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[antony1197]

GBGriffin wrote...

byne wrote...

Direwolf0294 wrote...

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I would have liked to know more about his motivation. Was he indoctrinated, or just a jerk?

I'd like an answer to that too.

Udina had contacted Cerberus to coordinate what was intended to be a bloodless takeover of the Citadel, in which he would force the other councilors to grant him emergency powers so that he could command the Citadel Fleet. He would then direct the fleet to liberate his homeworld, Earth.


Its all in the codex

To be fair, I would have liked to have seen it played it rather than just read about it. That's more "telling" than "showing", which I don't like.

After telling us emily wong died via twitter i can agree

[Raizo]

I liked it, it seemed in keeping with his character. I don't remember much about Udina from ME1 ( other than him locking down the Normandy and preventing Shepard and his crew from going to Ilos ) but the very first time I played ME2 I was doing so with a non-imported character and I was stuck with the default choices ( Council dead, Udina on the new Council ) and life on the Citadel had a very pro human feel to it and alot of alienshad begone to hate and depise humanity as a result of Udina throwing his weight around.

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I would have liked to know more about his motivation. Was he indoctrinated, or just a jerk?

I suppose there are two ways to looks at it.

1. Udina was always a Cerebus sympathiser/supporter/member, and he saw an oppurtunity to act and gain power for humanity and took it.

2. Angered by his fellow Councilers decison not to aid Earth and upset at the fact that Humanity was being wiped out by the Reapers Udina made a deal with the Devil ( TIM ) because he knew that they would care about humanity being wiped out. It's very similar to the way Shepard decided to work with Cerebus in ME2, not because he trusted and belived in them but because they had a similar goal and he knew TIM gave a damn.

[shepLJ]

Actually this is a huge plot hole to me - In my Lair of the shadow broker ME2 run I actually paid for the side quest ( on the shadow brokers ship after liara becomes the broker) to discredit a politician - yep Udina - it was successful and he, according to the mission report was forced into retirement. So to play ME3 and find him securely sitting in the human councillors chair was rather bizzare. the prelude statement was rather weak.

[Aeowyn]

shepLJ wrote...

Actually this is a huge plot hole to me - In my Lair of the shadow broker ME2 run I actually paid for the side quest ( on the shadow brokers ship after liara becomes the broker) to discredit a politician - yep Udina - it was successful and he, according to the mission report was forced into retirement. So to play ME3 and find him securely sitting in the human councillors chair was rather bizzare. the prelude statement was rather weak.

That wasn't Udina...

[lyssalu]

everything about the cerberus attempted take over of the citadel was stupid

from the anime **** bullet dodging to the vs once again being a little **** to it being udina who let **** slip

all dumb

[lyssalu]

byne wrote...

Direwolf0294 wrote...

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I would have liked to know more about his motivation. Was he indoctrinated, or just a jerk?

I'd like an answer to that too.

Udina had contacted Cerberus to coordinate what was intended to be a bloodless takeover of the Citadel, in which he would force the other councilors to grant him emergency powers so that he could command the Citadel Fleet. He would then direct the fleet to liberate his homeworld, Earth.


Its all in the codex

so why wouldn't they explain that in the game as it's happening for maximum impact and to create a sense of internal conflict within the player as to what they should do

oh right because bioware is good at story telling

[Little Mama]

Oboy was I! I've waited to shoot that SOB since the first game

[Silvren555]

I've wanted to shoot him since first meeting him in ME1, an inglorious, and quite fitting, end to him.

[jumpingkaede]

lyssalu wrote...

byne wrote...

Direwolf0294 wrote...

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I would have liked to know more about his motivation. Was he indoctrinated, or just a jerk?

I'd like an answer to that too.

Udina had contacted Cerberus to coordinate what was intended to be a bloodless takeover of the Citadel, in which he would force the other councilors to grant him emergency powers so that he could command the Citadel Fleet. He would then direct the fleet to liberate his homeworld, Earth.


Its all in the codex

so why wouldn't they explain that in the game as it's happening for maximum impact and to create a sense of internal conflict within the player as to what they should do

oh right because bioware is good at story telling

That is how Bioware tells stories.  See Loghain.

There's the "HAHA I BLEW THAT SUCKER AWAY!" crowd.

Then there's the "read every Codex entry and aww nothing is black and white crowd".

Never the twain shall meet.

Modifié par jumpingkaede, 30 mars 2012 - 01:35 .

[erc1971]

I got to shoot him in his face..something I have been wanting to do since the first game.  So yeah, I was happy with it :happy:

(and that was on my Paragon playthrough, I just could not resist shooting that ******)

Eric

[Arppis]

Sure I am.

Every war has it's traitors.

[Joben-Dallas]

I really liked it but I felt it was a little rushed I would of liked to arrive at the Citadel investigated a little and been docked when the attack happened. Might of been better that way, but in any case it was still great.

[theflyingzamboni]

Shooting Udina was one of the most satisfying moments for me.

As for his motivations, allying with Cerberus to make a power grab fit with my view of him as a character, so his motivations made sense to me. Well done, for sure.

[EricHVela]

WARNING: Opinion only.

I wish there were two Udinas, one where he joined the council and one for the other three options.

The one we see in ME3 should be the one for the 3 options.

The one where he joined the council should put him in the same jeopardy as the others with him to be replaced with a Cerberus lackey that's leading all of them into a trap.

[AnImpossibleGirl]

jumpingkaede wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

byne wrote...

Direwolf0294 wrote...

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I would have liked to know more about his motivation. Was he indoctrinated, or just a jerk?

I'd like an answer to that too.

Udina had contacted Cerberus to coordinate what was intended to be a bloodless takeover of the Citadel, in which he would force the other councilors to grant him emergency powers so that he could command the Citadel Fleet. He would then direct the fleet to liberate his homeworld, Earth.


Its all in the codex

so why wouldn't they explain that in the game as it's happening for maximum impact and to create a sense of internal conflict within the player as to what they should do

oh right because bioware is good at story telling

That is how Bioware tells stories.  See Loghain.

There's the "HAHA I BLEW THAT SUCKER AWAY!" crowd.

Then there's the "read every Codex entry and aww nothing is black and white crowd".

Never the twain shall meet.

Ouch. Loghain was by far harder to put down. IF you read The Stolen Throne. 
I read every codex in ME, but Udina was still a slimy a**hole. What happened to him was what most corrupt politicians deserve. In the end. he didn't even know he was in the wrong and if you didn't have the Thane scene he even sets you up AGAIN. 

Go to about 1:30.


The Loghain story arc...OUCH. It creates a lot more guilt from each side.