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[Clayless]

SovereignX6 wrote...

Every thing the star kid would say, i would just say "prove it" after everything he says.

Kid: Choosing one of the 3 options will end the cycle, but it will also destroy the mass relays.
Shepard: Prove it.
Kid:How?
Shepard: Just prove it.
Kid: Yeah but i don't wanna die.
Shepard: Well **** you prove it. * points gun at kid*
Kid: Okay, okay, i'm cooperating just calm down okay? I'm going. Jeez why you gotta be such a ****?
Shepard: Prove it.

He doesn't need to prove it, whether or not you believe him is irrelevant, he has given you options and you have no other choice but to believe him.

If he's lying then it makes no difference, eventually the galaxy will fall regardless.

[Trikormadenadon]

xsdob wrote...

Quietness wrote...

xsdob wrote...

So basically, everyone's choice is to say "screw you" to the star child and die from blood loss. Wow, great plan.

well we've seen that shepard can get shot, blown up, blown up, planet fall, land on rubble/rebar and still live. Sooo im thinking walking away from a gunshot wound not a big deal.

Wait about a minute to make the choices and see what happens. Go on, try it. I have and shepard does die if he takes too long.

This is irrelevant because the topic of conversation from the OP is after the convo, if you have free reign what would you have happen, therefore Shep would not die no matter how long you wait if the player does not want it to happen in this hypothetical scenario.

[AwesomeDudex64]

She'd say "I should go."

[OhoniX]

Both sides aren't shown in the game. It takes the entire Quarian fleet to take down 1 small Reaper whilst shooting at it's weak spot 4 times.

Given the fact it's shown in game there's thousands of Reapers, if not tens of thousands, and they can shoot back and one shot kill anything in the path of their laser, then thinking the Reapers could be beaten conventionally is completely absurd. It's like you haven't been paying attention to the series.

This.

He doesn't need to prove it, whether or not you believe him is irrelevant, he has given you options and you have no other choice but to believe him.

If he's lying then it makes no difference, eventually the galaxy will fall regardless.

And also this. Maybe the Catalyst is lying, but Shepard doesn't have any other options. Her only option is to do what she can do with the Crucible, if the Crucible can't end the war then nothing can. Any "ending" in which Shepard ignores the Crucible and goes off to punch Reapers in the face ends with all sentient life in the universe dying and the next cycle having to deal with the Reapers.

[thefallen2far]

Shoot the blue control rods. If that device can make you control the Reapers, it might have a feedback loop to effect the Reapers... whether it will slow them down as an offensive or.... if the Reapers are sentient civilizations destroyed by other sentient civilizations, there's a possibility that without control of the starchild they might start attacking each other. Without any information provided, it's as good an option as any.

Modifié par thefallen2far, 02 avril 2012 - 04:08 .

[thefallen2far]

I guess the problem with the hypothetical scenario is that it's completely BS.  There's no morality in any of your decisions.  It's literally as deep and meaningful as "flip a coin".  You don't know all the details. It's like... anybody see the Simpsons movie?  Remember when president McBain was given 5 envelopes and Al Brooks said "choose one scenario" to solve pollution in a town not knowing the details or the ramifications of these decisions.... that's like this ending.  That's the choices you're given.  Arbitrary, shallow, destructive and pointless.  So if you want me to say "flip a coin, it doesn't matter".  I'll do that... but it's not making me think or question the morality of these decisions.  

[justafan]

I guess I would tell Hackett to go for it the conventional way and just sit by the Red tube of space magic. If we really can't win conventionally, I'd shoot the tube and kill the reapers because if we are going to die anyways, might as well not go down alone.

Of course before all this, I would ask the starchild a simple question "after all we organics AND synthetics have done to fight you, how can you still believe your solution is correct?"

[commander_shepard]

I'd make sure I brought some cookies... and then eat them.... *mmm* Cookies...

[1jazz]

used all my powers on the "god child" then tell him to bugger off, then shoot him on the back of the head for good measure

[Senario]

What would Captain Shepard do if he had free will
He'd shoot the god child once or twice That's what Captain Shepard do.
When Captain Shepard fought the reapers, they ran away in fear.
When Captain Shepard uses the Crucible its always such a thrill!
He shoots the console and kills all the reapers!
So what would Captain Shepard do if had free will right now?
He'd save the galaxy and kill some reapers, that's what Captain Shepard do.
He'd save the galaxy and kill some reapers, cause that's what Captain Shepard do!
Cause that's what Captain Shepard do!

...*cough* *cough*

In all seriousness, WE WILL FIND ANOTHER WAY.

[OhoniX]

I guess I would tell Hackett to go for it the conventional way and just sit by the Red tube of space magic. If we really can't win conventionally, I'd shoot the tube and kill the reapers because if we are going to die anyways, might as well not go down alone.

We;re already at that point. The entire time you're in the Citadel Hacket's been TRYING to win the war conventionally, or rather, doing all the same things he'd be doing if that were his goal (he f course knows better than that so he's been stalling for time, so it's the same thing). And the allies are losing and losing bad.

If your goal is "fight it conventionally until all hope is lost, then pull the red trigger," then pull the red trigger.

used all my powers on the "god child" then tell him to bugger off, then shoot him on the back of the head for good measure

I fire magic missile at. . . the darkness!

Yeah, good luck attacking something that has no actual physical presence.

[Soviet Rei]

ed87 wrote...

*Shepard whips out recording device*

Shepard: "I'm Commander Shepard and this is my least favourite spot on the citadel"

Starchild: ....

I lol'd so hard.

Hell, I just wanted to kick the Reapers in their daddy bags, plain and simple. So I'd've just said "Yeah, okay, that's cool and all, but how about instead of me becoming god, genetically joining the universe, or wiping out interstellar travel, can I just...y'know, ****ing kill the Reapers like I came here to do?"

[jarms48]

Have a good old fashioned sit down.

[Sc2mashimaro]

nicksmi56 wrote...

@Our_Last_Scene Pardon me if I don't buy into defeatist logic in a series that has made a point of telling me that impossible things are possible. Betraying key themes doesn't really work in the last act of a trilogy XD

This.

[Sc2mashimaro]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Kalas82 wrote...


So where exactly does ur information hail from? Codex? Some dialogue? 
Well as mentioned i judge by what is seen ingame and there the reapers don`t seem that though anymore (in ME3(while they weren`t in ME1 to begin with..it was rather the Geth-fleet and the moment of surprise)and this is mostly shown in cutscenes..cause you never actualy fight  any other reaper than the "baby-reaper" within the collector-base.
I don`t see how ur point can be valid and mine not..or the otherway around, cause both sides are shown in the game.
I know that i can`t  convince anyone in the internets...but honestly atleast realizing that this coin has 2 sides should be mangable

Both sides aren't shown in the game. It takes the entire Quarian fleet to take down 1 small Reaper whilst shooting at it's weak spot 4 times.

Given the fact it's shown in game there's thousands of Reapers, if not tens of thousands, and they can shoot back and one shot kill anything in the path of their laser, then thinking the Reapers could be beaten conventionally is completely absurd. It's like you haven't been paying attention to the series.

Actually, careful examination shows that you're completely wrong on this. All of the TEXT and DIALOGUE has CHARACTERs saying how undefeatable Reapers are. All of the ACTION shows they are quite defeatable. The ENDING supports the text/dialogue position, but most good stories tend to choose the action side. In other words: character's words are not reliable, what you SEE is reliable.

[Canis_Major]

What would i have done?

Probably get the radio and tell every ship around that the guy that controls the reapers lives in the Citadel, so they better blow everything up instead of fighting reapers.

No controller = reapers run amok.

[Canis_Major]

Carlthestrange wrote...

Forget the Citdel. The moment we exited the relay and were heading for Earth, I would have had every single ship in the fleet lock onto Harbinger. Chop off the snakes head.

True. I also wondered why they didnt focus fire the biggest reapers. They werent so many: kill them one by one, starting by harbinger.

[Canis_Major]

Another unexplored option:

1. I use all the alliance starships to pick up as many humans as possible from earth.

2. Go to Pluto's Mass Relay

3. Everybody TP to somewhere.

4. Last one blow Mass Relay up. GL HF reapers.