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[Creston918]

Rafe34 wrote...

Creston918 wrote...

Raanz wrote...

RDR was great.

I might be in the minority here, but Fallout 3, before the patch. It sucked because it killed DLC but I felt the original ending fit the story.

People bring up Fallout 3 a lot, but I remember the majority of the annoyance at the ending being over the fact that you COULDN'T continue playing. I don't recall a lot of people complaining about the actual ending itself. (and Broken Steel actually retconned it pretty badly, to be honest...)

Again, gaming survived FO3's ending-changer just fine.

But EAware =/= Square Enix or Bethesda. The latter two care about their fanbase.

The problem with FO3's ending was that it was nonsensical. Fawkes is standing right there, for godsake.

Yeah, my bad. I had totally forgotten about the Fawkes snafu. (mostly because I never used him as a sidekick.)

[Creston918]

AlexiusDAlex wrote...

Creston918 wrote...

Raanz wrote...

RDR was great.

I might be in the minority here, but Fallout 3, before the patch. It sucked because it killed DLC but I felt the original ending fit the story.

People bring up Fallout 3 a lot, but I remember the majority of the annoyance at the ending being over the fact that you COULDN'T continue playing. I don't recall a lot of people complaining about the actual ending itself. (and Broken Steel actually retconned it pretty badly, to be honest...)

Again, gaming survived FO3's ending-changer just fine.

But EAware =/= Square Enix or Bethesda. The latter two care about their fanbase.

Oh, for ****'s sake. I hate the ending as much as anyone else here, but don't you think you're overreacting? You might not like their PR act right now, but Bioware cares about their fanbase. Even though the ME3 ending sucked, there's plenty of proof of it all over the game. There was a lot of, shall we call it, "fan generated" content and I actually enjoyed the playthough even more just because of it.

Sure, they made a mistake. They said they're working on fixing it, or whatever. Cut them some slack, or at least wait untl PAX before you start with those statements.

No, I'm not overreacting. I have no doubt Bioware cares about their WORK. Their fans? Yeah, not so much. You may want to go back and check some of their "PR act" statements after Dragon Age 2, where they basically repeatedly said that anyone who didn't like their obviously perfect game was just an idiot who "had bad expectations."

And now the ME3 endings, and all we're hearing out of them is how it's such art, but how they will "clarify" the endings for those people who "need more closure."

Sure, you can argue that if they didn't care about their fans they'd never even bother with doing that little, but on the flipside, I'm pretty sure they would have never even bothered had there not been such huge media coverage. It's impossible to prove either way.

If you want to believe they still care about their fans, that's your prerogative. I see little evidence to support it.

[Alexius]

Creston918 wrote...

AlexiusDAlex wrote...

Creston918 wrote...

Raanz wrote...

RDR was great.

I might be in the minority here, but Fallout 3, before the patch. It sucked because it killed DLC but I felt the original ending fit the story.

People bring up Fallout 3 a lot, but I remember the majority of the annoyance at the ending being over the fact that you COULDN'T continue playing. I don't recall a lot of people complaining about the actual ending itself. (and Broken Steel actually retconned it pretty badly, to be honest...)

Again, gaming survived FO3's ending-changer just fine.

But EAware =/= Square Enix or Bethesda. The latter two care about their fanbase.

Oh, for ****'s sake. I hate the ending as much as anyone else here, but don't you think you're overreacting? You might not like their PR act right now, but Bioware cares about their fanbase. Even though the ME3 ending sucked, there's plenty of proof of it all over the game. There was a lot of, shall we call it, "fan generated" content and I actually enjoyed the playthough even more just because of it.

Sure, they made a mistake. They said they're working on fixing it, or whatever. Cut them some slack, or at least wait untl PAX before you start with those statements.

No, I'm not overreacting. I have no doubt Bioware cares about their WORK. Their fans? Yeah, not so much. You may want to go back and check some of their "PR act" statements after Dragon Age 2, where they basically repeatedly said that anyone who didn't like their obviously perfect game was just an idiot who "had bad expectations."

And now the ME3 endings, and all we're hearing out of them is how it's such art, but how they will "clarify" the endings for those people who "need more closure."

Sure, you can argue that if they didn't care about their fans they'd never even bother with doing that little, but on the flipside, I'm pretty sure they would have never even bothered had there not been such huge media coverage. It's impossible to prove either way.

If you want to believe they still care about their fans, that's your prerogative. I see little evidence to support it.

I couldn't care less about DA2. People expected another DA:O and got that. Shame, moving on.

You seem to forget that it's been less than one month since release. You can believe whatever you want, as can I, and that's alright by me. All I'm saying is that you should give this particular situation some more time before starting with the "Oh, BioWare doesn't give crap about us anymore".

If they really messed up, give them time. As far as I'm concerned, their replies so far have been more than I've heard from other developers in similarly ****ty situations, regardless of what motivated them.

[zarnk567]

Creston918 wrote...

Kushan101 wrote...

johnny532 wrote...

I'm a sucker for happy endings but FFX's ending is one of my all time favorites. It's an example of an extremely well executed bittersweet ending.

Well said, FFX had a brilliant yet sad ending

Yes, it was a great ending, and very, VERY bittersweet. (As opposed to ME3's ending, which was just a giant goddamned Charlie Foxtrot.) And like ME3, FFX's ending caused massive fan backlash, which made Square Enix not just release a DLC, but an ENTIRE NEW GAME to fix it, basically.

Queue the "WAAAAh IF BIOWARE CHANGES THE ENDING YOU WILL FOREVER RUIN GAMING!" horde...
Funny, gaming survived just fine after FFX.

I have to agree during the FFX ending THE TEARS WOULD NOT STOP...... During the ME3 ending..... I was just mad and confused about what had just happened in the last 10 min.

[charmedmeat]

Ashley_82 wrote...

Planescape: Torment

this.  Oh and it's literally the same ending for each playthrough, but oh what an ending!

[Apollo-XL5]

how about some tv

babylon 5 (very sad)
star trek deep space nine (very bittersweet)
battlestar galactica (2004) (both of the above)
Angel (went out in a blaze of glory)

[charmedmeat]

The Fountain.

[ChampDude]

Six Feet Under without question takes the cake. You want to talk about closure? Watch that show

[BWGungan]

L.A. Noire

Heavy Rain

Bastion

Diablo

Children of Men

Serenity

Modifié par BWGungan, 03 avril 2012 - 10:59 .

[goose2989]

This is bittersweet

[David7204]

Half Life in general, particularly Episode 2...

[Yalision]

Dragon Age: Origins, when this avatar gave his life to save Thedas from the Blight, without making a deal with the devil to do so.

Unfortunatly, I will forever be playing Dragon Age without a custom Awakening save. I won't sacrifice my character's.. sacrifice.. to have a correct ending to Origins.

Modifié par Yalision, 15 avril 2012 - 06:46 .

[crawfs]

God of War 3 and Mass Effect 2 (all squad members die)

[GuardianAngel470]

Mr Indivisible wrote...

K-Pax, not the best movie, but what an ending, and lots of speculation (without the strange narrative shift in the end).

That movie was amazing. So much speculation, but it was the good kind. Like at the end of Inception.

[Spectre Hal Jordan]

Arkham City. I know he was a psychopath but Joker dying brought a tear to my eye. My childhood ended when I found out Mark Hamill would never voice the Joker again.

[Kreidian]

Anyone see the Anime called Angel Beats?

Now THAT was a bittersweet ending. The anime starts with everyone dead. Everyone has a horribly sad story to tell. By the end the main protagonist loses his love and is all alone. And this is a good thing.

You cannot watch that series and not cry massive rivers of tears.

It was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

[Jagri]

Kreidian wrote...

Anyone see the Anime called Angel Beats?

Now THAT was a bittersweet ending. The anime starts with everyone dead. Everyone has a horribly sad story to tell. By the end the main protagonist loses his love and is all alone. And this is a good thing.

You cannot watch that series and not cry massive rivers of tears.

It was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

That was a bitter sweet show even in death they had not come to accept they had died and only with acceptance could they pass on. The main character was the key but the anime ended more on a sweet note then entirely bitter.

Cowboy Bebop would be a good example of a bitter sweet anime.  'YOU'RE GONNA CARRY THAT WEIGHT'

[Grudge_NL]

David7204 wrote...

Half Life in general, particularly Episode 2...

Exactly   

[Kreidian]

Jagri wrote...

Kreidian wrote...

Anyone see the Anime called Angel Beats?

Now THAT was a bittersweet ending. The anime starts with everyone dead. Everyone has a horribly sad story to tell. By the end the main protagonist loses his love and is all alone. And this is a good thing.

You cannot watch that series and not cry massive rivers of tears.

It was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

That was a bitter sweet show even in death they had not come to accept they had died and only with acceptance could they pass on. The main character was the key but the anime ended more on a sweet note then entirely bitter.

Cowboy Bebop would be a good example of a bitter sweet anime.  'YOU'RE GONNA CARRY THAT WEIGHT'

There's actually an alternate ending that's more bittersweet, where the protagonist stays behind, forever waiting to reunite with the girl he fell in love with.

[Jassu1979]

usmack5 wrote...

Nobrandminda wrote...

The Hunger Games - Both the first book, and the trilogy as a whole.

I'd describe the ending of the third book as just bitter all around.

Not really. It's the best you could expect without totally messing up the tone and content of the trilogy.
And there are quite a few upbeat notes in there as well.

[Prent62]

Infamous 2. Both endings are equally sad and cry-able. Seriously my favourite endings in all of videogames.

[MrFob]

In video games: Outcast.
One of the best endings of a 90s game IMO )one of the best 90s games over all actually).

[TrollDemon]

5 Centimeters Per Second. (movie)

DAMN that ending had me depressed for a few days.

Mass Effect 2's ending where Shepard dies.

Fallout New Vegas endings in general.

[JimJamBimBam]

Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring. That movie, start to finish, was excellent.

[augustburnt]

Tales of Symphonia, AMMAAAAZZZIINNNGGG game, I 1000% suggest it. Ending is bittersweet though.