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#376
ThomasakaDes_

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Axlesauce wrote...

Why is this topic still here?


Becaus it`s relevant maybe? ;P
As long as the community managers here just write "Restrictions" and don`t give any details to what those restrictions is, people will question the thruth behind it.
Especially when EA tracks so damn much of what we do in BF3.

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PS3 users. Please for the.love of god or feet or whatever please, please. Dont complain here for once.

Go here.
http://community.us.playstation.com/

I see no complaints like you are doing here.

Instead if making assumptions and bandwagon crap you are doing go there see if you get any answers. I swear a lot of you are acting like.
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So please think before you act exhaust other areas before you play the blame game. You are not helping. You are not painting ps3 users in a good light. Just stop stfu and think before you point your fingers. Actually ask other sources.

From what I hear Sony has no idea what the right hand is doing from the left.

Modifié par wolfstanus, 31 mars 2012 - 06:09 .


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 Correction
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If BioWare was blatently lying to PS3 users about Technical issues and blaming Sony even though it was not their fault, Don't you think that Sony would release a statement or something to PS3 users stating that it is not Technical issues it is BioWare? I don't believe BioWare would lie to its fan base, that would only hurt future sales of their products. I truly believe there are technical difficulties or Sony is just being jerks to their own users.

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Playstation isn't even aware of the events from what they told me.

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NuB Doc XO wrote...

If BioWare was blatently lying to PS3 users about Technical issues and blaming Sony even though it was not their fault, Don't you think that Sony would release a statement or something to PS3 users stating that it is not Technical issues it is BioWare? I don't believe BioWare would lie to its fan base, that would only hurt future sales of their products. I truly believe there are technical difficulties or Sony is just being jerks to their own users.


Its one game, it isn't that huge of an issue to Sony.

I wanna believe one is asking the other but I doubt BioWare EA has even asked Sony, and I doubt Sony gives a damn.

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RazRei wrote...

NuB Doc XO wrote...

If BioWare was blatently lying to PS3 users about Technical issues and blaming Sony even though it was not their fault, Don't you think that Sony would release a statement or something to PS3 users stating that it is not Technical issues it is BioWare? I don't believe BioWare would lie to its fan base, that would only hurt future sales of their products. I truly believe there are technical difficulties or Sony is just being jerks to their own users.


Its one game, it isn't that huge of an issue to Sony.

I wanna believe one is asking the other but I doubt BioWare EA has even asked Sony, and I doubt Sony gives a damn.


Look at those assumptions you make.

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Highlord Heian wrote...

Look at those assumptions you make.


Same goes for you Subway.

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Nocturnalfox wrote...

No I hate to hear from people who don't play it on the same system and don't have a clue.

I am open to it being a Sony Issue- however they are denying it and BioWare aren't being specific.
There is no excuse for not being blunt for what the problem is and leaving PS3 users in the dark until the event is almost there and saying "meh, we couldn't do it"

I don't like people who make excuses when they fail- which BW is doing.
And even worse then playing the blame game "it's not our fault, blame the others for a reason we aren't sharing"

When they come out and say EXACTLY what the issue is with needle in haystack precision, I think most PS3 users will quieten down.


Do you have a link to them denying it? I'd love to see how they worded it and am having no luck with Google.

Thanks.

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Nocturnalfox wrote...

Playstation isn't even aware of the events from what they told me.


Got a link for this, also?

Cheers.

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Nocturnalfox wrote...

Playstation isn't even aware of the events from what they told me.


nor should they be. its not like a sony person is hanging out in the bioware's offices when they discuss these ideas.
its insane to blame sony over something they are not in control of. they have policies, bioware is aware of the policy and chose to go ahead with an event in spite of it. that isnt sony's fault. they are not going to bend their own rules because a 3rd party came in and put them in a position to look bad. bioware was capable of making things that all platforms and regions could share in, and they made the choice to go the way they did. i hate whenever this is brought up people ignore it. the answer was simple. come up with an idea that benefits the entire community not just a portion. if you dont understand the concept of compromise you are either selfish or ignorant. end of discussion.

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RazRei wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...

Look at those assumptions you make.


Same goes for you Subway.


What I did was called a "logical train of thought". I know, scary concept. I have actual reasoning behind what I say. You have blind, ignorant fanboyism driving your narrow-minded opinion.

It frustrates you to be so clueless. We get it. But try to be clueless more quietly, instead of announcing your cluelessness to everyone, and then illustrating your lack of a clue by making wild assumptions and telling everyone your completely nonsensical theories.

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Jay Leon Hart wrote...

Nocturnalfox wrote...

Playstation isn't even aware of the events from what they told me.


Got a link for this, also?

Cheers.


Woah woah woah. Asking somebody to substantiate their claims? That's unfair, because what are they going to do, show you their imagination?

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ThomasakaDes_ wrote...

Axlesauce wrote...

Why is this topic still here?


Becaus it`s relevant maybe? ;P


It's literally a fan-boy orgy inviting, console-wars'a-brewin' crap storm. 

Threads like this bring out the worst in BSN. 

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Axlesauce wrote...

ThomasakaDes_ wrote...

Axlesauce wrote...

Why is this topic still here?


Becaus it`s relevant maybe? ;P


It's literally a fan-boy orgy inviting, console-wars'a-brewin' crap storm. 

Threads like this bring out the worst in BSN. 


it doesnt take much to bring out the worst in any forum. rarely is it seen that the best and brightest come out to discuss the same 5 rant topics over and over...

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I really dislike that PS3 owners make the argument that if it doesn't work on their system, it shouldn't be done. It is unfortunate that for WHATEVER the reason these events cannot take place on the PS3, but that doesn't mean everyone else should go without due to the fact that PS3 cannot join in on the fun.

A good question to ask would be if Bioware can give specific bonuses to certain platforms. It would be nice if PS3 owners always got SOME sort of weekend bonus during the times they cannot participate in the main ones. To not have interesting bonuses just because one of the three platforms can't participate is crap, and you should be ashamed for wanting everyone to suffer with you.

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If you can track our promotions, what's the problem?

I just screenshot that from my PS3, hence the odd resolution. It's Bioware keeping perfect track of my promotions.

Not only can they easily track our promotions, they can even track our Galactic Readiness. So what, pray tell, is keeping us (at the very least) from Operation Raptor? Obviously they have no problem patching in new packs, and they can clearly track our promotions. I just fail to see what the issue here is. If it's an exclusivity deal with Microsoft, just say so. 360 players pay Microsoft to pay developers for extra stuff, and that's fine. (PC isn't a direct competitor to 360, thus they're included)

Just stop feeding us these "technical restrictions" and "working with Sony" lies, when they are easily proven wrong.

Our promotions at the least are being tracked.
Our BF3 stats are being tracked through the same Origin system by the same publisher.
What gives?



Many many questions?

What are PS3 users (such as myself) are missing out on?

When you promote a class for main campaign, does it only do so for a specific campaign or all of the created Shepard's?

What is Operation Raptor? Does this include new maps? New classes? New weapons? Is it a new mini campaign which has actual missions instead of hoard mode?

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Highlord Heian wrote...

Jay Leon Hart wrote...

Nocturnalfox wrote...

Playstation isn't even aware of the events from what they told me.


Got a link for this, also?

Cheers.


Woah woah woah. Asking somebody to substantiate their claims? That's unfair, because what are they going to do, show you their imagination?


Hey, calm down. Honestly I think all sides of this argument are acting childish in this thread. There is nothing wrong with asking for valid proof to affirmate claims. What is wrong is blindly throwing insults at each other left and right like the forums are an elementary school playground.

So yes, someone on either the Sony or Bioware spectrum is keeping insightful information on a need-to-know basis away from the community (maybe both are.) Complaining and fighting on the forums is not a good way to get aforementioned information. Dividing yourselves takes focus away from the actual problem at hand and has you all eating each other alive. Maybe if you all backed a common goal, which, strangely enough, shouldn't be hard since you're all arguing about the lack of information from either Bioware and/or Sony, then maybe you'd all be productive instead of ending up in a situation like this.

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MissMinaethiel wrote...

Hey, calm down. Honestly I think all sides of this argument are acting childish in this thread. There is nothing wrong with asking for valid proof to affirmate claims. What is wrong is blindly throwing insults at each other left and right like the forums are an elementary school playground.

So yes, someone on either the Sony or Bioware spectrum is keeping insightful information on a need-to-know basis away from the community (maybe both are.) Complaining and fighting on the forums is not a good way to get aforementioned information. Dividing yourselves takes focus away from the actual problem at hand and has you all eating each other alive. Maybe if you all backed a common goal, which, strangely enough, shouldn't be hard since you're all arguing about the lack of information from either Bioware and/or Sony, then maybe you'd all be productive instead of ending up in a situation like this.


Good answer to the topic.

I am wondering what exactly are we PS3 owners missing out on in terms of multiplayer content?

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Unfortunately I don't have a link on the awareness, they covered that in the 3 customer support phone calls, but then I have an email response (one that isn't automated for once) from a "John playstation support"

Basically says (And I am pulling certain bits out for obvious reasons)
"We are presently unaware of any such community events as they are hosted from the developers and publishers side and not from Sony. If there is an issue we would kindly ask you to take it up with the developer and/or Publisher.
Your concerns however have been noted."
A little bit more that asks me to give it a rest being a pain in the butt.
Basically it says to go to their forums and shout until somebody who knows what is going on answers- So I been doing that for days.
The concerns I think was in response to me saying "that's BS, if 360 can do it then Playstation can definitely do it" on the phone.

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Abraham_uk wrote...

MissMinaethiel wrote...

Hey, calm down. Honestly I think all sides of this argument are acting childish in this thread. There is nothing wrong with asking for valid proof to affirmate claims. What is wrong is blindly throwing insults at each other left and right like the forums are an elementary school playground.

So yes, someone on either the Sony or Bioware spectrum is keeping insightful information on a need-to-know basis away from the community (maybe both are.) Complaining and fighting on the forums is not a good way to get aforementioned information. Dividing yourselves takes focus away from the actual problem at hand and has you all eating each other alive. Maybe if you all backed a common goal, which, strangely enough, shouldn't be hard since you're all arguing about the lack of information from either Bioware and/or Sony, then maybe you'd all be productive instead of ending up in a situation like this.


Good answer to the topic.

I am wondering what exactly are we PS3 owners missing out on in terms of multiplayer content?


Well it's nothing big, like, say the From Ashes DLC. Basically PS3 is being denied the ability to participate in these wekkend operations whereas 360 and PC users can be involved. Now normally that would be miniscule but both platforms participating are being rewarded with N7 weapons exclusive to commendation packs. PS3 is missing out on this opportunity and the explanations have been unsatisfactory to the general populice.

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Highlord Heian wrote...

RazRei wrote...

Highlord Heian wrote...
Will it make you "feel better"? Who cares? Stop being babies, suck it up, and wait for it to be fixed. Nobody's sitting around a table waiting for some whining index to reach a certain level before they flip the "Works on PS3" switch.


Do you still need more examples of other companies using your anaolgy, or can you not read? 


"Other companies" aren't relevant to this. Their multiplayer platform will probably be formatted differently or those games will have been designed for mutiplayer focus from the beginning.

You can try to shift attention away from the fact of the matter, but it won't change. It doesn't work on the PS3, it's a PS3 problem. I don't care if other things work on the PS3, this doesn't. Do all of your "examples" somehow not work on other systems, or have a system-specific fault for events? No? I guess those are pretty stupid examples then.


So what you are saying is that the other companies coded their mulitplayer correctly from the start to work on all platforms and conforms to regulations.
Why are those examples that actually work across platforms stupid examples, that just shows that regardless of what platform the game is on it can be done when properly coded :)

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Nocturnalfox wrote...

Unfortunately I don't have a link on the awareness, they covered that in the 3 customer support phone calls, but then I have an email response (one that isn't automated for once) from a "John playstation support"

Basically says (And I am pulling certain bits out for obvious reasons)
"We are presently unaware of any such community events as they are hosted from the developers and publishers side and not from Sony. If there is an issue we would kindly ask you to take it up with the developer and/or Publisher.
Your concerns however have been noted."
A little bit more that asks me to give it a rest being a pain in the butt.
Basically it says to go to their forums and shout until somebody who knows what is going on answers- So I been doing that for days.
The concerns I think was in response to me saying "that's BS, if 360 can do it then Playstation can definitely do it" on the phone.


Fair enough - pinch of salt, but thanks for the response ^_^

Thanks goodness for ME1 not being on the PS3 (and ME2 standard edition's horrid box art!) or I'd be missing out on these events, too!

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wolfstanus wrote...

PS3 users. Please for the.love of god or feet or whatever please, please. Dont complain here for once.

Go here.
http://community.us.playstation.com/

I see no complaints like you are doing here.

Instead if making assumptions and bandwagon crap you are doing go there see if you get any answers. I swear a lot of you are acting like.
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So please think before you act exhaust other areas before you play the blame game. You are not helping. You are not painting ps3 users in a good light. Just stop stfu and think before you point your fingers. Actually ask other sources.

From what I hear Sony has no idea what the right hand is doing from the left.



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wolfstanus wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

PS3 users. Please for the.love of god or feet or whatever please, please. Dont complain here for once.

Go here.
http://community.us.playstation.com/

I see no complaints like you are doing here.

Instead if making assumptions and bandwagon crap you are doing go there see if you get any answers. I swear a lot of you are acting like.
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So please think before you act exhaust other areas before you play the blame game. You are not helping. You are not painting ps3 users in a good light. Just stop stfu and think before you point your fingers. Actually ask other sources.

From what I hear Sony has no idea what the right hand is doing from the left.


Game provided by Bioware/EA.
Issues with said game.
Raise issue with provider of game until stated otherwise by said provider.

Sony will not do anything here as they do not host these events, they have no knowledge of them. Sony provides a means for users to connect to each other over the PSN network, they do not provide these events, hosts servers for these or provide any support for said games.

If there is a contractual issue that stops PS3 from these events that this is something Bioware should address. You and the whole world cannot tell me that this was not known on release of the game, and if they didn't then that again goes to show of poor development and testing by Bioware.

If it is an issue with accessing personal data from users (which again has already been pointed out that it is possible) that this also would have come up during development and testing.

At no point were PS3 notified of such limitations on purchase.

Btw, no point in yet again referring to a American support forum to users that are from across the globe.

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