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Jackal7713 wrote...

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She's a nun...they're not big on romance.

^ This. Who would really want to romance a Nun? Thats just wrong. I mean really wrong. :huh:

Justicars are more Knights/Samurai (Even she said it)
besides she obviously admires shepard and is interested so why not?

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Huyna wrote...

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So Ashley, Kaiden, Liara, Thane, Tali, Cortez, Trayor, Kelly, Jack, Garus & Jacob wasn't enough?


Yeah, Thane and Jacob ME3 romances were so uplifting and hopefull.


Ok, it was firmly established in ME2 AT THE BEGINNING WITH THANE THAT HE WAS TERMINALLY ILL IWTH NO CHANCE OF A CURE. ALL THE PEOPLE THAT CRY ABOUT HIS ROMANCE NEED OT BE QUIET, YOU KNEW HE WAS DIEING BY THE TIME ME3 WAS GONNA HAPPEN. THE SCENE WAS TASTEFUL WITH HIS DEATH AND HE DIED A HERO.

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Jessica1995 wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

She's a nun...they're not big on romance.

^ This. Who would really want to romance a Nun? Thats just wrong. I mean really wrong. :huh:

Justicars are more Knights/Samurai (Even she said it)
besides she obviously admires shepard and is interested so why not?


She explains in 2 if you press her about it why she isn't interested because she has to go back on the path of the Justicar after the suicide mission.



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I had a saved game for it too :(

Same here, I didnt go for anyone els in ME2 just the atempt at Samara hoping I could be with her in ME3. I would gladly pay for DLC if Samara could be a full LI. Have it for those who want it and saw it somewhat like this..

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I didnt write this but this is pretty much how I saw Samara.

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warlock22 wrote...

D1ck1e wrote...

I had a saved game for it too :(

Same here, I didnt go for anyone els in ME2 just the atempt at Samara hoping I could be with her in ME3. I would gladly pay for DLC if Samara could be a full LI. Have it for those who want it and saw it somewhat like this..

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I didnt write this but this is pretty much how I saw Samara.

Not to mention her and shepard wouldn't produce AY, so....GO FOR IT SAMARA!

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Well they dont know that really. Samara says that it might be because of asari parings, or the fact that shes a pure blood, so Samara and Sheperd could have AY but its really rare so yes, she should have went for Sheperd.

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The rest of HER life? I doubt Shepard would make it that far.

Anyway Samara was pretty dull to me, even with the "exciting" prospect of being married to a Knight Templar paladin whose code would command her to kill you for taking any Renegade interrupts.

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Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained.

Modifié par LystAP, 09 avril 2012 - 04:47 .


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Cuz she don't like yo sorry ayuss! You walk into an explosion you could have caused from 50 yards away, all to destroy the universe, therefore you ain't man enough...

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Optimystic_X wrote...

The rest of HER life? I doubt Shepard would make it that far.

Anyway Samara was pretty dull to me, even with the "exciting" prospect of being married to a Knight Templar paladin whose code would command her to kill you for taking any Renegade interrupts.


The same thing can be said with Liara. Sheperd wouldn't live anywhere near as long as Liara. And Samara imo is one of the best characters in ME. She is just very subtle when it comes to her emotions, but thats what makers her so interesting. She is a very deep character, just watching her handle certain situations is interesting, just like she finds yuo very interesting. And as far as not being a renegade goes... yeah you would have to be full paragon to be with her. She her self is a paragon so of corse you would have to be one as well.

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I can see the interest in Samara, but I also see the logic for not having a romance option with her.

I like the fact that some characters aren't available, and that a few even have specific preferences (whether gender, paragon/renegade, whatever). Samara's had a tough life, especially regarding her offspring, and she's dedicated herself to a warrior-monk type of code. It may be antiquated, and a little crazy, but it works for her.

Already some of the LIs weren't given a lot of attention, so do you really want another sloppy writing job just to check a box?

OTOH, I'd pay for a good DLC with her, but at this point BW is trying to crawl out of the hole it dug as it is I think we'll see more MP stuff, and maybe a retake Omega DLC, but wouldn't hold my breath for anything else. And I bet Samara is way down the priority list (as are Jack, Miranda, and other characters I'd love to see.)

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warlock22 wrote...

The same thing can be said with Liara.


Oh, I don't disagree - I was more responding to the caption on that picture.

warlock22 wrote... 

And as far as not being a renegade goes... yeah you would have to be full paragon to be with her. She her self is a paragon so of corse you would have to be one as well.


She's more extreme about it though. Kaidan is a paragon too, but he wouldn't immediately try to kill you if he saw you attack someone unarmed (like she did with Nihlus); he'd at least ask for an explanation first. And he wouldn't murder a bunch of police officers that tried to detain him for diplomatic reasons (like she would have with Officer Anaiya.) I doubt that I could live with a code that harsh.

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Optimystic_X wrote...

warlock22 wrote...

The same thing can be said with Liara.


Oh, I don't disagree - I was more responding to the caption on that picture.

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And as far as not being a renegade goes... yeah you would have to be full paragon to be with her. She her self is a paragon so of corse you would have to be one as well.


She's more extreme about it though. Kaidan is a paragon too, but he wouldn't immediately try to kill you if he saw you attack someone unarmed (like she did with Nihlus); he'd at least ask for an explanation first. And he wouldn't murder a bunch of police officers that tried to detain him for diplomatic reasons (like she would have with Officer Anaiya.) I doubt that I could live with a code that harsh.

Yeah that is true. If you were able to be with Samara she would have to lighten up with her code.  I think if you got with her she would lighten up a little bit anyway. If anything Sheperd may be able to talk her out of certain situations, (like her having to kill cops to not be detained).

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According to the Mass Effect response on their facebook page " Due to her code" so yea, enjoy that hole.


THAT'S BULL CRAP!!!!!  or they lack of exposition.  The code does not forbid it, she just won't because she believes it would interfere with her following the code, and it would be a burdon on the relationship.  It's hard enough for her to be away from her daughter/s, add a LI... so yeah.

While understand her motive, I also understand why she is not an option even though I wish she was.  I take small solace knowing that she would jump my Shep's bone if life circumstances were different.   It's also bad ass that my heroics have awed her (in regards to me busting reaper ass, not once but twice.  But actually it's three times.)

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warlock22 wrote...

Yeah that is true. If you were able to be with Samara she would have to lighten up with her code.  I think if you got with her she would lighten up a little bit anyway. If anything Sheperd may be able to talk her out of certain situations, (like her having to kill cops to not be detained).


Could you? Consider her daughters; if Falere hadn't offered to stay at the shell of a monastery, do you think Samara would have let you talk her out of suicide, or out of killing her? "The Code of the Justicar is black and white."

Her Code is all that matters to her; you will perennially come second-place to that. That's an unhealthy relationship at best, and downright dangerous at worst.

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Sometimes I meet pretty girls... but I cannot romance with them :D

I always wondering... why not? :D:D:D

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Fenrisfil wrote...

It would be interesting if you could have a Paragon only romance with Samara and a Renegade only one with Aria. Though, Samara breaks the Paragon/Renegade thing by being quick to shoot people, so perhaps it should just be mainly Paragon.

I can understand the frustration anyway, she's an interesting character and very hot. But I don't have a problem with her not being a LI option. Partially because I'm a loyal Talimancer, but also she seems to have good reasons to not be involved.

In ME2 I thought the contrast and similarities with Morinth was good. Neither is available, both seem to want it, but with Samara she has to force herself not to while with Morinth you have to be the one with the will power. Neither can have a real relationship due to who they are, but for Samara it is her Duty that stops it, while for Morinth it's her lust.


That is an awesome idea... although the thing with Morinth was similar to this.

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warlock22 wrote...

Yeah that is true. If you were able to be with Samara she would have to lighten up with her code.  I think if you got with her she would lighten up a little bit anyway. If anything Sheperd may be able to talk her out of certain situations, (like her having to kill cops to not be detained).


So basically, go against her code? Samara has said from time to time that her code is frigid and morally static. It's only until ME3 that you see Samara hesitate (presuming you did the paragon interrupt).

I suppose there on the citadel they should have made Samara a little more "loving" however there are no ME2 save flags for her (other than death/loyalty).


warlock22 wrote...

Her Code is all that matters to her; you will  perennially come second-place to that. That's an unhealthy relationship  at best, and downright dangerous at worst.

You wouldn't even come second place. The code doesn't matter to her, she is the code. From her perspective she's already dead.

The code of chavaliry is not a full-time job in which you can just quit and/or ignore.

Modifié par mad825, 09 avril 2012 - 02:26 .


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She says why not in the second game and that's what I like about her character. She's strong and will only focus on the mission at hand.

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mad825 wrote...

So basically, go against her code? Samara has said from time to time that her code is frigid and morally static. It's only until ME3 that you see Samara hesitate (presuming you did the paragon interrupt).

I suppose there on the citadel they should have made Samara a little more "loving" however there are no ME2 save flags for her (other than death/loyalty).


Actually, there is one (tiny) change if you attempted the romance in ME2 or not.


warlock22 wrote...

You wouldn't even come second place. The code doesn't matter to her, she is the code. From her perspective she's already dead.

The code of chavaliry is not a full-time job in which you can just quit and/or ignore.


Precisely. There's just no room for Shepard alongside that. She tells you as much herself.

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You have to remember that there is her code and the justicar code. The justicar code does not forbid it. She is the one who is fighting against it. And its probably because of her code, having to always be on the move. But who's to say her and Sheperd couldn't go off and fight crime across the galaxy. I know it sounds cheesy but its not out of the realm of possibility. She could also change over sometime with you, she slowly came around in ME2. Some people would say she wouldn't change and others would say it would just take some time. Imo I think it would just take some time.

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I think there is a scene in ME2 were she talks about her age very briefly and her life in general and I believe she says something like 700. And comparing asari and human ages is pretty hard seeing how technically Liara would be 10 in human years but is an adult. I also recall that asari with the salarian on Ilium in 2, who was talking about joining Eclipse and she says she's around 40 and just moved out of her parents household. Very confusing.

Liara said she was barley an adult in ME1. So bye human standerds that would mean she would be about 18 or 19 (no pun intended) not 10. In ME3 I'd say she's 21 or 22 human years.

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This right here i think is a perfect and believable romance/ ending with Samara. Just give it a chance, its not long. :)

http://collegeage.wo...mance-epilogue/

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There is a group for people who feel that Samara should have been a full LI in ME3 as well as a squadmate. If you feel the same way join up, we will fight for her!
http://social.biowar...oup/7244/#group

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Least she got some screen time. Morinth basically got a giant middle finger from bioware. Jacob as well to a lesser extent