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[Militarized]

Hell. No.

Cancelled my TOR account pretty quickly after I beat ME3, waste of my time. If the real ending comes out in an expansion I may think about it, for a long time, but the trust with the consumer has been broken by their numerous out right lies.

[Bundin]

Yes. If they release something worth my money, I'll buy it. While I didn't care much at all for the ending, the game up to there was awesome. Complaining on forums is one thing, deluding myself that I'd never touch anything Bioware ever again would just be silly. I can't easily resist anything remotely smelling of roleplaying (be it scifi, fantasy or even better: cyberpunk) so I won't pretend

edit: also, check my sig. I'm still hoping! And if that happens I'm all over it like Gordon Gekko and the Bluestar scheme

Modifié par Bundin, 30 mars 2012 - 11:51 .

[DnVill]

SImple answer is no. Who's to say that they will just do the same stupid ending in future games then have everyone pay additional for the real ending.

DA2 was a sign of Bioware losing their touch and no one actually believed that its going to happen to ME3 but it did.

As of the moment ME3 will be my last purchase from Bioware.

Modifié par DnVill, 30 mars 2012 - 11:52 .

[Fred_MacManus]

 No.

And I'm only paying for DLC if it's on a par with Broken Steel. Otherwise, it needs to be fixed in a patch.

[res27772]

antony1197 wrote...

Will you ever buy another bioware product if there's no ending DLC?

Hard to say, one thing I WILL say though is...:

I'll never pre-order a BioWare game again, I'll wait to see what players have to say about it.
I'd be extremely cautious about buying another Mass Effect game, so the above statement trebled - for example, if the next ME game was pure shooter, I wouldn't buy it (Nor would I buy it if, as suggested elsewhere, Shepard was transformed in to the next catalyst.... ending the Shepard story by turning her/him in to the enemy, basicly forcing you to kill a character you've built and loved for years, no effing way would I accept that.)

Modifié par res27772, 30 mars 2012 - 12:07 .

[s17tabris]

For ME3 DLC other than ending DLC, I'll wait for player reviews.
For ME games other than ME trilogy, nope.
For other games, I'm not planning to but if it's in the bargain bin and it's good, maybe I'll check it out.

[survivor_686]

I'd probably wait for a bit and then read all the player and critic's reviews.

I went nuts and pre-ordered Mass Effect 3. Good ride, but then the ending crapped out and just showed me some pretty explosions. Hoping that Bioware can patch it.

[OhoniX]

True but with DA2 and now the ME3 endings idk, i mean why no wait
instead all your losing out on are crappy pre order items that will be
dlc 5 months later

But why? I've been playing ME3 almost every day since it launched, and loved every minute of it. I consider that to be a fantastic return on my investment. Now sure, any game you can hold off a month or two and get it cheaper, fair enough, though if you don't at least buy the retail version (as opposed to used) then you're basically just pirating the game, the developers get nothing, and they can't afford to make the next game. For anyone that complains that this game or DA2 came out seeming "rushed", the solution is not to give them less money to make their next game, it's the give them more.

When we complained, we were labeled as the "minority", "children
throwing with toys" and after that they try to sell the shortcomings as
"artistig integrity"

All true though, how could you expect them to react differently?

[Joykilledme]

No... don't think I will... they ruined the entire series for me with the ending and ME was my favorite media outlet PERIOD!...

so no... they need to fix it. If they don't they are loosing a long time Bioware fan.

[Pelle6666]

Not for ME3.

[QuintSWE]

Yes

I'm more on the other side, if they expand on and/or explain the current ending in a DLC, I'm fine with it, but if they rip out the current ending and replace it with something completely different, I might be more reserved about future purchases. I want to play games by people who create games the way they like them, not games that are designed only to please the masses.

So if they completely give up on their original idea just because it increases their odds of selling more games and/or dlcs in the future, that makes them a bit less like Einstürzende Neubauten and a bit more like Justin Beiber, and that just aint cool.

[Nightdragon8]

heh, I still have my TOR account and still playing (Bounty Hunter Storyline is a good, Jedi Knight Storyline is good, Sith Warrior Storyline "so far" is good) Seen Sith Inquistor Storyline its good. Imperal Agent is good... could be more cloak and daggery but its not bad. Trooper (only 20's) its not bad so far, (Smuggler, If i can ever get a face that I like.... its ok (only up to lvl 15 so) So I think Tor is a good game, even SPing it.

I think I am done with Pre ordering games tho as a genral rule. (tho when I went in to pick up ME3 I pre ordered Assasins Creed 3 so, meh) I mean after getting stung with a few games its time to just wait for the games to come out to get a good opinion of it...

I will wait at least 2-3 weeks after DA3 comes out to see how everyone is liking it (or not) but I think Bioware has used up its fan following for "first day sales" With ME3

[Wildhide]

I'll go to gamestop and buy them used when they're down to 10-20 bucks and just let GS have my money.

[Sinekein]

If they thought that the ending was satisfying, then we don't have the same opinion about how to finish a series, and it's useless for me to keep buying their stuff (even if 95% of the game is awesome).

If they knew that it was bad and didn't fix it, then I won't take the risk to get disappointed again by their work.

Either way, no.

[The_Duke75]

As it is now, no.

The ending makes replaying the ME series pointless. Could go for a speedrun and skip all decisions since they do nothing to change the result anyways but what's the point in that?

I'm essentially forced to play MP to get the breathing scene. Contrary to what they said MP IS required and yet they can't be arsed to admit this.

Nothing they said so far convinced me in any way, shape or form that they actually understand our issues with the so called ending. Artistic integrity? Give me a break. If this load of baloney is what we can expect with future games I might as well turn around and never look back at BW.

They sold an unfinished game IF the IT is true. From where I'm standing that's a no go and as such I'm no longer supporting them. The DLC popup at the end is only the icing on the cake. I'm fine with DLC but if it's shoved down my throat like this, not so much.

I might reconsider if there is a) an ending DLC that's for free or 2) if there is an ending DLC that also adds lots of additional content to the single player, in which case I'll buy it.

However, if I reconsider I certainly won't buy whatever game based on reviews by obviously bought out websites. I'll wait for the fanbase to judge it and act accordingly.

Modifié par The_Duke75, 30 mars 2012 - 01:03 .

[R3MUS]

I am fine with the ending(s), i just want some kind of Dragon Age Origins epilogue.

BUT!

I want a final conclusion to Harbinger. So if i dont get it, let's say i will be busy with Diablo III for like the next 4 years.

[Militarized]

OhoniX wrote...

True but with DA2 and now the ME3 endings idk, i mean why no wait
instead all your losing out on are crappy pre order items that will be
dlc 5 months later

But why? I've been playing ME3 almost every day since it launched, and loved every minute of it. I consider that to be a fantastic return on my investment. Now sure, any game you can hold off a month or two and get it cheaper, fair enough, though if you don't at least buy the retail version (as opposed to used) then you're basically just pirating the game, the developers get nothing, and they can't afford to make the next game. For anyone that complains that this game or DA2 came out seeming "rushed", the solution is not to give them less money to make their next game, it's the give them more.

When we complained, we were labeled as the "minority", "children
throwing with toys" and after that they try to sell the shortcomings as
"artistig integrity"

All true though, how could you expect them to react differently?

No sir, that's not how this works. They broke consumer trust, they must repair that trust... we are not going to throw money blindly at them in the vauge hope they "do better next time"... that is asinine and NO ONE should think that's a valid option. 

All these companies understand is money, ME1 and ME2 were big success's and after the DA2 debacale they should have KNOWN not to screw up ME3 but then there they go again... didn't learn their lesson the first time around apparently. 

The answer is to vote with your wallet folks, plain and simple. Don't buy DLC unless it's ending DLC

[antony1197]

The_Duke75 wrote...

As it is now, no.

The ending makes replaying the ME series pointless. Could go for a speedrun and skip all decisions since they do nothing to change the result anyways but what's the point in that?

I'm essentially forced to play MP to get the breathing scene. Contrary to what they said MP IS required and yet they can't be arsed to admit this.

Nothing they said so far convinced me in any way, shape or form that they actually understand our issues with the so called ending. Artistic integrity? Give me a break. If this load of baloney is what we can expect with future games I might as well turn around and never look back at BW.

They sold an unfinished game IF the IT is true. From where I'm standing that's a no go and as such I'm no longer supporting them. The DLC popup at the end is only the icing on the cake. I'm fine with DLC but if it's shoved down my throat like this, not so much.

I might reconsider if there is a) an ending DLC that's for free or 2) if there is an ending DLC that also adds lots of additional content to the single player, in which case I'll buy it.

However, if I reconsider I certainly won't buy whatever game based on reviews by obviously bought out websites. I'll wait for the fanbase to judge it and act accordingly.

Yeah just another lie to add to the ever growing list

[TheBishop_82]

As things stand I will *never* pre-order a bioware game again. Truth be told, I'll think long and hard before I get as invested in another IP/universe as I was with Mass Effect. Five years, a lot of money and time, for a completely out-of-place, Luddite ending that killed the entire universe anyway. If I want a feeling of hopelessness and impending doom, I'll watch the news, thanks. I'm not going to pay extra for it.

[Ratimir]

Without an ending? Never. With one? it depends.

I want the following:
1) and ending that makes sense.
2A) an apology for messing up the ending through lousy writing
OR
2B) an apology and explanation for messing up the ending deliberately
3) an apology and explanation for the well-documented pre-release lies

If we get none of these, then I'll never touch Bioware or EA again. They made a mistake. If they refuse to fix it, they don't deserve my money.

If we get 1, with a price tag, I'll probably pay for it. Then I'll never touch Bioware or EA again. They made the mistake, they can pay to fix it.

If we don't get 2, then I'll never touch Bioware or EA again. If they're too arrogant to apologise for their mistake, I'll spend my money on developers and publishers who actually have some respect for me.

If we don't get 3, then I'll never touch Bioware again (as far as I can recall all the lies came from Bioware, not EA). I place an extremely high value on honesty. If Casey Hudson promises us a conclusion that doesn't come down to "whether you got ending A, B or C", and then delivers us an ending where we can choose between A, or B, or C, then he'd better give us a damn good explanation and show some genuine contrition. Same goes for all the other lies documented here: http://social.biowar...ndex/10056886/1

Even if we get 1, 2 and 3, this debacle guarantees that I will never again pre-order a Bioware or EA game. We've learned that Bioware can no longer be trusted to deliver a decent story or to tell the truth about their games, and that a significant chunk of gaming press can't be counted on to deliver credible reviews (I'm not going to get into the issue of whether this is incompetence or bowing to pressure from publishers). Why risk this sort of disappointment again? From now on I'll wait until I have some credible data suggesting that the game's worth my time and money. Like the consistent raving word-of-mouth that got me to try ME1 two or three years ago.

Edit: And for those possible future games, if they aren't one-offs, I'll wait until the whole series is finished, just to be on the safe side.

Modifié par Ratimir, 30 mars 2012 - 04:19 .

[antony1197]

Ratimir wrote...

Without an ending? Never. With one? it depends.

I want the following:
1) and ending that makes sense.
2A) an apology for messing up the ending through lousy writing
OR
2B) an apology and explanation for messing up the ending deliberately
3) an apology and explanation for the well-documented pre-release lies

If we get none of these, then I'll never touch Bioware or EA again. They made a mistake. If they refuse to fix it, they don't deserve my money.

If we get 1, with a price tag, I'll probably pay for it. Then I'll never touch Bioware or EA again. They made the mistake, they can pay to fix it.

If we don't get 2, then I'll never touch Bioware or EA again. If they're too arrogant to apologise for their mistake, I'll spend my money on developers and publishers who actually have some respect for me.

If we don't get 3, then I'll never touch Bioware again (as far as I can recall all the lies came from Bioware, not EA). I place an extremely high value on honesty. If Casey Hudson promises us a conclusion that doesn't come down to "whether you got ending A, B or C", and then delivers us an ending where we can choose between A, or B, or C, then he'd better give us a damn good explanation and show some genuine contrition. Same goes for all the other lies documented here: http://social.biowar...ndex/10056886/1

Even if we get 1, 2 and 3, this debacle guarantees that I will never again pre-order a Bioware or EA game. We've learned that Bioware can no longer be trusted to deliver a decent story or to tell the truth about their games, and that a significant chunk of gaming press can't be counted on to deliver credible reviews (I'm not going to get into the issue of whether this is incompetence or bowing to pressure from publishers). Why risk this sort of disappointment again? From now on I'll wait until I have some credible data suggesting that the game's worth my time and money. Like the consistent raving word-of-mouth that got me to try ME1 two or three years ago.

Edit: And for those possible future games, if they aren't one-offs, I'll wait until the whole series is finished, just to be on the safe side.

If that last one happens then... i cant even think of an anolagy for that one, but i agree fully with pretty much everything you said

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

No preorder. Probably not until the first price drop, unless I read on the forums that the game is fantastic by a majority of people who have finished the game.

NOTE: I won't be buying the pre-sale hype. I should know better at my age. Fool me once...

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 30 mars 2012 - 11:08 .

[Pelle6666]

Answered this question like ten times already but, maybe. Depends on what happens with the ending of ME3, otherwise there is always the future productions like Dragon age 3, guess there will be dlc for that game as well and I will probably buy it.

[Zork90]

Im going to write that I wont.

But I will.