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[SeanThen1]

Ew_Tux wrote...

That is not being said, it is stated to dispute the facts that practices such as the above do not happen where they in fact do.

How does Microsoft having made arrangements with developers for exclusive content IN ANY WAY relate to this particular issue? The only way it could is to try to claim that such is the case here, which implicitly implies that Bioware is 1. Is not revealing this fact, and 2. Is actually lying and blaming the "problem" on something else. Nevermind the fact that no other company has EVER done 1&2.

Deals between Microsoft and Bioware have nothing...nothing to do with this problem. Any indications or insinuations as to the otherwise are conspiracy theories at their absolute worst.

[golyoscsapagy]

Pfff, why would BW tell you why they don't make ps3 events?

All they would achieve is that you would post your cleverness about how what they said was a lie. They will make events available on ps3 sooner or later, most people will feel good with that but we will still be stuck with you when you start your whining about 'how I missed two events and I will never buy a BW product ever again if they don't give me free stuff and a cake'.

[Distilled Poison]

@Dewart- I'm not placing blame anywhere as my beliefs, while back up with some evidence, are still only speculation. I believe the main issue here rests heavier on Bioware's side because "technical limitations" does not jive. One lie begets another.

If they'd just say why it's Sony's fault, with claims that can be backed up, I'd happily go on record saying I was wrong, because all I want is a straightforward answer.

[Jayhau]

Instead of flinging insults around let's do something constructive! Like ... Well let's wait and like... see next week?

Oh god this is hopeless!
*takes a bath with my fat ps3*

[Distilled Poison]

@golyoscsapagy- Have I said any of that, ever, at any point? No, I haven't.

[SirCroft]

Can BioWare track your stats? Yes.
Does Sony allow it? Obviously.
Can BioWare promote free, multiplatform events on the PS3 without Sony's agreement? No.
Will Sony sue their asses if they do so? Yes!

It's simple, it's not BioWare's fault, other games have suffered the same thing because Sony has their heads way too deep up their asses. It is relevant because it means that BioWare isn't the only dev having to deal with Sony's shenanigans.

It can't get any more obvious. Point me a reason why BioWare would allienate PS3 players.

Modifié par SirCroft, 30 mars 2012 - 03:50 .

[SeanThen1]

SirCroft wrote...

Can BioWare track your stats? Yes.
Does Sony allow it? Obviously.
Can BioWare promote free, multiplatform events on the PS3 without Sony's agreement? No.
Will Sony sue their asses if they do so? Yes!

It's simple, it's not BioWare's fault, other games have suffered the same thing because Sony has their heads way too deep up their asses. It is relevant because it means that BioWare isn't the only dev having to deal with Sony's shenanigans.

It can't get any more obvious. Point me a reason why BioWare would allienate PS3 players.

/end thread.

[Ew_Tux]

SirCroft wrote...

Can BioWare track your stats? Yes.
Does Sony allow it? Obviously.
Can BioWare promote free, multiplatform events on the PS3 without Sony's agreement? No.
Will Sony sue their asses if they do so? Yes!

It's simple, it's not BioWare's fault, other games have suffered the same thing because Sony has their heads way too deep up their asses. It is relevant because it means that BioWare isn't the only dev having to deal with Sony's shenanigans.

It can't get any more obvious. Point me a reason why BioWare would allienate PS3 players.

4th time i think I'm saying this. Incompetence and lazy development.

I've been doing some reading on the site and this issue popped up with the early access to the demo which was referred to as "platform limitations". Knowing damn well of these limitations the game was released and sold at the same price as the other platform without any statement to the fact that the PS3 edition would be limited in certain areas.

Events like this are held all the time on other games, double xp, nuketown only ... etc ...

I'm stepping away from this debate as as stated before , it has 2 sides and no one will accept any answer unless an official statement is made. For me that official statement is the deciding factor of buying any future Bioware game.

[Distilled Poison]

@SirCroft
Assuming Sony is in control of free events on their platform:
Why would they not approve of a promotion already approved of by competitors?
Why would Sony actively deny their users free content?
What are these other games that are suffering? (Other than exclusivity deals?)

[thekcpiper]

SirCroft wrote...

Can BioWare track your stats? Yes.
Does Sony allow it? Obviously.
Can BioWare promote free, multiplatform events on the PS3 without Sony's agreement? No.
Will Sony sue their asses if they do so? Yes!

It's simple, it's not BioWare's fault, other games have suffered the same thing because Sony has their heads way too deep up their asses. It is relevant because it means that BioWare isn't the only dev having to deal with Sony's shenanigans.

It can't get any more obvious. Point me a reason why BioWare would allienate PS3 players.

Well said.  Also, the Japanese corporate model is typically a total control top down approach.  They're not interested in multiplatform community events.  They're stuck in the Henry Ford days:  "You can have any PS3 as long as it's black" or "You can have an event, when only the PS3 is in it"

[thekcpiper]

SirCroft wrote...
...For me that official statement is the deciding factor of buying any future Bioware game.

Which is why we will never get one...

[Dewart]

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Dewart- I'm not placing blame anywhere as my beliefs, while back up with some evidence, are still only speculation. I believe the main issue here rests heavier on Bioware's side because "technical limitations" does not jive. One lie begets another.

If they'd just say why it's Sony's fault, with claims that can be backed up, I'd happily go on record saying I was wrong, because all I want is a straightforward answer.

First read highlord Heian's sandwhich metaphor post. You will see that Sony Plastation is the isolated variable in this event availability equation. Bioware has given a statement (which I agree is vague) and said statement isn't good enough for you. Therefore I believe you should take it upon yourself to ask for information from the isolated variable that has not given any statement on the matter. To put it simply go bug sony for an answer because bioware has already given an answer. I know Bioware's answer wasn't good enough for you but that doesn't mean preaching away on these boards is going to get you a better answer. You'll probably have better luck if you and the rest of the ME3 playstation customers voice your opinions to your platform manufacturer. If the problem isn't sony's fault then I am sure they will give you a clear answer very quickley.

[Mazandus]

thekcpiper wrote...

SirCroft wrote...

Can BioWare track your stats? Yes.
Does Sony allow it? Obviously.
Can BioWare promote free, multiplatform events on the PS3 without Sony's agreement? No.
Will Sony sue their asses if they do so? Yes!

It's simple, it's not BioWare's fault, other games have suffered the same thing because Sony has their heads way too deep up their asses. It is relevant because it means that BioWare isn't the only dev having to deal with Sony's shenanigans.

It can't get any more obvious. Point me a reason why BioWare would allienate PS3 players.

Well said.  Also, the Japanese corporate model is typically a total control top down approach.  They're not interested in multiplatform community events.  They're stuck in the Henry Ford days:  "You can have any PS3 as long as it's black" or "You can have an event, when only the PS3 is in it"

nuketown 24/7, double xp, even EA's own FIFA UT pack "deals" would all like to have a word with you. First it was "technical issues" now, according to the blog its "ps3 restrictions." We all know for a fact BW can hand out packs, if they couldn't, then you certainly wouldn't be able to buy them either. ****, they could even keep a seperate tally for ps3 if they really wanted to. There's something else afoot here. Unless you are that far indoctrinated that you believe every word you read from a PR person.

I suspect it has all to do with EA wanting user data and sony saying "**** you." But that's just a hunch. Probably something along the lines of wanting sony to share the # of users online during weekend event or something, or ****, maybe it just is that BW is too damned lazy to keep a seperate tally for thier arbirtrary event. Who the **** knows. Not us.

It just sucks, and tbh I don't know why I even bother. When only pistols and sniper rifles are worth a damn and most of the classes suck compared to Salarians/Quarians and Adepts, there's not a lot of compelling reasons to remain interested especially when we are excluded for whatever nebulous reasons allegedly exist.

[bloodDragon80]

Ew_Tux wrote...

SirCroft wrote...

Can BioWare track your stats? Yes.
Does Sony allow it? Obviously.
Can BioWare promote free, multiplatform events on the PS3 without Sony's agreement? No.
Will Sony sue their asses if they do so? Yes!

It's simple, it's not BioWare's fault, other games have suffered the same thing because Sony has their heads way too deep up their asses. It is relevant because it means that BioWare isn't the only dev having to deal with Sony's shenanigans.

It can't get any more obvious. Point me a reason why BioWare would allienate PS3 players.

4th time i think I'm saying this. Incompetence and lazy development.

I've been doing some reading on the site and this issue popped up with the early access to the demo which was referred to as "platform limitations". Knowing damn well of these limitations the game was released and sold at the same price as the other platform without any statement to the fact that the PS3 edition would be limited in certain areas.

Events like this are held all the time on other games, double xp, nuketown only ... etc ...

I'm stepping away from this debate as as stated before , it has 2 sides and no one will accept any answer unless an official statement is made. For me that official statement is the deciding factor of buying any future Bioware game.

hmmm....wasn't last weekends event a double exp? and didn't ps3 have that? also nuketown only is simply taking all of the other maps out of the map cycle except nuketown and adding a playlist for it, similiar to adding the packages with certain chances increased or certain item types that will be unlocked. but the commendation pack is different in that it needs to know if the player has done a certain thing in order to reward them the pack.

[mrcanada]

I'm waiting for this "we will have an announcement later this week" thing.

Later this week is now here.

[Mazandus]

Unfortunately they haven't bothered to update the thread, but on bioware's blog it states:

*Some restrictions may still apply, Operation Raptor is not open in all regions. Due to restrictions on the PlayStation 3 platform, we are unable to offer Operation Raptor to our PlayStation 3 users. We apologize for this inconvenience and we will continue to work with Sony to extend our weekend Operations to the community. Thank you."


http://blog.bioware....ptor/#more-4168

[Gwinever]

SirCroft wrote...

Can BioWare track your stats? Yes.
Does Sony allow it? Obviously.
Can BioWare promote free, multiplatform events on the PS3 without Sony's agreement? No.
Will Sony sue their asses if they do so? Yes!

It's simple, it's not BioWare's fault, other games have suffered the same thing because Sony has their heads way too deep up their asses. It is relevant because it means that BioWare isn't the only dev having to deal with Sony's shenanigans.

It can't get any more obvious. Point me a reason why BioWare would allienate PS3 players.

been saying exactly that (but worded differently) for 4 pages.
and he just goes: Ah yes, we have dismissed that claim.

so to OP, [sarcasm]yes bioware hates the PS3 now go and play[/sarcasm]

Modifié par Gwinever, 30 mars 2012 - 04:31 .

[Distilled Poison]

@Dewart

You are aware that I understand that this could be Sony's issue, right? You guys seem to find it necessary to keep reminding me of that.

The issue here isn't who's fault it is, it's getting an actual answer. A PR guy vaguely pointing his finger somewhere and saying "his fault" isn't an acceptable answer. Anyone who accepts an answer like that is either not a subject of the issue or will follow anything they're told.

And saying to ask Sony is like saying to ask the CEO of a company why the girl at the check out won't give you her number. It's Bioware's game. They have community managers for this.

[Distilled Poison]

@Gwinever- No, you've been spouting inaccurate facts about servers. Other people have said what SirCroft has said, and I've responded to all of them, including SirCroft.

[mrcanada]

I'm now done with the MP aspect of the game and will be forever until the PS3 issue is sorted out. This is just lazy on both companies part.

Sitting on 5 characters to promote and for what? Very, very frustrated.

[Gwinever]

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Gwinever- No, you've been spouting inaccurate facts about servers. Other people have said what SirCroft has said, and I've responded to all of them, including SirCroft.

my first post said exactly the same except it was worded differenty (like i said)
anyway, bioware wont give you an awnser unless they feel like it, nor would any other gaming company and its their good right.
i do feel for you that your missing out on the items but then again they arent so special to make all this fuss about.

[KiraTsukasa]

BioWare isn't saying what the problem is EXACTLY because, most likely, they CAN'T. If BioWare is trying to come to an agreement with Sony, then they are not allowed to discuss the proceedings or else nullify the agreement.

[mrcanada]

There is nothing wrong or condemning about stating policies that are in place and what the barriers are to an obvious problem. No companies should and will take offense to this happening and it should have been done awhile ago.

We all know there is a problem, but not clarifying what it is exactly just makes things worse on everyone.

[Dewart]

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Dewart

You are aware that I understand that this could be Sony's issue, right? You guys seem to find it necessary to keep reminding me of that.

The issue here isn't who's fault it is, it's getting an actual answer. A PR guy vaguely pointing his finger somewhere and saying "his fault" isn't an acceptable answer. Anyone who accepts an answer like that is either not a subject of the issue or will follow anything they're told.

And saying to ask Sony is like saying to ask the CEO of a company why the girl at the check out won't give you her number. It's Bioware's game. They have community managers for this.

I realize you are looking for an actual answer. Bioware has given an answer and I am not in anyway saying it is acceptable. I am merely stating that Bioware has given an answer and sony has not. Since Biowre has made a statement I doubt they are going to give another answer until the problem is solved or they are done "working with sony." I believe your posting in these forums is a waste of your time and you are essentially beating a dead horse at this point.

There are two companies involved in this problem Bioware (EA) and Sony.
Bioware has given an answer on the situation clearly directing you to sony.
Sony has said nothing.
Seems to me the logical course of action would be to bug the company that has said nothing. If sony states that the problem is not their fault then by all means come back here and bug Bioware again.

You are already asking a CEO of a company why the "girl at the checkout won't give you her number." They gave you an answer which was "ask the other CEO." You insist on asking the question again and again hoping the answer will change.
Surely it would be easier to find out why the "girl at the check out won't give you her number" by asking the CEO of the company you havn't posed that question to yet.
If you ask me she won't give you her number because you keep asking her the same question every day. You should try asking for her name sometime and then ask for her number.

[Djarknaein]

Sony does not want players to get free packs because that takes away some of the profit of buying the packs from PSN store, if they could they would probably also remove the credits earn.