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[Paul Sedgmore]

Vesji wrote...

Dylia wrote...

I'm actually okay with the ending after the Indoctrination theory, but I still think it could have been way better.

Indoctrination theory provides some serious points, which fill most of the plot holes and explain most of the nonsensical things we see in the last minutes of the game.

Spoilers ahead, possibly.

Though it is unclear how can Shepard be affected by Indoctrination after being hit with a death lazer.
It is discribed as a subtle way of controlling one's mind. Zapping a person with a lazer is .. excessive.

There are also a couple of other things, but Indoctrination theory definitely fills some huge gaps.

The indoctination theory I saw said that Shepard was indoctrinated during the course of the 3 games hence the dream sequences and the child on Earth at the start of the game that no one else seems to notice which would also explain why the star child also reseambles this child. I am assuming that Shepard gets knocked out when the laser hits him/her which makes it easier for the reapers to affect his/her mind, with the sequence after that being the fight between Shepards mind and the Reapers.

[robertm2]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

DeeLite808 wrote...

Yes, we are idiots for liking a game, and the small percentage that also like the endings.

Well cry me a river, why don't you. you don't like it. SO wHAT? I know people who enjoy Ishtar despite that its one of the worst movies ever made.

And those people are idiots.

just wow. people like you are the reason people say the retake members are a bunch of immature crybabies. i for one loved the ending just because your shepard doesnt have little blue babies is no excuse for you to insult people that liked the ending. your an idiot for leaving no room for interpretation towards the ending. grow up, stop crying and get a life there was nothing wrong with the ending but there is something wrong with your attitude if you hate the ending that much do the world a favor take your game back and delete your bsn account.

[Vesji]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

*snipidey too*

Yeah, I read, thought about it, concluded.

Firstly, it fills lots of gaps. Lots.
Secondly, it is well structured.
Thirdly, it has significant arguments to support it.

Now, because (Infuriatingly enough) we can not know for sure, as it is vaguely hinted, we can not conclude it is surely valid and fitting.
Same goes with the plot points created by ME1(Mainly) and ME2, which were far more than hinted, yet still fell flat on their back.

Spoilers, possibly.

Like Nazara's (Sovereign)  attack on the Citadel in 1? Remember Vigil on Ilos? Felt like the Citadel Relay was the first part of the main plan of the Reapers. All the time. (For millions of years, probably)

Yeah, far more than hinted, not what they did in 3.

That's why we can not be sure, untill we see what they come up with.

[fwc577]

Hermes_tri wrote...



Mass Effect 2 was a first game i bought from Bioware

This explains it!

[Vesji]

It would be great if the OP would join the conversation, because we are discussing everything between ourselves.

[paptschik]

I liked the ending. It's flawed and mostly should've just shown MORE, it was a bit sudden, but it got to me on an emotional level and right after playing I quite loved it. Now, looking back, I still like it. I like the idea of it. The execution could have been handled better and I actually would've preferred the cliche uber-happy ending, but I'm still very satisfied. Doesn't mean I'd say no to ending DLC - the more stuff I get, the better!

[kbct]

Seems like you need a few exclamation marks with your all-caps title.

Here's the poll:

http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

Almost 70K votes now.

[Dragoonlordz]

Siansonea II wrote...

"Mass Effect 2 was the first game I bought". Says it all.

Care to try that with me? Check my join date and titles in bought section of my profile and look at my signature.

If not, then just don't go there with such a reply in the first place.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 30 mars 2012 - 09:02 .

[Dragoonlordz]

robertm2 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

DeeLite808 wrote...

Yes, we are idiots for liking a game, and the small percentage that also like the endings.

Well cry me a river, why don't you. you don't like it. SO wHAT? I know people who enjoy Ishtar despite that its one of the worst movies ever made.

And those people are idiots.

just wow. people like you are the reason people say the retake members are a bunch of immature crybabies. i for one loved the ending just because your shepard doesnt have little blue babies is no excuse for you to insult people that liked the ending. your an idiot for leaving no room for interpretation towards the ending. grow up, stop crying and get a life there was nothing wrong with the ending but there is something wrong with your attitude if you hate the ending that much do the world a favor take your game back and delete your bsn account.

At this stage i am also losing my patience with (some) of the people who do not like it, while not everyone is as bad as those few but they are having a very negative effect with regard to overall perception being developed towards people of that stance (group who did not enjoy it). Oddly enough many of the ones who are not as bad as that person you replied to have debated and discussed with me reasonably without insults in my thread so I know they are not all that bad.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 30 mars 2012 - 09:00 .

[XTR3M3]

I support the opinion of the OP and their joy of the game. They are entitled to their opinion and I just wish I could have loved the ending....I SO wanted to. I am glad the OP enjoyed it so much.

[Oldbones2]

Tazzmission wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...

I find it slightly suspicious that so many first time posters come on to say how the ending was 'perfect'. Not good, not what I expected or what I wanted or even I liked it but'.

No. They come on and say it was perfect.

Honestly if you can't find one thing wrong with that ending you haven't played it.

Even the very best endings have plot holes, or let you down in some way. No ending ever made is truly 'perfect'.

Mass Effect 3 is no exception.

so just because they like something you dont gives you a right to basicly attack the guy?

maybe to him or her it was perfect because to them as a gamer it was the best way to end it. heres another though ever stop to realize that the current endings are what they are mainly because me3 is a stand alone title?

bioware has stated many times it is such a game because you can select w/e narrative you want

now me i have stated many times to where i lost count that the endings for me and my opinion alone are ok ( not perfect) but enough to keep me interested in the franchise

and regardless on my opinion free or priced i will still be getting the ending dlc also because im a fan through and through


face it everyone does have there own opinions and i dont think its right for you or anyone for that matter to walk up on in here and say they havent played it

1.  I can find things I like about the ending and I really hate the ending.  So why is OP saying every single thing  is perfect?  Does that seem likely to you?

2. If I am entitled to my opinion as you say, then can't my opinion be that he is trolling or not looking at the ending very well?

3. When and where did I attack this guy.  I expressed a little suspicion and doubt.  Hardly enough to warrant comment.  Not even close to an attack, which would get me banned by the mods.

[jtrook]

 I respect your views upon the ending and while I disagree with you on some points of it and do believe it needs to be changed/explained I hope you have a nice day

[Japkap79]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

IndoctrinatedSpectre wrote...

alienatedflea wrote...

OP watch out for the trolls...I mean this vocal minority called "retake mass effect"...I am still wondering who are they retaking mass effect from exactly i mean its not like they had anything to do with the creation of the game/series...

It's the internet. Everybody feels entitled to do online what they can't offline.

Which is funny, because how often do these types of internet campaigns ever work out? The people who complain, you got 25+ hours (likely well over that) of quality game time.

Go play a Call of Duty single player game, then come back here and complain about Mass Effect 3's story/ending. I dare you.

COD has nothing to do with ME3 ****ty ending and you and all the idiots like you who like the endings are a minority as i have of yet not seen one person except dragonlords say why they think the endings are good just a bunch of bioware ass kissing.

Might i suggest you take a break from all the name calling of people who differ from your point of view, it is your point of view the endings require to be changed others like the enigma it poses too them, me im still loving the main game the last 20min dont make sense too me, but the first 20+hours are awesome, get to see old events and people.

And from all the different things i have read so far im just waiting until 6th of april now, too hear what bioware has in store for us loyal fans of the mass effect series(people on the forum being angry and the ones who accept there choices are all loyal fans in there own way), you guys for the plot hole issue and your shepard not getting there epilogue at the end, and us for thinking this cant be it, we wait for a DLC announcement or Patch.

[LOLandStuff]

Wow, you people really fell for it?
He just dropped the post and then woosh, he's no longer.

[Krushiev01]

Personally, this ending was my favorite.

[Legion64]

You best start believin' in troll threads...

Modifié par Legion64, 30 mars 2012 - 09:32 .

[Arsenic Touch]

Rather than bite, I'll just leave this here -

https://docs.google....?pli=1&sle=true

Modifié par Arsenic Touch, 30 mars 2012 - 09:41 .

[Blc949]

A lot of folks fell for this thread hook line and sinker.

Modifié par Blc949, 30 mars 2012 - 09:41 .

[Paul Sedgmore]

Vesji wrote...

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

*snipidey too*

Yeah, I read, thought about it, concluded.

Firstly, it fills lots of gaps. Lots.
Secondly, it is well structured.
Thirdly, it has significant arguments to support it.

Now, because (Infuriatingly enough) we can not know for sure, as it is vaguely hinted, we can not conclude it is surely valid and fitting.
Same goes with the plot points created by ME1(Mainly) and ME2, which were far more than hinted, yet still fell flat on their back.

Spoilers, possibly.

Like Nazara's (Sovereign)  attack on the Citadel in 1? Remember Vigil on Ilos? Felt like the Citadel Relay was the first part of the main plan of the Reapers. All the time. (For millions of years, probably)

Yeah, far more than hinted, not what they did in 3.

That's why we can not be sure, untill we see what they come up with.

I honestly like the fact that a lot of things have been left to my imagination with the ending as it means that everytime I play through it my endings will be vastly different from each other as it is up to me to fill in the details

[Paul Sedgmore]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

"Mass Effect 2 was the first game I bought". Says it all.

Care to try that with me? Check my join date and titles in bought section of my profile and look at my signature.

If not, then just don't go there with such a reply in the first place.

.Everyone like this forgets that there are people like me and you who have played all of the games and still like the ending and instead just assume that if you have played them all you will think like they do

Modifié par Paul Sedgmore, 30 mars 2012 - 10:19 .

[BeefoTheBold]

One thing that I've never understood is how Shepard survives the laser hit to begin with. Those laser shots punch through starship holes like wet toilet paper for crying out loud.

If anything makes me think that the IT might have some legs to it, I'd have to go with him walking away from a direct hit from one of those things from Harbinger.

[Russalka]

Siansonea II wrote...

"Mass Effect 2 was the first game I bought". Says it all.

What does it say?

[Arkitekt]

I'd like to live in a world where people didn't immediately started insulting other people just because they happened to like something you didn't.

[kbct]

So the OP just created a thread and then left?

[Dragoonlordz]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

"Mass Effect 2 was the first game I bought". Says it all.

Care to try that with me? Check my join date and titles in bought section of my profile and look at my signature.

If not, then just don't go there with such a reply in the first place.

.Everyone like this forgets that there are people like me and you who have played all of the games and still like the ending and instead just assume that if you have played them all you will think like they do

Yeh it's one of the elements that annoys me most. Alongside the puffing up element of trying to make out the ones that do not like something are doing more damage than reality shows to the developer regardinbg sales. The impact they (some) think they have vs what they actually have.

I understand why they (some) do it from dismissing anyones enjoyment because it shows it is not an "everyone" hates it situation so that equals less ammo to fire at Bioware. Plus same with the huff and puff making out to be vast damage to sales which is not backed up by any real evidence at this stage because puffs up their "If don't do what I say it's game over for the developer". It's simple manipulation and propaganda to try and get what they want but it is annoying all the same.

It's a shame there are those sorts of people because some of the ones I talked to even though did not enjoy the ending are getting lumped in with those others using such tactics and attacks. While they cannot stop those who resort to such, it paints them in a bad light in general as a group just like I can't stop the ones who attack their side which means they can play the victim card back at me.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 30 mars 2012 - 10:33 .