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[LogicGunn]

My Shep would have spouted some circular logic that seems to always make artificial beings stutter than frazzle.

Or, more realistically, she would have talked the "boy" into calling off the reapers, since I've spent three games talking people in and out of situations without bloodshed. If I can get the Krogan into bed with the Turians, and the Quarians to admit they were wrong about the Geth, then I can tame a lonely AI with some TLC and logic.

[Menethra]

Stand there using my infinite ammo and hoping at some point it manages to kill star child.

Modifié par Menethra, 30 mars 2012 - 06:25 .

[Sc2mashimaro]

Shepard: Hackett, Normandy, come in.

Joker: Shepard! You're alive!

Hackett: I thought we lost you. Are you still on the Citadel? Can you fire the Crucible?

Shepard: Admiral, the Crucible is a Reaper trap. We can't win using it.

The Catalyst child dissapears in a huff - it's on the Reaper's side, after all.

Hackett: We can't win fighting them head on, we have to retreat.

Shepard: No, I have an idea. The Crucible has an active AI that apparently can control the Reapers, if we can reprogram it we might have a shot.

Hackett: That sounds incredibly risky. How would you do that?

Shepard: EDI, we're going to need your help.

EDI: Shepard?

Joker: No. No way.

Shepard: Joker who do you have on board?

Joker: Not EDI, Shepard.

EDI: It's okay, Joker. No one else can do this.

Shepard: Joker, who do you have with you?

Joker: (reluctantly) Everyone except [insert squad members who made run at the beam with Shepard here].

[Shepard Chooses his squad - EDI is not a choice (she runs a parallel mission) - and, honestly, the ME2 members who are still alive should be available squad choices here BECAUSE I SAY SO ;) - the other members will be involved too and (if they survived on Earth) the other two squadies show up later in the mission ]

The Normandy swoops around to drop the squad off and EDI. As EDI leaves the Normandy, Joker stands in the doorway.

EDI: (turning to Joker) Jeffery.

Joker: Yeah?

EDI: I love you.

Joker: Just come back.

[mission start: Fight through Reapers to find a console where EDI can upload a virus based on the fragments of Reaper code - she eventually has to upload herself into the computer to fight the AI. She "dies" - but, happy ending, turns out her consciousness survives on the Normandy. She'll need a new body though - but I'm sure Joker will be more than happy to work with her about that. The fight through the Citadel should resemble something of a cross between LotSB and the Suicide Mission involving all squad mates who are alive from ME1 and 2.]

The end.

Modifié par Sc2mashimaro, 30 mars 2012 - 06:27 .

[KustomDeluxe]

Corrik Ronis wrote...

EPIC....RAP....BATTTLESOFHISTORY!!1!!1

Commander Shepard!

VS!

......Thhhhhhhhe Starchild!

BEGIN!

[Sorry for minor derailment]
Shepherd: Yo my name is Shepherd, I'm here to save the galaxy. Ain't no [soldier/engineer/biotic] as bad as me. I beat all your minions, now I be in control. Now sit back you little brat and see how me and my crew roll.

Starchild: Man you gonna lose, no matter what you do. You only get three option so tell me, Red Green or Blue?

Shepherd: FFFFUUUUUUUU-

[LogicGunn]

Sc2mashimaro wrote...

Shepard: Hackett, Normandy, come in.

Joker: Shepard! You're alive!

Hackett: I thought we lost you. Are you still on the Citadel? Can you fire the Crucible?

Shepard: Admiral, the Crucible is a Reaper trap. We can't win using it.

Hackett: We can't win fighting them head on, we have to retreat.

Shepard: No, I have an idea. The Crucible has an active AI that apparently can control the Reapers, if we can reprogram it we might have a shot.

Hackett: That sounds incredibly risky. How would you do that?

Shepard: EDI, we're going to need your help.

EDI: Shepard?

Joker: No. No way.

Shepard: Joker who do you have on board?

Joker: Not EDI, Shepard.

EDI: It's okay, Joker. No one else can do this.

Shepard: Joker, who do you have with you?

Joker: (reluctantly) Everyone except [insert squad members who made run at the beam with Shepard here].

[Shepard Chooses his squad - EDI is not a choice (she runs a parallel mission) - and, honestly, the ME2 members who are still alive should be available squad choices here BECAUSE I SAY SO ;) - the other members will be involved too and (if they survived on Earth) the other two squadies show up later in the mission ]

The Normandy swoops around to drop the squad off and EDI. As EDI leaves the Normandy, Joker stands in the doorway.

EDI: (turning to Joker) Jeffery.

Joker: Yeah?

EDI: I love you.

Joker: Just come back.

[mission start: Fight through Reapers to find a console where EDI can upload a virus based on the fragments of Reaper code - she eventually has to upload herself into the computer to fight the AI. She "dies" - but, happy ending, turns out her consciousness survives on the Normandy. She'll need a new body though - but I'm sure Joker will be more than happy to work with her about that. The fight through the Citadel should resemble something of a cross between LotSB and the Suicide Mission involving all squad mates who are alive from ME1 and 2.]

The end.

EPIC WIN!

[AshenSugar]

xsdob wrote...

So basically, everyone's choice is to say "screw you" to the star child and die from blood loss. Wow, great plan.

Awakening reveals that the destruction of even one Mass Relay can effectively destroy an entire system, potentially leading to the death of billions.

Ipso facto, destroying them all would lead to uncounted megatrillions of deaths... gigadeath crime (to coin a Frank Herbert phrase), as we have no reason to believe that the the scenario would be any different if the Relays were destroyed as a result of Shepard's choices.

If given a choice between galactic genocide, or his own death.. then yes, absolutely, my Shepard would choose to die from blood loss. But beyond that, surely refusing to submit to the enemy, and do their bidding is a far nobler, and braver course of action than submitting purely to save one's own skin?

[Eljacko558]

Merengues 1945 wrote...

Ghost Kid: U must choose one of these endings now.
Shepard: Repeat again to my why should I choose one of these spooky endings.
GK: Because.
S: Yeah, I don't think so, I'm a space cowboy, I don't take orders from crazy kids.
GK: I order you to choose!
S: I should go.

Kid order Harbinger to kill Shepard

S: (to Harbinger) Dude! Do you realize this 4ss it's controlling you?
Harbinger: No!! I'm in control!!
S: You are still in time, you must fight.

Harbinger kills Ghost Kid, then he and all the reapers commit massive suicide after the revelation that they were also indoctrinated.

Hackett: Hey! The war it's over
S: Sure it is.
H: A shuttle it's in your way, Krogans want to give you a special V-day cake made of salarians, and the galaxy wants to give you a coupon for a free dance lessons.

I would pay for this ending!

[Visserian99]

Sc2mashimaro wrote...

Shepard: Hackett, Normandy, come in.

Joker: Shepard! You're alive!

Hackett: I thought we lost you. Are you still on the Citadel? Can you fire the Crucible?

Shepard: Admiral, the Crucible is a Reaper trap. We can't win using it.

The Catalyst child dissapears in a huff - it's on the Reaper's side, after all.

Hackett: We can't win fighting them head on, we have to retreat.

Shepard: No, I have an idea. The Crucible has an active AI that apparently can control the Reapers, if we can reprogram it we might have a shot.

Hackett: That sounds incredibly risky. How would you do that?

Shepard: EDI, we're going to need your help.

EDI: Shepard?

Joker: No. No way.

Shepard: Joker who do you have on board?

Joker: Not EDI, Shepard.

EDI: It's okay, Joker. No one else can do this.

Shepard: Joker, who do you have with you?

Joker: (reluctantly) Everyone except [insert squad members who made run at the beam with Shepard here].

[Shepard Chooses his squad - EDI is not a choice (she runs a parallel mission) - and, honestly, the ME2 members who are still alive should be available squad choices here BECAUSE I SAY SO ;) - the other members will be involved too and (if they survived on Earth) the other two squadies show up later in the mission ]

The Normandy swoops around to drop the squad off and EDI. As EDI leaves the Normandy, Joker stands in the doorway.

EDI: (turning to Joker) Jeffery.

Joker: Yeah?

EDI: I love you.

Joker: Just come back.

[mission start: Fight through Reapers to find a console where EDI can upload a virus based on the fragments of Reaper code - she eventually has to upload herself into the computer to fight the AI. She "dies" - but, happy ending, turns out her consciousness survives on the Normandy. She'll need a new body though - but I'm sure Joker will be more than happy to work with her about that. The fight through the Citadel should resemble something of a cross between LotSB and the Suicide Mission involving all squad mates who are alive from ME1 and 2.]

The end.

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[Risselda]

Prolly call Garrus up to calibrate the crucible.

That way only the reapers die I think this is the reason we're having so much trouble.....big gun with no calibrations!

[Carlthestrange]

Shepard looks at the Starchild:

"WE MUST KUNG FU FIGHT!"

[webrakefornobody]

after spacebrat presents the destroy option:

[RENEGADE INTERRUPT] Shepard empties his clip into the red glowing part of the crucible.

Shepard (turns to spacebrat): I'll see you in hell!

The Crucible fires and Shepard and the Spacebrat vanish in blinding red light.

Roll ending cutscene that has different segments depending on the players galactic readyness, not only EMS (scientific/crucible assets could affect the close range effect of the impulse, or whether or not the relays are destroyed?) and of course some key decisions made throughout the series. we don't see random human soldiers celebrating, we see wrex with his men, hugging salarians (possibly mordin, kirrahe). a close up on a smiling jack's face. a geth hi-fives a quarian...

Modifié par webrakefornobody, 30 mars 2012 - 06:32 .

[Promchek]

put a pack of C4 on a red tube to create a red colored explosion, call Normandy to pick her up and spend rest ov the evening watching all the nice colors from far away sipping martinis with Liara and Tali through emergency induction port

Modifié par Promchek, 30 mars 2012 - 06:35 .

[Mr Deathbot]

I would open up a black hole, shoot out a window have space child sucked into the black hole because not even light can escape it. Then use Space Magic to keep to citadel, me, the fleets, the reapers ,and everyone one else from being sucked in. Now I call the Normandy to come land as close to citadel tower as they can then tell them to send a shuttle to my location ( of course they could pick up my location via my radio frequency )
Then I start to disprove Star Child. Like I'm not PART synthetic I'm a freaking CYBORG because I'm both ORGANIC and SYNTHETIC. IDK if that's the exact definition of a cyborg but you get the point, "Destroy" option shouldn't kill Shepard because he is a cyborg NOT synthetic,

Now I use some space magic to make Geth unable to die by the crucible OR multicolored blasts of space magic ( I'll do the same with EDI also ) then I stand as far away as possible from the "Destroy" tube and shoot the hell out of it after it starts exploding i get to the shuttle wich takes me to the Normandy before the citadel explodes and then the reapers all die OH WAIT right in the nick of time I use Space Magic to keep the relays from being destroyed so then everybody lives happily ever after    If  Bioware can use Space Magic to explain 99% of the Ending why can't I?

Modifié par Mr Deathbot, 30 mars 2012 - 06:33 .

[xsdob]

Here's the thing though, we have never had a choice in what endings we got, not even in mass effect 2.

You can die in mass effect 2, you can also get less than 1750 ems and fail to stop the reapers, and end up blowing up the earth in the process. Dieing in ME2 was more like you intentionally getting the worst result just to see what would happen. You always have to either destroy the base completely, or give it to the illusive man. In ME1, your choices aren't even factored into the ending, you still have to either save or kill the council, you can't have both a large alliance fleet and save the council if you did all the main and side quest exactly right.

In fact, in all the endings of all the mass effect games, the only thing your choice at the final battle can even dictate is what color the shot before the ending credits is, that's about it and a slight tweak in cut scenes for 2, though mass effect 1 at least played out a different cutscene before we saw the different color shot.

But I digress, the question op proposed was what my shepard would have done if he had free will. Well, fist off, in the first game, I would have had a camera on my body armor so that the council couldn't drag it's ass about the reaper threat having no proof.

In the second game, I would have sent the alliances of all the data collected on the collectors before going in to stop them, and all the data I recovered on the reapers so that they would have prepared.

I would have punched udina for thinking of making a human lead council, I would have sent the alliance detailed reports of my encounters with the illusive man as well as a detailed description so they knew who to look out for. I would have probably done a lot more to gather proof about the reapers than just do nothing but rant about how "the reapers are coming!" like some demented paul revere wannabe.

But as far as the endings, I probably would have just asked more questions before making my decisions, gotten the AI to elaborate more than just the single sentence explanation. Also, I would have radioed hacket about what was about to happen.

[D1ck1e]

Sc2mashimaro wrote...

Shepard: Hackett, Normandy, come in.

Joker: Shepard! You're alive!

Hackett: I thought we lost you. Are you still on the Citadel? Can you fire the Crucible?

Shepard: Admiral, the Crucible is a Reaper trap. We can't win using it.

The Catalyst child dissapears in a huff - it's on the Reaper's side, after all.

Hackett: We can't win fighting them head on, we have to retreat.

Shepard: No, I have an idea. The Crucible has an active AI that apparently can control the Reapers, if we can reprogram it we might have a shot.

Hackett: That sounds incredibly risky. How would you do that?

Shepard: EDI, we're going to need your help.

EDI: Shepard?

Joker: No. No way.

Shepard: Joker who do you have on board?

Joker: Not EDI, Shepard.

EDI: It's okay, Joker. No one else can do this.

Shepard: Joker, who do you have with you?

Joker: (reluctantly) Everyone except [insert squad members who made run at the beam with Shepard here].

[Shepard Chooses his squad - EDI is not a choice (she runs a parallel mission) - and, honestly, the ME2 members who are still alive should be available squad choices here BECAUSE I SAY SO ;) - the other members will be involved too and (if they survived on Earth) the other two squadies show up later in the mission ]

The Normandy swoops around to drop the squad off and EDI. As EDI leaves the Normandy, Joker stands in the doorway.

EDI: (turning to Joker) Jeffery.

Joker: Yeah?

EDI: I love you.

Joker: Just come back.

[mission start: Fight through Reapers to find a console where EDI can upload a virus based on the fragments of Reaper code - she eventually has to upload herself into the computer to fight the AI. She "dies" - but, happy ending, turns out her consciousness survives on the Normandy. She'll need a new body though - but I'm sure Joker will be more than happy to work with her about that. The fight through the Citadel should resemble something of a cross between LotSB and the Suicide Mission involving all squad mates who are alive from ME1 and 2.]

The end.

Yup, that's a win.

Shepard's faith in a AI is a major F*** You to the Reaper logic, which I think is awesome.

[Carlthestrange]

xsdob wrote...Here's the thing though, we have never had a choice in what endings we got, not even in mass effect 2. 

Wrong. The final scene could be different depending on who survived the suicide mission. Saving all your team mates & the crew gained you a completely different ending scene to the other ending.

There was a different scene too, if Shepard died.

[ChuckNorris18]

Call for a normandy pick up, and blast away the generator to get the destroy ending.
Also laugh as the space child dies along with all the reapers.

[webrakefornobody]

D1ck1e wrote...

Sc2mashimaro wrote...

Shepard: Hackett, Normandy, come in.

Joker: Shepard! You're alive!

Hackett: I thought we lost you. Are you still on the Citadel? Can you fire the Crucible?

Shepard: Admiral, the Crucible is a Reaper trap. We can't win using it.

The Catalyst child dissapears in a huff - it's on the Reaper's side, after all.

[...]

[mission start: Fight through Reapers to find a console where EDI can upload a virus based on the fragments of Reaper code - she eventually has to upload herself into the computer to fight the AI. She "dies" - but, happy ending, turns out her consciousness survives on the Normandy. She'll need a new body though - but I'm sure Joker will be more than happy to work with her about that. The fight through the Citadel should resemble something of a cross between LotSB and the Suicide Mission involving all squad mates who are alive from ME1 and 2.]

The end.

Yup, that's a win.

Shepard's faith in a AI is a major F*** You to the Reaper logic, which I think is awesome.

agreed.

Modifié par webrakefornobody, 30 mars 2012 - 06:40 .

[xsdob]

Carlthestrange wrote...

xsdob wrote...Here's the thing though, we have never had a choice in what endings we got, not even in mass effect 2. 

Wrong. The final scene could be different depending on who survived the suicide mission. Saving all your team mates & the crew gained you a completely different ending scene to the other ending.

There was a different scene too, if Shepard died.

Read the rest of what I wrote on ME2, basically, you have to intentionally screw up on who you pick and what loyalty mission you didn't do to get a different ending

[Untold]

I'd point out that war between races happens. It happened with the humans and the turians and with the quarians and the geth, but hey, we worked out a peace if only a temporary one. Hey, wars happen and peace follows.

If he wouldn't see reason at that point I would then call Joker (hey if IT isn't true the radios are working) to pick me up and instruct him that the Citadel is the catalyst that created the reaper threat and instruct him to blast it into a fine lathered paste.

Maybe that would end the reaper's all together. If not, I would have my fleet take its chances fighting the reapers to the last. Even if we all die it's a better outcome than the Rainbow Bright ending.

Modifié par Untold, 30 mars 2012 - 06:41 .

[Troglyte]

In Star Trek when ever Kirk had to deal with an ancient evil machine he'd manage to "talk it to death." Star Trek which was created by Gene Roddenberry, Roddenberry had two thoughts on meeting "god", god is either a child or crazy. Well done BW on picking choice number 1. But let's go the full on Roddenbury and make a synthesis of both shall we?

Shepard: You are lying.
God Kid: What?
Shpeard: We already know about the dark matter problem.
God Kid: What?
Shepard: Tell him all about it Tali. (Technobabble follows, explaining how darkmatter is the real danger and that God Kid's story about synthetic life and organic life is all just a ruse. And we are not falling for it.)
God Kid: What?
Shepard: So we aren't falling for you three choices lie and doing your dirty work for you this cycle.
God Kid: What?
Shepard: Shepard to Normandy, we found the stations artificial intelegence and it seems to have lost its mind, get EDI over here asap we need to replace this thing stop the reapers and fix the dark matter  problem. NOW!
God Kid: What? Wait don't unplug tha...

Final cut scene plays, A longing but uplifting song plays in a very nonehuman voice with one reconizable word "Shepard". Joker deftly fly's the Normandy between space debri that is cleary destroyed reapers. As he lands a small but very elegant very modern house can be seen.

As the camera zooms on to the home the door opens and Tali steps through with no mask and says a single word "Shepard" cut scene ends. A series of still pictures begins a slide show with the narator explaining how your actions have changed the lives of those closest to him/her and the worlds/races.

[Vigil_N7]

AshenSugar wrote...

xsdob wrote...

So basically, everyone's choice is to say "screw you" to the star child and die from blood loss. Wow, great plan.

Awakening reveals that the destruction of even one Mass Relay can effectively destroy an entire system, potentially leading to the death of billions.

Ipso facto, destroying them all would lead to uncounted megatrillions of deaths... gigadeath crime (to coin a Frank Herbert phrase), as we have no reason to believe that the the scenario would be any different if the Relays were destroyed as a result of Shepard's choices.

If given a choice between galactic genocide, or his own death.. then yes, absolutely, my Shepard would choose to die from blood loss. But beyond that, surely refusing to submit to the enemy, and do their bidding is a far nobler, and braver course of action than submitting purely to save one's own skin?

Genocide is going to happen either way. If shepard does not intervene, the reapers will once again succeed in harvesting the galaxy. Who is to know whether or not the next cycle will be able to stop the reapers? Or the one after that? 

I'm surprised so many people would allow the cycle to continue just so that Shepard can die with his pride in tact. 

[Carlthestrange]

xsdob wrote...

Read the rest of what I wrote on ME2, basically, you have to intentionally screw up on who you pick and what loyalty mission you didn't do to get a different ending

I lost 2 crew on my first run. Because I didn't rely on walkthroughs to finish it. Perhaps if others did too, they would see the different endings. Point remains, there are different endings for ME2.

[xsdob]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

AshenSugar wrote...

xsdob wrote...

So basically, everyone's choice is to say "screw you" to the star child and die from blood loss. Wow, great plan.

Awakening reveals that the destruction of even one Mass Relay can effectively destroy an entire system, potentially leading to the death of billions.

Ipso facto, destroying them all would lead to uncounted megatrillions of deaths... gigadeath crime (to coin a Frank Herbert phrase), as we have no reason to believe that the the scenario would be any different if the Relays were destroyed as a result of Shepard's choices.

If given a choice between galactic genocide, or his own death.. then yes, absolutely, my Shepard would choose to die from blood loss. But beyond that, surely refusing to submit to the enemy, and do their bidding is a far nobler, and braver course of action than submitting purely to save one's own skin?

Genocide is going to happen either way. If shepard does not intervene, the reapers will once again succeed in harvesting the galaxy. Who is to know whether or not the next cycle will be able to stop the reapers? Or the one after that? 

I'm surprised so many people would allow the cycle to continue just so that Shepard can die with his pride in tact. 

Exactley

[Tleining]

After the choices given to you:
Shepard: "Shepard to uh, Legion? Geth Fleet? Anyone?
GethPrime: "Yes, Shepard-Commander, how can we help you?"
Shepard: "I need you to come up with a Virus that can destroy the Reaper Code."
GethPrime: "We do have that Ability. However, such a Virus would need to be transmitted to every Reaper in the Galaxy to be effective. Caution: Any Known Method of Delivery would also cause the Virus to infect the Geth."
Shepard: "Oh, i think i can take care of that."
GethPrime: "Understood. ....Transmitting Virus to your Omni-Tool now."
Starchild: "Wait. You can't! You have three choices. You have to pick one of them!"
Shepard: "Or i can do something chaotic and hope to destroy your Order and twisted Logic without sacrificing my Soul. *sigh* i just hope this works"
Goes to the two Sticks that would lead to the Control-Ending and uploads Virus into the Device.

Citadel, Relay Network and Reapers are affected by the Virus and shut down. Without Energy, the Citadel is getting pulled down towards Earth.

That's what my Shepard would have done. Pretty much Plothole-Logic but wouldn't be the first time.
Based on War Assets the Fleet would then have either been able to prevent the Citadel from impacting with Earth, or would have had to destroy it, or would have been unable to do anything....