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[Wowlock]

Shep : Who are you ?
God-Child : I am the catalyst
Shep : The heck ? HEY HARBINGER, DID YOU KNOW THIS CHILD IS THE KEY TO DESTROY YOU ?
Harbinger : WHAT ?! THIS HURTS YOU ! *Reaper beam*
God-child : OH SHI-...........
Shep : Joker , pick me up.

[AllThatJazz]

Sc2mashimaro wrote...

Shepard: Hackett, Normandy, come in.

Joker: Shepard! You're alive!

Hackett: I thought we lost you. Are you still on the Citadel? Can you fire the Crucible?

Shepard: Admiral, the Crucible is a Reaper trap. We can't win using it.

The Catalyst child dissapears in a huff - it's on the Reaper's side, after all.

Hackett: We can't win fighting them head on, we have to retreat.

Shepard: No, I have an idea. The Crucible has an active AI that apparently can control the Reapers, if we can reprogram it we might have a shot.

Hackett: That sounds incredibly risky. How would you do that?

Shepard: EDI, we're going to need your help.

EDI: Shepard?

Joker: No. No way.

Shepard: Joker who do you have on board?

Joker: Not EDI, Shepard.

EDI: It's okay, Joker. No one else can do this.

Shepard: Joker, who do you have with you?

Joker: (reluctantly) Everyone except [insert squad members who made run at the beam with Shepard here].

[Shepard Chooses his squad - EDI is not a choice (she runs a parallel mission) - and, honestly, the ME2 members who are still alive should be available squad choices here BECAUSE I SAY SO ;) - the other members will be involved too and (if they survived on Earth) the other two squadies show up later in the mission ]

The Normandy swoops around to drop the squad off and EDI. As EDI leaves the Normandy, Joker stands in the doorway.

EDI: (turning to Joker) Jeffery.

Joker: Yeah?

EDI: I love you.

Joker: Just come back.

[mission start: Fight through Reapers to find a console where EDI can upload a virus based on the fragments of Reaper code - she eventually has to upload herself into the computer to fight the AI. She "dies" - but, happy ending, turns out her consciousness survives on the Normandy. She'll need a new body though - but I'm sure Joker will be more than happy to work with her about that. The fight through the Citadel should resemble something of a cross between LotSB and the Suicide Mission involving all squad mates who are alive from ME1 and 2.]

The end.

Okay, sod Indoctrination Theory, this is the new ending to the game.

[Comsky159]

When my Shepard encountered the Star Child, he would have just laughed and laughed at how incredibly contrived the situation was.

The end.

[SimKoning]

I would use the Crucible's control option.. why?

1. The fleets would eventually be destroyed. The Reapers might take some losses, but it takes 4 of the most powerful Alliance ships just to stand a chance against one Reaper. All we see when the Crucible fires is debris and intact Reapers, so this seems to be visually confirmed in game.

2. Even if the citadel is destroyed, there is no reason to think it would do anything accept ****** off the Reapers. The Catalyst seems to have been dormant since ME1 and through most of 3. Harbinger seems to be quite capable of leading the reapers without the Catalyst's help.

3. The Citadel, being a huge mass relay/starship/super reaper might be virtually indestructible.

4. Galactic civilization would survive without the relays thanks to standard FTL technology.

5. I would already know that the Crucible is a giant super weapon meant to stop the Reapers, might as well use the thing.

Modifié par SimKoning, 31 mars 2012 - 12:36 .

[Chipaway111]

Punt that annoying twit into orbit above Earth, preferably using biotics.

[aimlessgun]

If the starchild refused any attempts at conversation, you'd have some time to get a tech team down to you and the starchild, and figure out what the hell he is and how he's affecting the crucible. Then see if you can hack the crucible and change the options. I assume that at least some of the people who built the crucible were brought with the fleet in case something went wrong.

[PorcelynDoll]

I wanted to pick that brat up and throw it over the side like Darth Vader did to the Emperor.

[MakeMineMako]

Tell the Star Brat that he is wrong, and find another option. That's what Commander Shepard does, along with beating the odds.

[Aurora313]

Pointed out each contradiction one after another, shoot the child in the head symbolically, radio for a new set of gear and for a pick up from the Normandy. Get a quick patch job and go back into the fight.

In my Shepard's words:
 
'You fear synthetics will destroy us, so you create glorified harvesters to kill us anyway? You're contradicting yourself. Who in hell gave you the right to judge us? So what if our creations eventually turn against us? It's our mistake, and we'll own it. You're just machines programed to kill indiscrimately. And I've had enough of your sanctimonious bullsh!t...

Modifié par Aurora313, 31 mars 2012 - 12:48 .

[FOX216BC]

  Star Brat tells my Shepard what options he has.Shepard answer: I should go.:mellow:Star Brat reaction.

[Chaoswind]

I would explain how i managed to get peace with the geth, and how i managed to get both EDI and the Geth to embrace the concepts of altruism and to seek a purpose beyond what is programmed into them, using the humans as an example of doing things against our programming.

If that doesn't work then I would have asked what would happen if the citadel where to disappear, and if that would ultimately kill him and the will of the reapers, then I would had told the fleets to detonate the crucible+citadel in such a way that the arrival relay would be short.

That would had taken the sol system out and most of the reaper fleet.

And I would had told the fleet to evacuate before the explosion, I would had escaped because my crew would had evacuated me on time to get the **** out before the explosion.

[Iakus]

AshenSugar wrote...

Let's imagine your Shepard was standing, facing 'Star Child', he'd been given those free nihilistic choices....

... Only this time, the boundaries and limitations of the game had been removed and you were free to act as you saw fit, according to his character.


In my own situation, Shepard would have basically told 'Star Child' to, "go to hell" in regard to destroying all Synthetics, and the Mass Relays, refusing to compromise until another way had been revealed.

He'd have interrogated Star Child, trying to find answers...and if Star KId refused to comply, he'd  probably have ignored the trap of the three choices, and just radioed the fleet with an order to push forward the attack and blow The Reapers to hell with everything they had!

Even if it resulted in utter defeat, it may at very least, have lessened the Reapers' numbers, and bought time for the rest of the galaxy.

Under no circumstances would he have accepted any scenario in which all Mass Effect relays were destroyed, nor would he have blindly taken 'Star Child's explanation on pure faith, and accepted the three solutions as the only solutions.

Get the hell out of our galaxy!

[Revelo]

Aurora313 wrote...

Pointed out each contradiction one after another, shoot the child in the head symbolically, radio for a new set of gear and for a pick up from the Normandy. Get a quick patch job and go back into the fight.

In my Shepard's words:
 
'You fear synthetics will destroy us, so you create glorified harvesters to kill us anyway? You're contradicting yourself. Who in hell gave you the right to judge us? So what if our creations eventually turn against us? It's our mistake, and we'll own it. You're just machines programed to kill indiscrimately. And I've had enough of your sanctimonious bullsh!t...

Everything quoted above, I even read the speech in Shepards voice. <3


My Shepard would have done the same thing. He would have shut that child up about his idoitic notions about Organics and Synthetics by pointing out to him the relationship between EDI and Joker, by mentioning the conclusion of the war between the Quarians and Geth, by giving that great speech above pointing out the hypocrasy and contraditctions above. Finally saying about the need for free will and being able to make our own decisions. He would not have been forced to pick between those free endings and demanded the destruction of the Reapers without any compromise, finishing with the request to get the hell out and leave us to our own lives.

Because making games based off player driven narrative and inputs, then removing all that for the conclusion in place of a few simliar endings is a stupid move. 

Modifié par Revelo, 31 mars 2012 - 01:09 .

[CroGamer002]

Starchild: Created will always rebel against their creators.
Shepard: Eeeeeh, geth never rebeled against quarains.
Starchild: But they killed billions of them.
Shepard: Because quarians forced their hand and then let them leave.
Starchild: ...
Shepard: Also, you control Reapers for billions of years. Did they ever rebelled against you?
Starchild: ...
Shepard: Do you even contro-
Starchild: SHUT UP!!! JUST PICK THE DAMN COLOR!
Shepard: ...

[nicksmi56]

Realized that with these choices, the Crucible was NOT an option. Sat and watched as the fleet he amassed attacks the Reapers in one last fight, with cutscenes of his different allies and the Normandy risking their lives to put an end to the threat. Contrary to some beliefs, the Reapers CAN be beaten conventiobally

[Ariaya]

MakeMineMako wrote...


Tell the Star Brat that he is wrong, and find another option. That's what Commander Shepard does, along with beating the odds.

This.  So very much this.

[CroGamer002]

nicksmi56 wrote...

Realized that with these choices, the Crucible was NOT an option. Sat and watched as the fleet he amassed attacks the Reapers in one last fight, with cutscenes of his different allies and the Normandy risking their lives to put an end to the threat. Contrary to some beliefs, the Reapers CAN be beaten conventiobally

Sorry, but Sovereign alone managed to almost completely obliterate Citadel Defense Fleet and 5th Alliance Fleet.

And there's an entire legion of Reapers on Earth.

No way in hell we can beat them conventionally.

At best Reapers will win Pyrrhic victory.

Modifié par Mesina2, 31 mars 2012 - 01:23 .

[OhoniX]

My Shepard did have free will, she just had  limited options under the circumstances. If you don't want to pick one of the three options offered, you're also free to wait a bit and the Crucible gets blown up, dooming the universe. That's option D. Basically every other option available is option D.

S:Yo Hackett you still there?
H: Aye.
S: I've located the Reaper's
leader, would you be so kind to send a shuttle to pick me up and synch
all the fleets weaponry on this location.
H: Sure...

Destroying the Citadel wouldn't have slowed the Reapers down. The Catalyst wasn't thier leader, he was just an old AI.

Contrary to some beliefs, the Reapers CAN be beaten conventiobally

No, they can't. The game tells you this repeatedly. Every character in the game knows this for a fact. They are too numerous and far too tough. There is absolutely no hope whatsoever of beating them using conventional means. It'd be like cavemen verses WWII Panzer divisions.

Modifié par OhoniX, 31 mars 2012 - 01:26 .

[PnXMarcin1PL]

I wont write much but my Shepard would destroy the Reapers without sacrificing Mass Relay Network.
Although the actual ending is not clear and definetly shows pyrric victory.

[PaulRodney]

Honestly, going through all that **** with the reapers, i would of died peacefully by suicide

[nicksmi56]

Mesina2 wrote...

nicksmi56 wrote...

Realized that with these choices, the Crucible was NOT an option. Sat and watched as the fleet he amassed attacks the Reapers in one last fight, with cutscenes of his different allies and the Normandy risking their lives to put an end to the threat. Contrary to some beliefs, the Reapers CAN be beaten conventiobally

Sorry, but Sovereign alone managed to almost completely obliterate Citadel Defense Fleet and 5th Alliance Fleet.

And there's an entire legion of Reapers on Earth.

No way in hell we can beat them conventionally.

At best Reapers will win Pyrrhic victory.

Sovereign had the Geth fleet backing him up. And does anyone remember Rannoch?

[Kalas82]

My Shepard whould`ve given him the Spock-eyebrow,
asked :"seriously?"
and then he would`ve put his unlimited-ammo-handgun to good use.

calling Joker and then watching the reapers got blown apart by those ugly thanix-cannons and the massive fleet you get with a high ems are just the mandatory last two points.

I guess Sheps first reaction after hearing Star-God`s crazy-speech would`ve been to point to the space-ship-battle in the backround and tellin him that he`s not on the winning side anymore.

But i liked the posts bout Masterchief`s armor..now i miss Cortana.

[Holoe4]

start questioning Star Child about all the plot holes until he gives in...

[nicksmi56]

OhoniX wrote...

My Shepard did have free will, she just had  limited options under the circumstances. If you don't want to pick one of the three options offered, you're also free to wait a bit and the Crucible gets blown up, dooming the universe. That's option D. Basically every other option available is option D.

S:Yo Hackett you still there?
H: Aye.
S: I've located the Reaper's
leader, would you be so kind to send a shuttle to pick me up and synch
all the fleets weaponry on this location.
H: Sure...

Destroying the Citadel wouldn't have slowed the Reapers down. The Catalyst wasn't thier leader, he was just an old AI.

Contrary to some beliefs, the Reapers CAN be beaten conventiobally

No, they can't. The game tells you this repeatedly. Every character in the game knows this for a fact. They are too numerous and far too tough. There is absolutely no hope whatsoever of beating them using conventional means. It'd be like cavemen verses WWII Panzer divisions.

Geth fleet helped Sovereign. Rannoch? The games show that they CAN. Also you seem to think that the three options are the only successful ones, which I do NOT believe

Modifié par nicksmi56, 31 mars 2012 - 01:36 .