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[Shepard Wins]

CronoDragoon wrote...

It's okay for Stanley to defend his co-workers, you know. You guys are twisting his post to make it seem like he was calling the fans idiots, which he was not. If anything, the post he was responding to suggested that Bioware cannot produce original ideas and can only be a reflection of the fans. I don't think you believe that, and neither does Stanley, so he responded by pointing out that it's okay, and indeed necessary, for the writers to try and put some of their ideas out there. There's no reason to deny this.

I don't think anyone will deny creative, talented people write for Bioware. If we didn't believe that, we'd have no reason to ask them trust them to change it

If you guys want anything but PR talk, you need to stop jumping on someone when they say something real and assuming the worst interpretation of the words. Some people in here are acting like Stanley just dropped a slur or something.

A fair explanation. Still, I stand by my opinion that it was a poor choice of words (Stanley's statement quoted in OP I mean) and it looks like calling everyone who disliked the endings idiots.

Modifié par Shepard Wins, 30 mars 2012 - 04:36 .

[GeoFukari]

This one is amazed that this thread has not met the end of the line.

[locsphere]

Its one thing to Listen and take criticsim, reflect on it and make changes that your consumer base will enjoy.

It is another thing to listen to criticism, demean and even insult your users intelligence and hide behind art as why the endings should not be changed. The endings are the worst of any series ever. It is nonsense to say you wanted people to not forget it. If making a games ending utterly terrible is a way to make it memorable. Then mission accomplished. Further more it is a Red, blue and green ending. There is nothing, NOTHING deep about it! Im going to play a game that brings real closure to a series. MGS4.

[Talogrungi]

Syrellaris wrote...

Mass effect 3 is still one of the best selling games they have right now, a few fans returning there copies does not matter. The price hasn't dropped that big either, I am sorry to dissapoint you in that,

However, the fans in this community, with the exception of a select few, have been extremely rude and insulting. You cannot expect anyone, a company or person, to keep responding civil at that point.

You so called fans take something they say, over analyze it to death and twist it and twist it just to find that one piece of so called information that confirms your so called hatred. I have seen that with pretty much everything bioware has posted regarding the matter, the threads created that were insulting etc.

Those aren't real fans nor people of the actuall Retake movement. Those are just plain spoiled brats, and the Opening poster is one of them.

You can Like or dislike the endings, you can agree or disagree with what bioware said or you can even openly discuss it nicely as adults, thats the right people have. However if you start demanding things to be changed because you disagree with it and it is not even your own creation  or paying someone to make that select item or whatever you wanted, you are just being rude.

Yes, it matters. .. and for clarification, ME3 is now selling for the equivalent of $34 (USD) here. It was $60 (USD) at launch, so .. you're wrong. That's a price drop of 43%,

You're also incorrect by stating that the fans have been (almost) universally rude and insulting. Even Bioware has stated numerous times that they vast majority of Retake members have been civil and polite.

Again, you could not be more wrong. We don't hate Bioware; you need to understand this because it's very, very important. We, by and large, love Bioware .. which is precisely why the rushed endings have received such a critical negative response. We not angry .. we're just terribly disappointed.

They let us down, and they need to know that they let us down.

[Stanley Woo]

And that's enough of that. Bans have been handed out for violation of our Site Rules.

End of line.