If your Shepard had been given free will at the end, what would he have done?
#226
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:03
#227
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:05
#228
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:11
#229
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:12
"Submission is not preferable to extinction!"
#230
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:12
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Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:19
#232
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:19
#233
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:23
#234
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:27
Sc2mashimaro wrote...
@our_last_scene I cannot quote because I'm typing on my phone. Sorry. But you don't need to rewrite the lore, you simply need an reason why this cycle is different. The Reapers, in their synthetic hubris do not realize the danger until it is too late (like the Empire in Star Wars or the Borg in Star Trek). The writing becomes a case of what people think is true and what turns out to be true. We are shown time and again that Reapers can be killed, it is only a matter of degrees to say whether or not the war can be won conventionally.
Well judging by the fact there's thousands of them, probably tens of thousands, and they're incredibly intelligent and vastly superior to normal ships, it's pretty obvious they would crush the galaxy.
Heck, they can even brainwash people to make the ultimate moles.
#235
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:29
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Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:31
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Posté 31 mars 2012 - 07:37
#238
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 08:00
lordnyx1 wrote...
S:Yo Hackett you still there?
H: Aye.
S: I've located the Reaper's leader, would you be so kind to send a shuttle to pick me up and synch all the fleets weaponry on this location.
H: Sure...
Shepard's shuttle zooms off as many colorful explosions appear...
hehe...that indeed would have been my perfect Ending...let's get into detail then!
Starchild: The reapers are my solution. With them I stop Synthetics from wiping out organics.
Shepard: So this makes you basically their leader? You are responsible for all this?
Starchild: Yes. But for good reasons...
Shepard: Yeah, right. Hackett?
Hackett: You're still alive?
Shepard: Sure. What did you think of me? *laughs* I am not killed that easily !
Starchild: Would you please listen to what...
Shepard: Please, Casper...be quiet while adults are talking...
Starchild: But I am billions of years old!
Shepard: And still you behave like some spoiled brat. And you committed mass-genocide. Damn, you make me sick!
Starchild: But for good reasons! And I will show you ways to end all this! If you just...
Hackett: Commander, everything alright?
Shepard: Yes. Just some interferences. You know what? Forget the crucible, I found the Reaper's leader. Just use my coordinates and blow everything here including the citadel to smithereens. But pick me up first!
Hackett: Alright, no problem. The normandy is underway.
Shepard: Great. *sighs* I can't wait to get a drink. *thinking to herself* And then? I hope Kaidan's ready, willing and able, because I'll need some serious anti-stress-therapy after this...*grins*
Starchild: Ahem, hey, listen to me! You cannot ignore me! I am the CATALYST! I AM THE SOLUTION!
Shepard: Oh, you're still here? *looks at incoming Normandy* Well, I am outta here! Good luck, Casper,
Starchild: But...but...Synthesis...Control...my solution....*explosions* ... But it would have been...so artistically done! *more explosions, fade to black*
*Shepard and the Normandy take off, the combined fleet destroys the Citadel including Starchild, and the Reapers everywhere blow apart, and a big celebration (followed by a big galactic-wide funeral...) takes place, with lots of booze, dancing and ... private anti-stress-therapy for the saviour of the galaxy*
Modifié par Vox Draco, 31 mars 2012 - 08:02 .
#239
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 08:03
would have been ten times better then what we got.
Hell and if we all died I would have liked a scene with Jack and shep dying together.
#240
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 08:20
Sc2mashimaro wrote...
@our_last_scene okay - so it won't be easy. The Reapers are spread thin across many systems though, so maybe a victory at Earth is possible which gives hope that the war can be won. I am mot saying they should or should not do it one way or another, just that it is entirely a matter of how the end is written. I mean, how come the na'vi can drive back the human force in Avatar? A: the writers said so.
No even if Earth was won it would devastate the galaxies forces. Seeing what is happening, the other Reapers would just communicate and go on the offensive, obliterating the resistance.
#241
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 09:51
thesnake777 wrote...
I would have told the reaper kid to go F*** himself told Hackett the crucible was a no go and it was time to die fighting.
would have been ten times better then what we got.
Hell and if we all died I would have liked a scene with Jack and shep dying together.
I like this idea!
#242
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 09:56
Now THAT is a bittersweet ending: risk the extinction of organic life in order to save Earth, or sacrifice Earth and almost all of humanity in order to give the other races the best possible fighting chance against the Reapers. I think my Shepard would have made this choice.
#243
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 10:00
#244
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:43
#245
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:52
On a more serious note, there weren't any paragon choices available at the end. A paragon Shepard would have let the chips fall where they may and chanced a conventional confrontation with the reapers.
#246
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:54
The illusion of choice has always been there. However, Shepard is his/her own character in their own right in ways.
Blah blah blah. I love all these elaborate things "your" Shepard's would do that. Stunning imagination.
#247
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 01:56
Our_Last_Scene wrote...
Sc2mashimaro wrote...
@our_last_scene okay - so it won't be easy. The Reapers are spread thin across many systems though, so maybe a victory at Earth is possible which gives hope that the war can be won. I am mot saying they should or should not do it one way or another, just that it is entirely a matter of how the end is written. I mean, how come the na'vi can drive back the human force in Avatar? A: the writers said so.
No even if Earth was won it would devastate the galaxies forces. Seeing what is happening, the other Reapers would just communicate and go on the offensive, obliterating the resistance.
Seems like we've reached an impasse. What I hear is: "I would not accept it even if the writers said 'this is so'", but I am saying that most people would accept it if the writers said "this is so" regarding the ability to face the Reapers conventionally. I get that you would not though, so there would be a danger that some people would not accept reversing what appears to be the position they take at the end of ME3.
Again, the example from Avatar. The Na'vi are clearly not equiped to take out a human force. The humans could (and should have) resorted to artillery and space bombardment before even making an approach to attack the Na'vi. But, because the writers said "Jake Sully is a better Indian than the Indians" and "That makes it so they can win", the Na'vi win and Avatar ends on a happy note. Most people accept this ending despite the in-movie talk and lore which would indicate that they don't stand a chance. I would predict the same thing would happen if the writers of Mass Effect said "you can defeat them conventionally if X, Y, Z happens". I'm not saying YOU would accept it, but most people would. I would.
#248
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 02:02
#249
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 02:03
#250
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 02:04
This^lordnyx1 wrote...
S:Yo Hackett you still there?
H: Aye.
S: I've located the Reaper's leader, would you be so kind to send a shuttle to pick me up and synch all the fleets weaponry on this location.
H: Sure...
Shepard's shuttle zooms off as many colorful explosions appear...





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