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[MrNighttime]

In truth I'm glad you liked it OP, I really am. I thought it sucked---but hey opinions vary and that makes life interesting.

[MrNighttime]

darthnick427 wrote...

 

Ok now that's funny!!

[Machazareel]

That the endings were badly written, on a purely academic level, as in, lacking in adherence to how the structure of a story is supposed to be built, is indeed a fact. Very few works can break these rules and get away with it, and as evidenced by fan reactions, literary journals, and other writers, the writers didn't get away with it here. That they contain plotholes is a fact. People are allowed to like them, though, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'm glad people are able to overlook things like this and still appreciate what's there. I can't, though, but that's my own problem.

[Romudeth]

I envy you. I wish I loved the ending too.

[METALPUNKS]

XTR3M3 wrote...

*sees only ME3 registered and thinks they probably didn't play 1 or 2 given their opinion*

Wow I really can't love the ending just because. It won't let me register for some reason. I never got to play ME1(due to ps3). I did however played two and now three. I did the stupid comic coming into ME2 but I thought that wasn't enough so I stopped the game and watched two days worth of videos. I watched let's plays and ME in 5 minutes. I did my research. I am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are. In fact I think I have a damn good hold on what is going on considering for the last 5 weeks all I played was ME2 and 3. I spent 100 hours with one character on ME2, not missing a single thing, I took my time enjoying every moment. Now another 65 hours with ME3 doing the same things. After every mission talking with everyone, reading the codex while playing an on my app when I wasn't home. I wanted to know everything about it, I was addicted. So I think it's an advantage since its so fresh in my head right now. 


Next time you should not assume something like that. It's wrong and doesn't give the person a fair shot. I had just as much of a connection with the characters as someone who had been playing for 5 years. I cried when mordin died! Who didn't? Lol sorta. 

[Theb82]

I wonder if Eidos would have a claim at BW for ripping off their ending

[The Angry One]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Agreed, the ending was phenomenal. It's good to see more people are finally speaking out. For a while, it was nothing but angry whiners on these forums claiming anyone who liked the ending was a troll, idiot, or hates mass effect. They are so ignorant its unbelievable.

Oh look, insults upon insults.
And yeah, "phenomenal". Sure.

[Theb82]

METALPUNKS wrote...

XTR3M3 wrote...

*sees only ME3 registered and thinks they probably didn't play 1 or 2 given their opinion*

Wow I really can't love the ending just because. It won't let me register for some reason. I never got to play ME1(due to ps3). I did however played two and now three. I did the stupid comic coming into ME2 but I thought that wasn't enough so I stopped the game and watched two days worth of videos. I watched let's plays and ME in 5 minutes. I did my research. I am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are. In fact I think I have a damn good hold on what is going on considering for the last 5 weeks all I played was ME2 and 3. I spent 100 hours with one character on ME2, not missing a single thing, I took my time enjoying every moment. Now another 65 hours with ME3 doing the same things. After every mission talking with everyone, reading the codex while playing an on my app when I wasn't home. I wanted to know everything about it, I was addicted. So I think it's an advantage since its so fresh in my head right now. 


Next time you should not assume something like that. It's wrong and doesn't give the person a fair shot. I had just as much of a connection with the characters as someone who had been playing for 5 years. I cried when mordin died! Who didn't? Lol sorta. 

So you make up the perfect dream world ending in your head and think its perfect

[Asepsis]

I'm kind of jealous of you, I wish I liked the ending. However I don't like it, at all, and I feel as if the last three-four years I have invested into Mass Effect have been`thrown off a cliff and defecated on by hamsters.

[The Angry One]

Geneaux486 wrote...

If someone is saying that it is a fact that the ending is bad, and that other opinions are wrong, then yes, that is false.  Regardless of how many people say the ending is bad, it is still subjective, not objective.  It's not fact, plain and simple.

And you are YET AGAIN confusing opinion with objective fact.

It is a fact that the endings are bad. They make no sense. They run counter to the themes of Mass Effect. They introduce a new character in the final stretch with a nonsensical twist. They nullify all events in all 3 games up to that point.
They are objectively bad.

You have been given every chance to prove otherwise, and you have not.

It is your OPINION if you like it or not. You can, again, like it all you want.
It's still bad. Maybe for some arthouse storyline it would be good, but that is not ME.

Modifié par The Angry One, 31 mars 2012 - 12:34 .

[WastelanderTim]

The Angry One wrote...

Geneaux486 wrote...

If someone is saying that it is a fact that the ending is bad, and that other opinions are wrong, then yes, that is false.  Regardless of how many people say the ending is bad, it is still subjective, not objective.  It's not fact, plain and simple.

And you are YET AGAIN confusing opinion with objective fact.

It is a fact that the endings are bad. They make no sense. They run counter to the themes of Mass Effect. They introduce a new character in the final stretch with a nonsensical twist. They nullify all events in all 3 games up to that point.
They are objectively bad.

You have been given every chance to prove otherwise, and you have not.

It is your OPINION if you like it or not. You can, again, like it all you want.
It's still bad. Maybe for some arthouse storyline it would be good, but that is not ME.

This

[Dr. rotinaj]

AxisEvolve wrote...

Geneaux486 wrote...
If someone is saying that it is a fact that the ending is bad, and that other opinions are wrong, then yes, that is false.  Regardless of how many people say the ending is bad, it is still subjective, not objective.  It's not fact, plain and simple.

I'm not sure they were saying that. But saying the ending has plotholes is a fact. 

>Indoctrination theory
>Plotholes

Sorry but you have to pick one. 

I am saying that and I'll stand by my opinion. The ending, unless indoctrination theory is correct, is completely bad. Anyone that thinks the ending is good is glossing over the enormous stupidity. Unless of course they believe in the indoc theory.   

EDIT:

terdferguson123 wrote...
Agreed, the ending was phenomenal.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Modifié par Dr. rotinaj, 31 mars 2012 - 12:38 .

[METALPUNKS]

AlexXIV wrote...

Another troll post. If posts even start with 'hate me' it is clear why people post. I could only stomach to read the first two lines in the OP before I had to stop. Sry but obvious troll is obvious.

And people, learn to not be baited all the time and stop bumping the hand full of trolls with 100 answers.

Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm not trolling. I said hate me because I knew I would get a bunch of crap just for saying I loved the ending. Oh and look I did! You just can't deal with the fact some people may love the way things ended. That's your problem not mine. At this point the only thing ruining my experience is the fact that some people can't deal with it, so I guess it is my problem too now. Thanks. Please forgive me while I go enjoy another round of ME3. 

[AlexXIV]

Dr. rotinaj wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

Geneaux486 wrote...
If someone is saying that it is a fact that the ending is bad, and that other opinions are wrong, then yes, that is false.  Regardless of how many people say the ending is bad, it is still subjective, not objective.  It's not fact, plain and simple.

I'm not sure they were saying that. But saying the ending has plotholes is a fact. 

>Indoctrination theory
>Plotholes

Sorry but you have to pick one. 

I am saying that and I'll stand by my opinion. The ending, unless indoctrination theory is correct, is completely bad. Anyone that thinks the ending is good is glossing over the enormous stupidity. Unless of course they believe in the indoc theory.   

That something is bad or badly done is not subjective. It is an objective fact. That people like a bad story is entirely subjective though. There are multiple threads and posts and essays of collected facts by fans that prove that the ending is a slobby rush job. The only reason people post here to defend the ending is to defend Bioware for some reason.

[MetalCargo999]

I HATE YOU!!!!

nah isaulgood u chill.

[MrNighttime]

Asepsis wrote...

I'm kind of jealous of you, I wish I liked the ending. However I don't like it, at all, and I feel as if the last three-four years I have invested into Mass Effect have been`thrown off a cliff and defecated on by hamsters.

You are so not alone, I agree with everything you just said--I so wish I could like the ending but as time goes on I hate it more and more.

[Geneaux486]

AxisEvolve wrote...

Geneaux486 wrote...
If someone is saying that it is a fact that the ending is bad, and that other opinions are wrong, then yes, that is false.  Regardless of how many people say the ending is bad, it is still subjective, not objective.  It's not fact, plain and simple.

I'm not sure they were saying that. But saying the ending has plotholes is a fact. 

>Indoctrination theory
>Plotholes

Sorry but you have to pick one. 

Funny thing is I don't have to pick one.  The so-called "plotholes" are quite debatable, and the ending just as defendable.  This is what I'm talking about.  Yes, it is all subjective, yes, it is a matter of opinion.  The endings are not factually bad, no matter how badly you want them to be.  It's all opinion.   And why is that a bad thing?  I'm not saying your opinion isn't valid, I'm just calling it what it is.  "The way I see it is the way it is and anyone else who sees it a different way is wrong" is narrow-minded.

Modifié par Geneaux486, 31 mars 2012 - 12:47 .

[The Angry One]

Geneaux486 wrote...

Funny thing is I don't have to pick one.  The so-called "plotholes" are quite debatable, and the ending just as defendable.  This is what I'm talking about.  Yes, it is all subjective, yes, it is a matter of opinion.  The endings are not factually bad, no matter how badly you want them to be.  It's all opinion.   And why is that a bad thing?  I'm not saying your opinion isn't valid, I'm just calling it what it is.  "The way I see it is the way it is and anyone else who sees it a different way is wrong" is narrow-minded.

You keep saying that, and you never actually do it.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. If you have claims, back them up.

[Lookout1390]

I wish I had low standards

[Theb82]

Yep if I close I my eyes I can imagine that the Geth and the Quarians were able to quickly make a teleportation device from a pile of old boxes and an emergency induction port and beam my crew up to the Normandy.

[Russalka]

There is a difference between criticism and simply stomping on the joy of others.

[Machazareel]

The Angry One wrote...

Geneaux486 wrote...

Funny thing is I don't have to pick one.  The so-called "plotholes" are quite debatable, and the ending just as defendable.  This is what I'm talking about.  Yes, it is all subjective, yes, it is a matter of opinion.  The endings are not factually bad, no matter how badly you want them to be.  It's all opinion.   And why is that a bad thing?  I'm not saying your opinion isn't valid, I'm just calling it what it is.  "The way I see it is the way it is and anyone else who sees it a different way is wrong" is narrow-minded.

You keep saying that, and you never actually do it.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. If you have claims, back them up.

brb, looking up the codex entry for teleporting squadmates with the healing power of Wolverine.

[AlexXIV]

MrNighttime wrote...

Asepsis wrote...

I'm kind of jealous of you, I wish I liked the ending. However I don't like it, at all, and I feel as if the last three-four years I have invested into Mass Effect have been`thrown off a cliff and defecated on by hamsters.

You are so not alone, I agree with everything you just said--I so wish I could like the ending but as time goes on I hate it more and more.

Blah I am glad I hate the ending. Sure ruins ME for me, but at least I know I am still thinking for myself and not accepting everything some writer throws at me. I actually have the utmost respect for people protest against things that are not right. Not so much because of ME3 because there is a majority disliking the ending. I would have more respect for people who dislike the ending even though they are a minority and the majority are the hapless sheeps. However, the endings are that bad that actually even a videogaming majority cannot deny, with very few exceptions. It really shows. You know, most endings are bad and many things are wrong with video games in general and even with ME. But most people can't even be arsed to protests.
 
I know a few people here only wrote threads about how bad the writing at times is in the ME fiction. And they are actually in the minority and I can still see in their arguements that they are right. It is not even about majorities trumping minorities. It is about having a point, and actually having common sense. Which I assume most people here just don't have. I don't want to know how many people only protest against the ending because it was not happy enough and don't even understand why other people are upset with the ending because it is stupid, not because it is bitter.

[The Angry One]

Theb82 wrote...

Yep if I close I my eyes I can imagine that the Geth and the Quarians were able to quickly make a teleportation device from a pile of old boxes and an emergency induction port and beam my crew up to the Normandy.

And then they found an old blue police box, made it into a dimension ship and ferried everybody home! 

[Nicky 192]

 You liked it??? BURN!!! Seriously Op i'm glad you liked it and got some satisfaction from it. I really wanted to like it and tried very hard to do so. I have followed the series for a LONG time. I just felt dissapointed in the ending myself. But thank you for sharing your post, it's alway's good to hear other people's opinions.