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[bjdbwea]

I bought every BioWare game (including MDK 2, if anyone remembers that). The Star Wars MMO will be the first one I don't buy. And I would not buy a DA MMO either. Can you really not see the industry wants to force this concept down your throat only because they can make more money with less effort? But you as a player gain nothing from it, on the contrary. Wake up!

[InsanityVoid]

MMOs are fun and what not but ultimately boil down to repetitive gameplay, and the sad fact of the matter is that to be "any good" you need to be in front of your computer 24/7. Furthermore, I always find that MMO stories suffer as you quickly run out of places to take the players and then end up having to kill off major plot characters or something similarly convoluted.



On the flip side, I can load DA:O up whenever I want, take the game at my own pace, go to the toilet when I want to and be the best I can be without having to sacrifice my social life.



But to make a constructive argument: DA:O is too hardware intensive for an mmo and has superficial and broken proffessions and class talents that simply would not work in a competitive "my online ego is waaaaaaay bigger than yours!" scenario.

[valis123]

Loetek wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

why not MMOS are the bigist thing in gameing right now

So i guess your the guy that smokes weed because everyone else is doing it.

MMO's were good when kids didnt play them.

Don't label every kid out there as immature or someone that ruins other's experience, I'm 17 and I'm pretty mature, sometimes the more 'mature' people were acting like kids when I played.

[Osena109]

AshedMan wrote...

A BioWare MMO would be epic. And we've got it coming down the pike!

Star Wars: The Old Republic

I agree am going to play a Sith warrior 

[nicethugbert]

I will not try it it it involves a subscription. But, I will if it's paid for via content like guild wars. But, I prefer player made custom worlds like NWN* PWs more than a MMOs.



Incidentally, it's funny to see all the usual SP paranoia about how MMOs are going to ruin the world. ROLFMAO

[Darkest Dreamer]

MMOs, all the fun of immersion-being-stepped-on right at home, and only for a humble monthly fee. Be a generic hero/ine, with the same story and titles as everyone else, and join the endless battle against "evil" as you fight to be better than that other guy or gal. Come and see the magnificent world, and please don't mind Mr McDooDooPants over there, or Trollythumper, or the pair doing it in their underwear in the main square (I know, I know! Anyone make the reference and I'll thump you!).

[Sadinar]

Personally, I think MMOs ruin all intellectual property they touch and hope Dragon Age never becomes one.

[Arryngow]

This topic is pretty ironic for me.



When Bioware announced TOR, I was totally stoked. As an old SW:G player, I was very much looking forward to a good SW mmo. Now, I never ended up playing KOTOR I or II, for various reasons even though I had interest. So when all the old KOTOR players started flipping out about TOR being an mmo, I really had a hard time understanding their position. "What wouldn't be cool about all that exploration?" I thought. I was outside the setting, looking in.



Now I'm in their position, inside looking out. And I understand their dislike for turning it into an mmo a little bit better.



While a DA mmo does have some allure (getting to explore the entire massive world for example) I think it would lose so many of the things that make us love this game in the first place.

[Druscylla]

I am sick of MMOs. That's why I bought DA:O.

[Ickabod27]

DA:O made me remember why I like playing single player games again. While an MMO would be neat in the universe, the playstyle that an MMO requires is too different from this to make it a compelling game.



Here is to hoping that SW:TOR is going to make it rain dounuts.

[Osena109]

nicethugbert wrote...

I will not try it it it involves a subscription. But, I will if it's paid for via content like guild wars. But, I prefer player made custom worlds like NWN* PWs more than a MMOs.

Incidentally, it's funny to see all the usual SP paranoia about how MMOs are going to ruin the world. ROLFMAO

indeed and you meet all kinds of people from all walks of life in MMOS i have been in few guilds were people have been hilarious

[jHellslayer]

I would love to see a MMO with smaller server where player can host and manage their multiplayer mods... just like NWN and NWN2, only a bit stronger and more mmo features...

[Killian Kalthorne]

MMOs are crap. There are too many crap MMOs already. Lets not add in more crap MMOs.

[Spava]

“Why don’t you like MMO’s?”

“Well, I hate the fact that I can’t slap people physically"

[Tripedius]

At first I thought, yes an DA MMO would be great. On second thought though, it would ruin most of the strenghts this game has:

- No involving party members, just some idiot teens play their 'leet' characters

- more whining about dificulty and class balance

- no real first person point of perspective. Your just one of thousands of Grey Wardens

- limited world development, raiding the archdemon 3 times a week

- no different story lines, origins or endings, cause everyone has to be in the 'same' world

- no playing in your own time. Sure there are the single players quests, but for every boss you need 5/10/25/40 people

- no picking your own spec (critizing random players on spec, speccing 'for the guild', min/maxing)

- healers? lol tanks? lol (everyone wants be the OP DW rogue/warrior or OP mage)

- do we really want 20.000 shales running around?



In short, we have this great, original game that is beautifull in a way only a single player rpg can be. You have your own personal game experience that you can play (within the limit of the game) how you want to play.

Making DAO a MMO will lose us a great, unique rpg and give us another average MMO. Wow's numbers will never be reached again. The audience that plays it now will eventually divide themselves among the hundreds of MMO's that will be available in the future. As for SWTOR I never liked the SW universe so I will never play that.

[Sloth Of Doom]

[MartinJHolm]

Osena109 wrote...

why not MMOS are the bigist thing in gameing right now

All music should be like lady gaga and all movies like twiligt.

[ZeroPlan]

I think it would epically fail like every other EA MMO.

Modifié par ZeroPlan, 02 décembre 2009 - 05:51 .

[Suilebhain]

So far down the pike that by the time I see the outskirts I'll probably be dead in the road.

[ModForFun]

having played lineage 2 for over 4 years I can say that I wont be buying into another money pit again.

[MachDelta]

Devil's advocate here! Again!

- No involving party members, just some idiot teens play their 'leet' characters

Why not? Just because party members haven't been done in MMO's before doesn't mean it's impossible. The game could randomly generate party members names and appearances and then stick them into a plot/personality/dialogue template. Essentially everyone could recruit a "Sten" and a "Morrigan" only my Sten and Morrigan would look different and have unique names. It would be lots of work (and likely no voice acting) but it is possible.

- more whining about dificulty and class balance

No one's forcing you to read other people's whining.

- no real first person point of perspective. Your just one of thousands of Grey Wardens

So? Even in DA:O you're just one of thousands of Grey Wardens... you're just one of three in Fereldan. Would it really matter that much if you attacked the archdemon with a hundred other grey wardens or a hundred redcliffe soldiers? Frankly the story of two grey wardens accomplising so much is pretty implausable (though it does make things more "epic" I suppose). Working in concert with hundreds of other Wardens sounds like a lot of fun to me.

- limited world development, raiding the archdemon 3 times a week

MMO's don't all have to be raidfests. They just tend towards that because it's easier to develop repeatable content than it is to create new or dynamic content constantly.

- no different story lines, origins or endings, cause everyone has to be in the 'same' world

Again, why not? Everyone could easilly have a different origin. Most MMO's give you a different newbie zone (aka: Origin) depending on your race or class. And even though everyone is in the same world, different players can have different effects upon it. Not everyone needs to be stuffed down the exact same path.

- no playing in your own time. Sure there are the single players quests, but for every boss you need 5/10/25/40 people

Plenty of people play WoW solo and enjoy it just fine. So you don't do multiplayer content, big deal, there's other stuff to do too.

- no picking your own spec (critizing random players on spec, speccing 'for the guild', min/maxing)

Find a new guild and/or tell others to pound sand. I was in what you would call a "high end" raiding guild for two years. We reached the top 200 in north america. I was also an officer. And we never EVER forced ANYONE to change their spec simply for a raid. People did so voluntarilly for the good of the guild but it was not manditory. I personally ran as a fire mage through all of Molten Core (back in the day), even when we were still learning it! Heresy? Hardly. Every spec (should) have a use, it's up to you and your guild to find it.

- healers? lol tanks? lol (everyone wants be the OP DW rogue/warrior or OP mage)

Some people enjoy healing or tanking. In some MMO's there are no such things as healers or tanks.

do we really want 20.000 shales running around?

Ok, this one I agree with.



Now all that said, I agree that DA:O probably isn't the best candidate for an MMO. It could very easilly come out as generic or just plain uninspired, but it is unfair and honestly kind of insulting to BioWare for everyone to simply state "I hate WoW MMO's and a DA:O MMO would cause the universe to implode!!!!111`". Does everyone honestly think that little of one of the greatest RPG studios on the planet? Or is this simply more mindless WoW-bashing? Hating the popular kid is easy. Learning from their success is the hard part.

Modifié par MachDelta, 02 décembre 2009 - 06:14 .

[anillop]

Double Post sorry.

Modifié par anillop, 02 décembre 2009 - 08:51 .

[anillop]

No no a thousand times no. The game is great the way it is because i have a life and need to be able to walk away from the game while i am playing and do other things. MMOs while fun are a total time sync and are just not an option for people with things going on. I like the game just how it is.

[Behindyounow]

The best thing about DA? Your choices affecting the world. With thousands of other players, choices wont affect the world anymore than trying to fart against a tornado.