about his motivation. Was he indoctrinated, or just a jerk?

I think he was just desperate to help Earth. I imagine being the leader of a planet that's being ravaged and harvested by a race of Synthetic-Organic gods can cause said leader to go off the deep end.

I know I'd be pretty damn desperate to help Earth. Shame he ended the way he did, I was actually warming up to him in Mass Effect 3 even though I put Anderson on the Council.

[Corporate Dog]

A little disappointed. My Shepard was never in Udina's corner, but at the start of ME3, I was kinda thinking, "Alright, Udina. You and I don't see eye to eye, but we can overcome that for the sake of the galaxy."

Then they went and made him a sort of bland, obvious villain, as opposed to a jerkass politician who just doesn't appreciate the blunt manner in which Shepard conducts himself.

It did feel somewhat cathartic shooting him, though.

[Chernaya]

My Shepard's a paragon but she put a bullet in that jerk's skull. He's always been horrible, I was waiting for the moment he'd finally go fully rotten. >

[dgcatanisiri]

No, I'm not okay with it. I was aiming for his head, dammit! I could only kill him once, and I miss the target?

Though I do wish that Miss Shadow Broker had found some of his correspondence to explain his motivations - was he indoctrinated, power-hungry, desperate, duped, what?

[BloodClaw95]

byne wrote...

Direwolf0294 wrote...

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I would have liked to know more about his motivation. Was he indoctrinated, or just a jerk?

I'd like an answer to that too.

Udina had contacted Cerberus to coordinate what was intended to be a bloodless takeover of the Citadel, in which he would force the other councilors to grant him emergency powers so that he could command the Citadel Fleet. He would then direct the fleet to liberate his homeworld, Earth.


Its all in the codex

...remind me again why Udina was evil? I never liked him, but that plan works better than the crappy Crucible+Starchild jon.

[Mr.House]

I saw it coming. I always suspected he was Cerberus in ME2, put that with him being pro-human and a real pain in the ass, I enjoyed his ME3 arc and I enjoyed killing him, five years of waiting paid off.

[Dendio1]

Ash was all "im gonna regret this"
Shep was all "no you wont"
Udina was all "ahh crap the jigs up"

[Karrie788]

His death was very sudden!

I liked talking with him at the beginning of the game, for ONCE in the entire trilogy, he didn't appear like a total jerk. Then suddenly he turns into a traitor, just like that.

I don't mind him being indoctrinated or whatever, but it felt very sudden to me.

[ElCronan]

I loved it.

Turian Councillor: It was a good shot. You took him down clean.
Shepard: Sometimes you get lucky...

[Splinter Cell 108]

While I understand why he got shot, I think there should have been an option to arrest him and question him later on. I know a lot of people hated Udina and all but I think he should have lived.

[GBGriffin]

Actually, a question:

I read somewhere (sorry for the lack of a citation) that shooting Udina via Renegade Interrupt will net you some war assets. Is this true, and does letting your VS shoot Udina somehow affect that?

Not that it will be enough to get me to 4k ( >:| ), but I was wondering if anyone could comment.

[Hunter_Wolf]

Sad part was I actually thought the guy changed. He was more accepting of the council and the various other species on the Citadel in this game. Boy was I glad to get him out of the way.

[Zoo Keeper Zeke]

I thought it might be refreshing to see him become a more reasonable sort in the end despite his rather...challenging...personality. But he ultimately came to a predictable undignified end.

[K_Tabris]

It doesn't surprise me in the least. He was a snake the entire series, and that was also one of the best renegade interrupt in the entire game.

[Aaleel]

Enjoyed every minute of it. I was already upset that my decision in ME1 was ignored and he weaseled his way onto the council. So I had to correct the mistake myself and permanently.

[Dendio1]

Udina had just finished talking about all he was going to do to help the war effort. Then suddenly he decides to do the opposite

[Tovanus]

I felt like it was bad writing. Udina was written as an off-putting character, but the whole Cerberus plot and Udina's role in it felt absolutely shoehorned in. It struck me as if someone on the staff thought that players might like a chance to shoot Udina, so they did what they had to do to make that happen. The whole thing seemed very out of character. Not in an "indoctrination" type way, just in a poor writing type way.

Even having nominal control of the council wouldn't allow Udina to order around the Turians (who are ruled by the Primarch) or the Asari (who are a democracy) or the Salarians (who are led by their dalatresses). The Councilors have much more authority when their worlds aren't directly under attack to make decisions for their governments, or at least that's the sense you get from the games. Even in ME 3, Udina acknowledges that the best path to making things happen is by going directly to the planetary leaders, who hold the real decision-making power for their individual races.

For all the talk of how many characters deserved a better ending (which I agree with), I kind of think Udina - who got an actual end - also deserved a better ending.

[Mr.House]

Karrie788 wrote...

His death was very sudden!

I liked talking with him at the beginning of the game, for ONCE in the entire trilogy, he didn't appear like a total jerk. Then suddenly he turns into a traitor, just like that.

I don't mind him being indoctrinated or whatever, but it felt very sudden to me.

It's not very sudden. He's always been pro-human, always been frustrated with the Council, always playing dirty. Ever since the first game.

[aliengmr1]

It fell a bit flat there. I thought something else was going on then he all but admits it. Little weird. Not too bad though. Never liked Udina.

[Aaleel]

GBGriffin wrote...

Actually, a question:

I read somewhere (sorry for the lack of a citation) that shooting Udina via Renegade Interrupt will net you some war assets. Is this true, and does letting your VS shoot Udina somehow affect that?

Not that it will be enough to get me to 4k ( >:| ), but I was wondering if anyone could comment.

I saw no update in anything pertaining to the Citadel or Alliance, and I read them all lol.  People only look at what gains you war assets, and some people don't realize that some of your decisions actually cost you war assets.

[felipejiraya]

The asari councilor is a useless matriarch.

She had the power to stop Udina using biotics but no, she tried to stop him manually.

Glad I shot the bastard.

[Hudathan]

He was probably just desperate to help Earth and turned to Cerberus since he couldn't get the council to go along. Made sense to me.