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[AxisEvolve]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

My only criticism about the last few missions:

Ascention?

[Russalka]

The Angry One wrote...

What low blows? We're stating we don't like the ending, why we don't like the ending and if you do then whatever.

There are plenty of posts that seem to be more focused on the OP.

[The Angry One]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

As I elaborated, if you percieve it as a quality experience, fine.
But the quality of the endings from an objective point of view is not and will never be an opinion. They simply do not work.

You can "elaborate" all you want.  Just be sure to use words like "objective" and "fallacy" as much as possible.

Honestly, I'm not sure there's anything funnier than a person who has convinced himself (or herself) that his subjective opinion on an issue is objectively correct.  The sheer lack of self-awareness is absolutely hilarious.

You can throw out insults all you want. It won't change the facts.
Even BioWare employees have admitted things like the squadmate teleportation make no sense, in an attempt to drum up support for the supposed "clarification" I'm sure.
But hey you know what? If an ending is so nonsensical and vague that it requires an explanation, then IT HAS FAILED.

[The Angry One]

Russalka wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

What low blows? We're stating we don't like the ending, why we don't like the ending and if you do then whatever.

There are plenty of posts that seem to be more focused on the OP.

They're focused on the fact that the topic title begins with "Hate me" and thus seems for all the world like troll bait.

[Chernaya]

Wow, I hate you so much.

...Are you getting enough attention yet, or should I hate you more?

[AxisEvolve]

The Angry One wrote...
- You are required to adhere to the logic of the game universe as presented in the codex, history and in game events.

I agree with you.

It's fine for someone to like the ending, but how else can you enjoy it without being blissfully ignorant about the dozens of inconsistencies?

The only way to like it is to... not think about it. I don't think it's possible to enjoy that many plotholes and contradactions unless you simply ignore them all. 

[Pelle6666]

I am not a spiritual person. To me Mass Effect was a great Sci-Fi adventure witch took the genre of rpgs another step forward. The story is amazing and the characters are brilliant, what I took away from the trilogy was how influential one person can be with the right help and resources and that no threat or difference is too big to overcome.
Too bad that the lead writer and the producer decided to through these morals overboard to make room for the Jesus parallel they wanted to crowbar into the last five minutes!
Up until the final dialog and cut scene I can agree with you, the game gives you a new way of looking at the world but the only thing I can see now is a complete failure!

The only thing the stargazer scene is promising is that dlc is coming and of cause it is! They even spelled it out for us! But unless they give us an ending that is worthy of the series and of us, the fans and all the characters that got screwed over in the current endings, I won’t buy **** from them!

[OozesAwesome]

I have to agree. I have come to love the ending. I hated it when I first finished, but the indoctrination trick is just brilliant.

You really have to analyse the endings before it makes sense. Please Bioware don't alter this ending. Just build from it, which is what I believe you've Intended to do from the beginning.

The ending is beautiful, the music, the memory of Joker, Anderson, and Shepherd's love interest. The determination on Shepherd's face as he/she lays bullets into the power conduit. Essentially telling the Reapers to go to hell. If you made the right choice, the most important choice in the entire series.

I have replayed the ending over and over because it has grown on me so much.

If the indoctrination theory is correct, and I'm 99.9% sure it is, this ending is brilliant. My real only complaint is that Bioware should have let the game continue, and that the final ending was held back as DLC. But on this point I believe EA had the most influence on that decision.

I think in a few weeks/months a majority of players will be blown away by how this plays out, as long as Bioware sticks to their original plan and gives us Shepherd back from the rubble.

Modifié par OozesAwesome, 30 mars 2012 - 10:51 .

[DESSYX]

METALPUNKS wrote...

I don't think I need to waste a half hour and explain exactly why I loved it, I did and that's that.

I've seen video reviews of the Mass Effect 3 ending that are less than half an hour, and in that time they manage to explain every factual reason why the ending is bad.

It's not that you're wrong just because you like the ending, it's that you claim it's "perfect" and provide no evidence to support it. If you can support what you say with evidence from the game and show us that this is the most appropriate ending we could have gotten, I think you'd become the most popular person here. Unfortunately there's no way to do that because it's simply not possible.

So grats on feeling the way you do, people can bash you all they want but in the long run you'll be better off, not suffering the disappointment that the rest of us feel.

[Apocsapel91]

I don't hate you, I pity you.

Apocsapel91 out.

[CaliGuy033]

The Angry One wrote...

You can throw out insults all you want. It won't change the facts.
Even BioWare employees have admitted things like the squadmate teleportation make no sense, in an attempt to drum up support for the supposed "clarification" I'm sure.
But hey you know what? If an ending is so nonsensical and vague that it requires an explanation, then IT HAS FAILED.

You've gotta stop.  Seriously.  You're cracking me up.   I'm starting to think that you're doing a bit.  (If so, well done.  You had me going there.)

[Lo Chiamavano Bulldozer]

Happy for you.

For me, the ending is horrible for all the reasons already said on this forum.

I hope the'll do a dlc so you can keep your ending and i can have an ending with at least some sense(i'm hoping the dlc ending will be better than the actual).

[Geneaux486]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

You can throw out insults all you want. It won't change the facts.
Even BioWare employees have admitted things like the squadmate teleportation make no sense, in an attempt to drum up support for the supposed "clarification" I'm sure.
But hey you know what? If an ending is so nonsensical and vague that it requires an explanation, then IT HAS FAILED.

You've gotta stop.  Seriously.  You're cracking me up.   I'm starting to think that you're doing a bit.  (If so, well done.  You had me going there.)

Really the idea of anyone saying "My view on this subject is objectively true and eveyrone else's view is subjective" is pretty amusing/horrifying.


OP, I liked the ending just fine.

Modifié par Geneaux486, 30 mars 2012 - 10:54 .

[Midarc2nd]

Not gonna hate you op.
Not gonna agree with you either.
Glad you enjoyed it all the same.
Hope I get an ending I like in the future.

[Russalka]

Apocsapel91 wrote...

I don't hate you, I pity you.

Apocsapel91 out.

I like your signature.

[RogueBot]

The Angry One wrote...


If an ending is so nonsensical and vague that it requires an explanation, then IT HAS FAILED.

Which is why Bioware will FIND ANOTHER WAY.

[The Angry One]

Geneaux486 wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

You can throw out insults all you want. It won't change the facts.
Even BioWare employees have admitted things like the squadmate teleportation make no sense, in an attempt to drum up support for the supposed "clarification" I'm sure.
But hey you know what? If an ending is so nonsensical and vague that it requires an explanation, then IT HAS FAILED.

You've gotta stop.  Seriously.  You're cracking me up.   I'm starting to think that you're doing a bit.  (If so, well done.  You had me going there.)

Really the idea of anyone saying "My view on this subject is objectively true and eveyrone else's view is subjective" is pretty amusing/horrifying.


OP, I liked the ending just fine.

Interesting, because I did not say my view. My view is I hate the ending. That is not objective truth, that is opinion.
That the ending makes zero sense is objective truth, tacitly admitted by BioWare.

I have been clear and distinct about the difference between opinion and fact, I ask you both do the same.

[Narayan23]

OozesAwesome wrote...

I have to agree. I have come to love the ending. I hated it when I first finished, but the indoctrination trick is just brilliant.

You really have to analyse the endings before it makes sense. Please Bioware don't alter this ending. Just build from it, which is what I believe you've Intended to do from the beginning.

The ending is beautiful, the music, the memory of Joker, Anderson, and Shepherd's love interest. The determination on Shepherd's face as he/she lays bullets into the power conduit. Essentially telling the Reapers to go to hell. If you made the right choice, the most important choice in the entire series.

I have replayed the ending over and over because it has grown on me so much.

If the indoctrination theory is correct, and I'm 99.9% sure it is, this ending is brilliant. My real only complaint is that Bioware should have let the game continue, and that the final ending was held back as DLC. But on this point I believe EA had the most influence on that decision.

I think in a few weeks/months a majority of players will be blown away by how this plays out, as long as Bioware sticks to their original plan and gives us Shepherd back from the rubble.

How is it brilliant if they charge us for it they basicly ripped the ending out of the game that would be terrible, what's next selling a game for 60 dollars with half of the game missing

[xxLDZxx]

Nice I am jellos i don't like the ending.

But a little advice when you put more creativity in your title like this as a example:

"Dr. Strangeend or: How I Learned to Stop raging and Love the End"

This is a much better thread title than yours, much more ppl would come look what you want.
You know more clicks and responses.

[Hydralysk]

We don't hate you if you liked the ending. We'd only hate it if you say we have no right to an ending that we like despite the fact that you wouldn't be impacted at all by it.

[cyborgchris]

why should anyone hate you cos you liked the endings anyway, OP?

I sure don't

you were ok with what was presented to you and I can respect that

[Dr. rotinaj]

There's nothing awesome about the ending, it's terrible. The ending is so rushed and nonsensical that it can be objectively labelled as a bad conclusion to the trilogy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.

Modifié par Dr. rotinaj, 30 mars 2012 - 11:16 .

[Geneaux486]

The Angry One wrote...
Interesting, because I did not say my view. My view is I hate the ending. That is not objective truth, that is opinion.
That the ending makes zero sense is objective truth, tacitly admitted by BioWare.

I have been clear and distinct about the difference between opinion and fact, I ask you both do the same.

I'm not getting into this with you.  I've seen the things you've posted here.  A lot.  You continually argue that the endings are objectively bad, which is false.  Long as you keep doing that, you and I have nothing to say to one another.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

why would I hate you op, I just think the ends are awful and very unfinished

[The Angry One]

Geneaux486 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
Interesting, because I did not say my view. My view is I hate the ending. That is not objective truth, that is opinion.
That the ending makes zero sense is objective truth, tacitly admitted by BioWare.

I have been clear and distinct about the difference between opinion and fact, I ask you both do the same.

I'm not getting into this with you.  I've seen the things you've posted here.  A lot.  You continually argue that the endings are objectively bad, which is false.  Long as you keep doing that, you and I have nothing to say to one another.

I notice you don't say why. Don't drag other topics into here. If you have something to say, say it.
The endings make no sense. This is a fact. They are objectively bad because they make no sense. An proper ending does not leave everything up in the air after a storyline that consistently shows choices and consequences for most events.