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[RazRei]

SeanThen1 wrote...

I really dislike that PS3 owners make the argument that if it doesn't work on their system, it shouldn't be done. It is unfortunate that for WHATEVER the reason these events cannot take place on the PS3, but that doesn't mean everyone else should go without due to the fact that PS3 cannot join in on the fun.

No one is saying it shouldn't be done.  Most of the people that visit BSN that are PS3 owners have just as much right as you to purchased the game also to why they can't.

BioWare has done nothing after the launch of the game but put out "We're working on it"

They still haven't fixed the credits issue of the MP store, they haven't answerd why PS3 version of the game can't do weekend events, they haven't fixed major bugs this game has in SP on all three system.

But they are "working on it"

Oh BTW My EA Origin account can actually access my PSN/Live account.  Not only does it find people on my friends list on both of thos system and sends them a friend request on Origins.  While you may think that's nothing special that's getting pretty specific and personal if you ask me.

Modifié par RazRei, 31 mars 2012 - 07:59 .

[wolfstanus]

I'm going to educate you.

If somthing happens on companies network they have to know about it. They have to approve it.
Patches are reviewed. Dlc. And even events. Sony has to approve these things for quality controle and to make sure it works properly before they release it into their network. At least this is how live works. So Im going to assume Sony is made up of stupidity. Then again a lot of you seem to forget you all had the 25% extra xp like everybody els last week. Or did you guys forget that event?

[RazRei]

Educate me about what? You haven't spewed about any new information that was unknown to the public.

And unlike your assumption PSN works under the same principles of Live.

God don't spew out stupid **** if you don't know what you're talking about. Also MS/Sony actually charges developers to review and test out patches before it can go 'live' on the system.  Both system in this regards are equal.  So once again what's stopping EA/BioWare to turn on these events on the Sony system?

Modifié par RazRei, 31 mars 2012 - 08:11 .

[wolfstanus]

Not you the guys blaming all on bioware.

It's not just bioware. If you get the extra 25% cp but no othere events it may not be only biowares fault

[ThomasakaDes_]

wolfstanus wrote...

I'm going to educate you.

If somthing happens on companies network they have to know about it. They have to approve it.
Patches are reviewed. Dlc. And even events. Sony has to approve these things for quality controle and to make sure it works properly before they release it into their network. At least this is how live works. So Im going to assume Sony is made up of stupidity. Then again a lot of you seem to forget you all had the 25% extra xp like everybody els last week. Or did you guys forget that event?

Since they can do extra xp events on PS3. (Activision does this with CoD too), then they could at least do double xp or something when they arrange events on Xbox and PC that the PS3 users can`t join.

[TheLostGenius]

Trust me it has nothing do with Microsoft.

[wolfstanus]

TheLostGenius wrote...

Trust me it has nothing do with Microsoft.

If you ate serious  I'm going to slap you

[RazRei]

TheLostGenius wrote...

Trust me it has nothing do with Microsoft.

And I agree.

[wolfstanus]

[Ew_Tux]

wolfstanus wrote...

I'm going to educate you.

If somthing happens on companies network they have to know about it. They have to approve it.
Patches are reviewed. Dlc. And even events. Sony has to approve these things for quality controle and to make sure it works properly before they release it into their network. At least this is how live works. So Im going to assume Sony is made up of stupidity. Then again a lot of you seem to forget you all had the 25% extra xp like everybody els last week. Or did you guys forget that event?

Hi Obi-Wan,

While your are educating on all these approvals such as DLC & Patches which btw requires modification of users systems and there for under quality control, please tell me where and at what stage Sony gets involved with events hosted through EA servers where users are connected to EA servers.

Sony and in this case PSN allows PS3 gamers to go online and connect to other PSN users through the PSN network. Once on the PSN network Sony's job is done, finite ...
You now launch a EA game, in this case ME3 by BIoware and low and behold ... "Connecting to EA servers", "You are now connected to EA Servers" ...
Take note the wording, it does not say Sony, not anywhere in the game under that the title screen and store options to buy content packs is Sony or PSN mentioned.

Let me educate you here on 25% xp, this is a server change of values on EA servers globally, kill is now no longer 100xp, it is now 125xp (fictionous sample). There is no change locally  on the console, it's all done on the EA servers along with how much damage you favourite gun in the game applies.

Taking a stab at a guess, API is being used to apply changes across platforms.

All server side changes, nowt to do with Sony or PSN.  

[wolfstanus]

If it effects Sony customers on Sony servers through a third party. Do you think Sony would remain blind and unknowing of said events?

In order for ea to get your money from packs that you buy with real money. They have to charge your psn account. Or is Sony not responsible for that too?

You guys get xp events. That's cool your not excluded from all events. But as soon as items are involved there's a problem. Or did ms pay bioware to cut its own wrists?

[Ew_Tux]

wolfstanus wrote...

If it effects Sony customers on Sony servers through a third party. Do you think Sony would remain blind and unknowing of said events?

In order for ea to get your money from packs that you buy with real money. They have to charge your psn account. Or is Sony not responsible for that too?

You guys get xp events. That's cool your not excluded from all events. But as soon as items are involved there's a problem. Or did ms pay bioware to cut its own wrists?

Let me put in in English for you. There are no Sony Servers other then Authentication Servers and SOE game servers. This game, Mass Effect 3 and it's multiplayer are not run through dedicated servers per platform, this is all done by EA Matchmaking servers and then P2P connections again through the EA Matchmaking Servers.

Once a request of purchase is done it does a call to the Payment Servers for validation. In these events however there are no purchases, so why you even brought that up, who knows. 

P.S

We do get items, like the Premium packs etc so it's quite possible for Bioware to assign these to PS3 users.

Modifié par Ew_Tux, 31 mars 2012 - 08:52 .

[wolfstanus]

Warhammer 40k spacemarine Exterminatus dlc. Delayed 2-3 weeks pending Sony approval.

[Ew_Tux]

wolfstanus wrote...

Warhammer 40k spacemarine Exterminatus dlc. Delayed 2-3 weeks pending Sony approval.

Did you really read my post? For real, that is your response? 

Stick with finding quote images online and posting them as  response, they make you look more intelligent that the above response. 

[RazRei]

Ew_Tux wrote...
We do get items, like the Premium packs etc so it's quite possible for Bioware to assign these to PS3 users.

It seems as tho and just like other online games like MMOs all the MP Stuff is saved on the server side.  Not the client side.  Which allows for BioWare to change and add packs as they please.  Which brings up another point of why they can't 'collect' data from events like these from the PS3 user.

And yes nothing is different between the PS3 version of the game and the 360 and the PC. 

Turn on Xbox - connect to live - start ME3 - connect to EA servers - checks downloaded content

Turn on PS3 - connect to PSN - start ME3 - connect to EA servers - checks downloaded content

Turn on PC - connect to Origins - start ME3 - connect to EA servers - checks downloaded content

[Ew_Tux]

RazRei wrote...

Ew_Tux wrote...
We do get items, like the Premium packs etc so it's quite possible for Bioware to assign these to PS3 users.

It seems as tho and just like other online games like MMOs all the MP Stuff is saved on the server side.  Not the client side.  Which allows for BioWare to change and add packs as they please.  Which brings up another point of why they can't 'collect' data from events like these from the PS3 user.

And yes nothing is different between the PS3 version of the game and the 360 and the PC. 

Turn on Xbox - connect to live - start ME3 - connect to EA servers - checks downloaded content

Turn on PS3 - connect to PSN - start ME3 - connect to EA servers - checks downloaded content

Turn on PC - connect to Origins - start ME3 - connect to EA servers - checks downloaded content

Yes and No, there is a part that is contained online, however in order to see the content it has to be available to you, so all actual content such as the images etc are already on your discs, all they do on the online side is enable this for you to see and use. If it is not then it would require Download Content.

The above will bring comments such as "That is exactly the problem, they can't enable it on PS3" , let me nip that in the butt straight away by saying, content is already being enabled for PS3 users like with the premium content packs.

Anywho, time to play some ME3 

[wolfstanus]

What in trying to say is Sony is responsible for the safety of their customers. It's their console their software and hardware being used. If you account connects to another server Sony is still responsible for your accounts safety. This means they have to be able to prevent a back door to your account.

Items are handled through bioware not ea. dlc is linked to your origins accout. Ea has approval. Does bioware? Xp is differnt from a item that gets linked to your account. These items have to be then given to each account that participated. This can cause a problem. Is Sony going to take the risk? Your account get hacked. Who do you complain to? Do you go to ea? How about bioware. I mean you got hacked through a backdoor when you connected p2p while connected to ea servers. While playing a ea game. But you got hacked through bioware. Because of a backdoor in how items are awarded.

Sony has to approve these types of events not all of them just certain types of events. Xp events are old news Sony has them down pat in how they are delt. Items are a differnt thing. They can be considers dlc in a way because real money is tied into it. Just because it's free does not change that. There were minor glitches with the warhammer free dlc but Sony forced THQ to delay and fix these minor bugs untill they were fixed. There's a current bug with items right now. You may have had them. You purchase a item and you dont receive it but the money is taken. Sony may be trying to minimize things. Sony has done dumb things in the past.


I'm also trying to say it may be 2 or more companies faults not just 1.

And the ms bought bioware off.
Really? You actually think a company such as a game developer would do that hurt sales etc just for a quick buck? Seriously do you live on the moon? Walgreens screwed up when it lost a insurance contract. To make up for it they damn near bent over backwards to keep the customers they were about to lose. Essentially you guys are saying bioware is dropping ps3 players becuause ms told them to.

[RazRei]

Ew_Tux wrote..
Yes and No, there is a part that is contained online, however in order to see the content it has to be available to you, so all actual content such as the images etc are already on your discs, all they do on the online side is enable this for you to see and use. If it is not then it would require Download Content.

The above will bring comments such as "That is exactly the problem, they can't enable it on PS3" , let me nip that in the butt straight away by saying, content is already being enabled for PS3 users like with the premium content packs.

Anywho, time to play some ME3 

I was just talking about your unlocks.  IE you sign on EA servers for ME3, to go MP, Server side connects with client, clients ID 'unlocks' the unlocks they had which was stored server side.  So with most things happening over by EA/BW what limitations that they need to get through to make this happen is what I would like to know.

And you all know this thread will die in a few days but will be back up next weekend when we have another community event.

As for me off to my PC to promote my two toons since I can't do it on my PS3.

[Kage no Ryuu]

trauco gaiden wrote...

bloodDragon80 wrote...

Kage no Ryuu wrote...

SeanThen1 wrote...

I just cannot fathom how people can believe there is this massive conspiracy on the part of Bioware against the PS3. How can you not logically see Bioware would do everything their power to try to make their costumer base happy? You keep saying, "Name me one source for..." Name me one source of a proven "Backroom deal" to snub players who bought a game on one system because a company of another platform made a "secret" deal. Who the hell believes crap like this?

It sounds like Playstation/Sony has a set of rules for what it is willing to allow its developers to do to their game which could cover any number of issues. Bioware designed several events which seems to fall outside of those sets of rules (Goliath/Raptor), and some that do not (The EXP multiplier weekend). It does suck that Sony isn't more flexible with its rules, but I would rather neat prizes and events take place than Bioware sticking only to "PS3 Approved" events at the cost of PC/X-box users, who I will go out on a limb and say outnumber PS3 users when combined.

Yes, that is speculation. I've yet to see a better line of logic being put forth beyond, "Microsoft/Bioware Conspiracy" or some sort of vague notion of Bioware purposely excluding Sony.

This. And also the fact that the PC/Xbox users got screwed over with another 9 months of waiting for ME3, because there were issues when ME2 launched last year with ME3's engine on the PS3 and it failed big time.

Thank you for that, and for being indirectly responsible for the awful ending we got tacked with, because Sony doesn't think before they act. Releasing proper dev tools, on time mind you, would make life for companies like Bioware so much easier, and all you fanboys and other consumers would have a broader catalogue of games from which to choose from.

Thank you and good night.

encore encore encore

wow

lest blame the sp3 bc mass effect 3 end sucks, nice one, if i remeber correctly mass effect end got leaked more than 8 month ago, even more it wasnt the ps3 version the one that was leaked, so saying and BW itslef said they changed the end bc of the leak, blame BW so saying "Thank you for that, and for being indirectly responsible for the awful
ending we got tacked with, because Sony doesn't think before they act. it makes no sense at all.

is not our fault if BW decide to win more money with mass effect and deliver the agme in the ps3, i know bc i also have a xbox 360 that ps3 suck in the dev. department and i ahve mass effect 1,2 and 3 in my xbox 360 and me 2 and 3 on my ps3, but if a dev decides to make a make they must doa  good job, you will ask the same of a book, a movie, if they get translated to another language for example.

even more you 2 have been tunring this thread into a fanboy war since it got started, why you come here if you dont have anything good to add...this is a ps3 users problem if you can help and give real clues of what is going on with real facts and proofs and not just i know it all but i cant prove anything i say ....

this thread got alittle nasty before and thing calm down and you two come back again making console war arguments like you have done all along this thread just to keep the people away from the real issue.

maybe you both need help to understand what the op and countless more haven been traying to said, we just want a real answer, that all.

english isnt my real language , i think i was pretty clear of what i think, you guys should atleast try to keep things calm in here and not start a console war, bc that is not the problem here.

I wasn't really sure when I read this yesterday at 4 AM, so here goes, you suck at maths and chronological awareness, ME3 had a release date for summer '11 at the time The Arrival DLC was launched, after the ME2/PS3 fiasco it was pushed back to a October/November release at which point in time, the ending was leaked resulting in the latest release date. So by that chronological map, the ending was leaked 5-4 months ago, not 8, go back to school and learn maths, please for my sake if not for yours. Most players had their saves ready for the summer release, before the first push back. There was a little s***storm about issue around that time. 3 words for you: "Research, Research, Research!!!", best advice I was ever given so far, more than happy to pass it along, use it wisely, young Padawan.

Oh wait...

...you're just another Sony fanboy.

[Ew_Tux]

wolfstanus wrote...



And the ms bought bioware off.
Really? You actually think a company such as a game developer would do that hurt sales etc just for a quick buck? Seriously do you live on the moon? Walgreens screwed up when it lost a insurance contract. To make up for it they damn near bent over backwards to keep the customers they were about to lose. Essentially you guys are saying bioware is dropping ps3 players becuause ms told them to.

I never said that, I've said that it has happened before, not that it did happen in this case.  
For your information, Bioware does not have any servers , nore does it deal with DLC, this is all done through the Publisher, EA.

Yet again, I have to say to you, this is outside of any DLC, it has nothing to do with it. There is no DLC involved in this.  Content is unlocked for all platforms constantly  and new packs added on a regular basis, take note however, these new packs don't add new content, it provides existing content in a different way / volume.

For argument, let's assume that this is all about DLC and Sony not approving it in the time frame Bioware wants, who is at fault here. 

Sony for following their procedures that have been there from day one and Bioware knows about this since they would have tested all this.

Or

Bioware, for not following procedures, trying to push things out as fast as possible and not allowing themselves the time to correctly organise these events so all involved parties can participate.

[Distilled Poison]

This thread is still going?

Guys, this thread is 17 pages long and has 4,000+ views. Bioware has seen it and is aware that PS3 users would like some sort of explanation past "Working with Sony."

It is blatantly obvious by now that we will never get an answer. So to all the people still pushing for the truth, just drop it. This thread quickly devolved into little more than personal attacks and claims of fanboyism against anyone who simply wants an answer, and judging by this page alone, it hasn't improved since I last checked here a day ago.

[Ew_Tux]

Distilled Poison wrote...

This thread is still going?

Guys, this thread is 17 pages long and has 4,000+ views. Bioware has seen it and is aware that PS3 users would like some sort of explanation past "Working with Sony."

It is blatantly obvious by now that we will never get an answer. So to all the people still pushing for the truth, just drop it. This thread quickly devolved into little more than personal attacks and claims of fanboyism against anyone who simply wants an answer, and judging by this page alone, it hasn't improved since I last checked here a day ago.

Never give up  

[Distilled Poison]

Ew, you've put almost as much time into this thread as I have. Surely you can see where effort meets futility?

[RazRei]

THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE OIL/GREASE!

Modifié par RazRei, 01 avril 2012 - 01:10 .

[Distilled Poison]

17 pages of squeeking and all Bioware did was turn up the volume so they could ignore.