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[Distilled Poison]

@wolf-

For the love of god, do I really need to define to you what Strawman and logical fallacies are? Considering you use the as a crutch, I'd figure you would know.

Following your (intrinsically wrong and irrelevant) logic, how many PC/360 Community events have there been? The answer is irrelevant. This a non sequitor, yet another logical fallacy.

[Bigjosh951]

So there has been about 5 people say this is what Sony does and us PS3 players should have known because there are so many examples of Sony doing this in the past. Yet nobody can come up with one game? lol And nobody is addressing the fact that if this is a Sony problem that has been around for a long time, why did Bioware say in multiple interviews that the game experience would be the same across all platforms?

[Slyde1052]

Gwinever wrote...

i find it funny how he completely disregards my post, yet replies to veryone else's....

He's probably blacked it out of his mind so his fragile illusion can be maintained...either that or he's feverishly combing his high school debate handbook for more terms that will help him dodge the issue while still sounding intelligent in his head.

[Distilled Poison]

@Gwinever

Sorry, I'm posting from my PS3. Half the time I finish a post there's been 4 more. Your post was-

"offcourse they can, cause that stuff goes automaticly over the internet as it's part off the game's programming, same with the adding off the special packs you can buy for (insert nr off day's). that is all on your disc/hardrive.

being able to add stuff to people's account wich is what these events do require acces from (insert platform builder company here).
that's the part where Sony is being difficult, so blame them not (insert random person/company for conspiracy theories here)"

That's a very logical point. But I would respond by saying they're not adding anything to your account, only unlocking access by confirmation of completed prerequisites. For that all they need is stat tracking and soft patching.

Thank you for being logical.

[Gwinever]

also this

TullyAckland
Indeed, an unfortunate update on Operation Raptor for our PlayStation community: Due to restrictions on the PlayStation 3 platform, we are unable to offer Operation Raptor to our PlayStation users. We will continue to work with Sony to extend our future weekend Operations to the full community.

Top men, and women are working on it.

Modifié par Gwinever, 30 mars 2012 - 01:26 .

[wolfstanus]

Distilled Poison wrote...

@wolf-

For the love of god, do I really need to define to you what Strawman and logical fallacies are? Considering you use the as a crutch, I'd figure you would know.

Following your (intrinsically wrong and irrelevant) logic, how many PC/360 Community events have there been? The answer is irrelevant. This a non sequitor, yet another logical fallacy.

Its cute how you use big words to be superior.

But there's been about 3 mostly around assassins creed I think one with a battlefield game. Also gear did it too if I'm not mistaken

[Gwinever]

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Gwinever

That's a very logical point. But I would respond by saying they're not adding anything to your account, only unlocking access by confirmation of completed prerequisites. For that all they need is stat tracking and soft patching.

Thank you for being logical.

to assign the packs for those that have earn the rights to recieve it it needs to be attachted to "your" account they need the acces to your profile to do it, and since it's Sony who controls your PS3 account it's they who need to grant them that acces. and while yes i agree it should be simple, it would be simple if sony let bioware just do it, wich frankly they aren't and bioware passes it off as a "technical issue" to not start name calling

EDIT: the event packs aren't on your disk/harddrive wich is why they need to be added to your account

Modifié par Gwinever, 30 mars 2012 - 01:32 .

[Distilled Poison]

@wolf- Thank you for missing the point entirely.

[wolfstanus]

Distilled Poison wrote...

@wolf- Thank you for missing the point entirely.

No I'm just done with you others have poked enough holes in your boat. I'll just sit and watch as the britanic that is your fanboi mentality slowly sinks.

[Nogthwai]

Gwinever wrote...

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Gwinever

That's a very logical point. But I would respond by saying they're not adding anything to your account, only unlocking access by confirmation of completed prerequisites. For that all they need is stat tracking and soft patching.

Thank you for being logical.

to assign the packs for those that have earn the rights to recieve it it needs to be attachted to "your" account they need the acces to your profile to do it, and since it's Sony who controls your PS3 account it's they who need to grant them that acces. and while yes i agree it should be simple, it would be simple if sony let bioware just do it, wich frankly they aren't and bioware passes it off as a "technical issue" to not start name calling

EDIT: the event packs aren't on your disk/harddrive wich is why they need to be added to your account

Do you actually have to connect to EA on the PS3 as well? I don't have a PS3 so I have no idea.

We have to assume that Bioware did try to work it out with Sony, it doesn't help the game if customers are excluded. From this point of view we have to assume it isn't that easy.

[Ew_Tux]

Gwinever wrote...

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Gwinever

That's a very logical point. But I would respond by saying they're not adding anything to your account, only unlocking access by confirmation of completed prerequisites. For that all they need is stat tracking and soft patching.

Thank you for being logical.

to assign the packs for those that have earn the rights to recieve it it needs to be attachted to "your" account they need the acces to your profile to do it, and since it's Sony who controls your PS3 account it's they who need to grant them that acces. and while yes i agree it should be simple, it would be simple if sony let bioware just do it, wich frankly they aren't and bioware passes it off as a "technical issue" to not start name calling

EDIT: the event packs aren't on your disk/harddrive wich is why they need to be added to your account

All content is already on the drive/harddrive. There is no difference in unlocking these or unlocking content from te current packs. When i open up a veteran pack, the content is assigned to My Account, not my son's and not yours, Mine.

[Distilled Poison]

@Gwinever

There isn't any access to accounts involved. They only need stat tracking to compile an automated list who of met the prerequisites. After that, it's simply granting permission to access the content. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these packs weren't downloadable, right? Nor were they patches?

EDIT- By "patches" I meant Title Update/Hard patches.

Modifié par Distilled Poison, 30 mars 2012 - 01:42 .

[Gwinever]

Nogthwai wrote...

Gwinever wrote...

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Gwinever

That's a very logical point. But I would respond by saying they're not adding anything to your account, only unlocking access by confirmation of completed prerequisites. For that all they need is stat tracking and soft patching.

Thank you for being logical.

to assign the packs for those that have earn the rights to recieve it it needs to be attachted to "your" account they need the acces to your profile to do it, and since it's Sony who controls your PS3 account it's they who need to grant them that acces. and while yes i agree it should be simple, it would be simple if sony let bioware just do it, wich frankly they aren't and bioware passes it off as a "technical issue" to not start name calling

EDIT: the event packs aren't on your disk/harddrive wich is why they need to be added to your account

Do you actually have to connect to EA on the PS3 as well? I don't have a PS3 so I have no idea.

We have to assume that Bioware did try to work it out with Sony, it doesn't help the game if customers are excluded. From this point of view we have to assume it isn't that easy.

don't know myself either, as i don't own a PS3

[Gwinever]

Ew_Tux wrote...

Gwinever wrote...

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Gwinever

That's a very logical point. But I would respond by saying they're not adding anything to your account, only unlocking access by confirmation of completed prerequisites. For that all they need is stat tracking and soft patching.

Thank you for being logical.

to assign the packs for those that have earn the rights to recieve it it needs to be attachted to "your" account they need the acces to your profile to do it, and since it's Sony who controls your PS3 account it's they who need to grant them that acces. and while yes i agree it should be simple, it would be simple if sony let bioware just do it, wich frankly they aren't and bioware passes it off as a "technical issue" to not start name calling

EDIT: the event packs aren't on your disk/harddrive wich is why they need to be added to your account

All content is already on the drive/harddrive. There is no difference in unlocking these or unlocking content from te current packs. When i open up a veteran pack, the content is assigned to My Account, not my son's and not yours, Mine.

while the contents off the package's are i don't think the actual package's are, will check if i can find them but i doubt it

[Distilled Poison]

And yes, PS3 users do connect to EA/Origin.

[Nogthwai]

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Gwinever

There isn't any access to accounts involved. They only need stat tracking to compile an automated list who of met the prerequisites. After that, it's simply granting permission to access the content. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these packs weren't downloadable, right? Nor were they patches?

Since the unlock process is tied to your Origin/Live Account on the other Platforms it is quite safe to assume, that it works by accessing the EA/Live Profile. It is unlikely they added other mechanisms to check for it(as implementing routines for calling all local lists from PS3 Users in order to determine who is eligible). So, if you beat the challenge your account probably gets marked online shortly after the match and there is no local data involved.   

Modifié par Nogthwai, 30 mars 2012 - 01:45 .

[wolfstanus]

Nogthwai wrote...

Gwinever wrote...

Distilled Poison wrote...
@Gwinever
That's a very logical point. But I would respond by saying they're not adding anything to your account, only unlocking access by confirmation of completed prerequisites. For that all they need is stat tracking and soft patching.
Thank you for being logical.

to assign the packs for those that have earn the rights to recieve it it needs to be attachted to "your" account they need the acces to your profile to do it, and since it's Sony who controls your PS3 account it's they who need to grant them that acces. and while yes i agree it should be simple, it would be simple if sony let bioware just do it, wich frankly they aren't and bioware passes it off as a "technical issue" to not start name calling
EDIT: the event packs aren't on your disk/harddrive wich is why they need to be added to your account

Do you actually have to connect to EA on the PS3 as well? I don't have a PS3 so I have no idea.
We have to assume that Bioware did try to work it out with Sony, it doesn't help the game if customers are excluded. From this point of view we have to assume it isn't that easy.

You do. Your psn account is linked to origins account.

[Gwinever]

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Gwinever

There isn't any access to accounts involved. They only need stat tracking to compile an automated list who of met the prerequisites. After that, it's simply granting permission to access the content. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these packs weren't downloadable, right? Nor were they patches?

EDIT- By "patches" I meant Title Update/Hard patches.

if they were downloadable they wouldn't have any issue's with including PS3 owners. the tracking is only to see if you did the requested things to get the event items.

After that, it's simply granting permission to access the content

wich is the entire isue, sony won't let them grant you permission to the content, because to do that they need to edit your account

[Distilled Poison]

@Gwinever

Not so, the permissions in this case would be server sided.

[Gwinever]

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Gwinever

Not so, the permissions in this case would be server sided.

and wo controls the PS3 server? oh right, sony does

[gadna13]

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Gwinever

Not so, the permissions in this case would be server sided.

Quick question (not trying to start an argument) but you know this how? For all I know, the permissions could be made client-side to access something server-side.  But then again, I have no idea.

[SeanThen1]

I just cannot fathom how people can believe there is this massive conspiracy on the part of Bioware against the PS3. How can you not logically see Bioware would do everything their power to try to make their costumer base happy? You keep saying, "Name me one source for..." Name me one source of a proven "Backroom deal" to snub players who bought a game on one system because a company of another platform made a "secret" deal. Who the hell believes crap like this?

It sounds like Playstation/Sony has a set of rules for what it is willing to allow its developers to do to their game which could cover any number of issues. Bioware designed several events which seems to fall outside of those sets of rules (Goliath/Raptor), and some that do not (The EXP multiplier weekend). It does suck that Sony isn't more flexible with its rules, but I would rather neat prizes and events take place than Bioware sticking only to "PS3 Approved" events at the cost of PC/X-box users, who I will go out on a limb and say outnumber PS3 users when combined.

Yes, that is speculation. I've yet to see a better line of logic being put forth beyond, "Microsoft/Bioware Conspiracy" or some sort of vague notion of Bioware purposely excluding Sony.

Modifié par SeanThen1, 30 mars 2012 - 01:57 .

[Highlord Heian]

He's on to the conspiracy! He knows that Bioware both created these events, and has specific, mysterious reasons for excluding PS3 owners from some of them. It makes total sense, you guys.

I mean, how many threads about the same thing is he going to make? Who knows! He has to tell the world the "truth" about what he thinks is happening, over and over and over, until his little rage glands are empty.

If not for the forums you wouldn't even know about these events, and wouldn't know you were missing anything, and nobody would have to listen to this high-pitched whining sound related to whenever a PS3 owner with entitlement issues decides to post.

[Distilled Poison]

@Gwinever

No, the servers and Origin are both owned by EA.

@gadna13

It makes sense that the permissions could be granted server sided, seeing as how they have our stats tracked server sided. It's as simple as flagging an account that has met the prerequisites.

[Distilled Poison]

@SeanThen1

That's a false dichotomy, assuming the only two possibilities are conspiracy and Sony's fault. It could be any number of things, but it's already been proven that their "technical limitations" is not true.

I'm not looking for a PS3 friendly answer, I'm just looking for the truth.