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[Sgt Stryker]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...
Simple, it shows that this is a very confusing situation and not all information can be reliable all the time. Same thing happens when major disasters strike in the real world all the time.

-You'll forgive me if I dont buy into that. I accept its a plausible explenation, but I dont believe that was why it was stuck in there.

Think about it though: The Reapers have never been known to use this sort of psychological warfare. Why the sudden change? No, the more likely explanation is that these reports are simply inaccurate. The more likely scenario is that people on Taetrus managed to get images of the Reaper attack out somehow, but in all the confusion the broadcasts were mistakenly attributed to the Reapers.

[BeefoTheBold]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Reports came through of the Reapers broadcasting images of their victory at Taetrus...

-Can anyone, anyone at all, give me one logical reason why the reapers would do that?

Actually I can. That's fairly consistent with what was being done on Earth if you'll recall. They had indocrinated higher ups trying to convince the rest of earth not to resist and to give up. 

After all, even the Reapers aren't invincible and propaganda that lets people think that there can be a peaceful resolution if they surrender gracefully they might be spared is something that they've tried before. (Saren)

That aside, I agree with pretty much everyone in the thread that I'm not spending a penny on Palaven DLC until the endings are fixed. Bioware can take that DLC and shove it straight up their pooper.

[Blackmind1]

Pissed0ff wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Read the latest update from the Alliance News Network.

Can Palaven be saved?

Palaven was saved in the game... 24 days ago.  When is the face import fix coming or are you just going to keep making worthless posts?

24 days ago for you.

There are more people than you in the world.

[william.munden]

who cares anymore

[Sgt Stryker]

william.munden wrote...

who cares anymore

I do. But that's because I have rejected everything after Harbinger's appearance.

[mredders91]

BeefoTheBold wrote...

That aside, I agree with pretty much everyone in the thread that I'm not spending a penny on Palaven DLC until the endings are fixed. Bioware can take that DLC and shove it straight up their pooper.

need anymore be said

[Angel_lord]

Yeah. This is definitely pre-ending news if you read it closely. Anyone who has played through that first alien mission and listened to the dialogue will recognize the events and personalities. I'm not entirely sure it represents DLC though, as so many news articles that were not DLC came over the Cerberus network. They were just news. So I have no feelings of animosity toward some news text on a screen.

If anything I feel ambivalent toward the franchise at this moment, and I have already erased the 'ending' from the lore of the galaxy until we see what it all means

[Good_Chaos7]

I want to save Palaven, but it doesn't matter anymore, does it..

Or are you guys gonna finally change the Ending..

[Squallypo]

RACDB wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

should i even bother to look at that link?

Should you?

AAaahh!!! ummm umm the preassure   I DONT KNOW 

[BiancoAngelo7]

atheelogos wrote...

I don't see how anyone can help. Relays are gone so there is no way to get there...........

LOLOLOL

Im too lazy to do it, but this deserves a "Piccard So much win" meme:)

[Sylvianus]

I think people do not understand that it has nothing to do with endings or after....

In an emergency broadcast from an undisclosed location, Primarch Fedorian admitted it is possible Palaven’s communications with the rest of the galaxy will go dark during the fighting.

Fedorian is dead in M3, the new Primarch is Vyctus. It is just a report during M3.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 31 mars 2012 - 12:37 .

[Tocquevillain]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

Reports came through of the Reapers broadcasting images of their victory at Taetrus...

-Can anyone, anyone at all, give me one logical reason why the reapers would do that?

It would be more tactical to broadcast images of dead Turian commanders or civilians. Serving as a sign of what is to come for every organic alive.

It would show that nobody is safe, no matter who you are. A fate worst than death is coming soon.

-Thats a human talking. Not a reaper. Sorry.

Scaretactics and propaganda is only worth it when there is something to be gained. What could possibly be gained from transmitting any images at all? 

37 million years of succesfully culling the heard vs 50k years of haphazard biological evolvement. I wouldnt feel the need to waste any effort broadcasting that. It would be a waste of electricity to even consider the notion.

Wrong, wrong, and wrong.

The Reapers  don't steamroll, they have to fight. They're not invincible. That's why your odds of beating the Reapers if you complete all of ME3 and have 100% readiness and high EMS are about even, because they can be killed.

Broadcasting images simply causes fear and causes people to consider surrender. What is to be gained? It makes it easier for the Reapers to harvest them all without having to spend time and resources (and possibly losing Reaper capital ships) fighting them.

And there is indeed precedent in ME3, you just didn't play enough. One asari world surrendered because the Reapers promised an all out attack that would have killed them all, and they surrendered because they were more afraid of that then what happened afterwards (harvesting, presumably). That was from scanning the planets in Asari space.

[silverstreakusa]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Read the latest update from the Alliance News Network.

Can Palaven be saved?

all joking about the ending aside... how do you save paleven Mr Priestly? i beat the game and im at 100% readiness for next push to earth on second playthrough did i miss something? is this something recently added?

im confused:blink:

[Tocquevillain]

Sgt Stryker wrote...


Think about it though: The Reapers have never been known to use this sort of psychological warfare. Why the sudden change? No, the more likely explanation is that these reports are simply inaccurate. The more likely scenario is that people on Taetrus managed to get images of the Reaper attack out somehow, but in all the confusion the broadcasts were mistakenly attributed to the Reapers.

What evidence do you have to support your assertion they don't employ psychological warfare? There is none, you only see two Reapers prior to ME3 and they were sneaky Reapers, not an invasion force. On the other hand, there is a mountain of evidence in game that they do employ psychological warfare:

A) broadcasting images of defeat
 turning friends and family of the organics into husks to attack them, which Garrus mentioned he admired
C) the burst of digital noise they use is specifically to scare whatever they're attacking.

Modifié par Tocquevillain, 31 mars 2012 - 12:42 .

[Sgt Stryker]

silverstreakusa wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Read the latest update from the Alliance News Network.

Can Palaven be saved?

all joking about the ending aside... how do you save paleven Mr Priestly? i beat the game and im at 100% readiness for next push to earth on second playthrough did i miss something? is this something recently added?

im confused:blink:

Well, there is the Miracle of Palaven Codex entry, which results from Shepard's success at brokering an alliance between the turians and krogan. Granted, it won't bring back the dead, but there will always be casualties in a war.

[silverstreakusa]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

silverstreakusa wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Read the latest update from the Alliance News Network.

Can Palaven be saved?

all joking about the ending aside... how do you save paleven Mr Priestly? i beat the game and im at 100% readiness for next push to earth on second playthrough did i miss something? is this something recently added?

im confused:blink:

Well, there is the Miracle of Palaven Codex entry, which results from Shepard's success at brokering an alliance between the turians and krogan. Granted, it won't bring back the dead, but there will always be casualties in a war.

thats it? thats all that that post was about? i did that already its part of the main game. i thought this was something new the way they announcing it.<_<

[Squeeze the Fish]

I would love to go to Palaven...if that's what this is hinting to...but I'm just so confused. It seems like this was suppposed to have come out pre-ME3, not post-ME3 with all the other news updates about the Reaper invasion.

Also, Primarch Fedorian is dead, yes?

[disc0nnect7]

Thought the Reapers could only be destroyed via the catalyst so how are we going to take back Palaven? I'd rather take back Earth.

[silverstreakusa]

Squeeze the Fish wrote...

I would love to go to Palaven...if that's what this is hinting to...but I'm just so confused. It seems like this was suppposed to have come out pre-ME3, not post-ME3 with all the other news updates about the Reaper invasion.

Also, Primarch Fedorian is dead, yes?

It is confusing. Chris Priestly care to clarify please??

[Sgt Stryker]

Squeeze the Fish wrote...

I would love to go to Palaven...if that's what this is hinting to...but I'm just so confused. It seems like this was suppposed to have come out pre-ME3, not post-ME3 with all the other news updates about the Reaper invasion.

Also, Primarch Fedorian is dead, yes?

This is the same thing they did with Cerberus Daily News for ME2. The real-life date of each news post corresponds to the in-game date (offset by ~170 years and a couple of months, naturally). Hence, the invasion of Earth began a week or so after contact was lost with batarian space, and (as revealed here) Palaven was attacked a couple of weeks after Earth fell. I expect the next story to involve either Sur'Kesh or Tuchanka.

I think it's a pretty neat way of establishing an in-universe timeline for the Reaper War, but it seems like it's being derailed by disgruntled fans.

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 31 mars 2012 - 01:06 .

[Running Heron]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Squeeze the Fish wrote...

I would love to go to Palaven...if that's what this is hinting to...but I'm just so confused. It seems like this was suppposed to have come out pre-ME3, not post-ME3 with all the other news updates about the Reaper invasion.

Also, Primarch Fedorian is dead, yes?

This is the same thing they did with Cerberus Daily News for ME2. The real-life date of each news post corresponds to the in-game date (offset by ~170 years and a couple of months, naturally). Hence, the invasion of Earth began a week or so after contact was lost with batarian space, and (as revealed here) Palaven was attacked a couple of weeks after Earth fell. I expect the next story to involve either Sur'Kesh or Tuchanka.

I think it's a pretty neat way of establishing an in-universe timeline for the Reaper War, but it seems like it's being derailed by disgruntled fans.

And rightly so.

[Yalision]

I'm sorry Chris, but this seems irrelevant given the status of the galaxy after the end. =/ I'm still sad, yes.

[Angel_lord]

And rightly so.

Please explain to me how harping on "news broadcasts" whose method of disemination is established in ME2's Cerberus network is 'rightly so'. If it had anything at all to do with the ending, I might be more understanding of the complaining.

[Running Heron]

Angel_lord wrote...

And rightly so.

Please explain to me how harping on "news broadcasts" whose method of disemination is established in ME2's Cerberus network is 'rightly so'. If it had anything at all to do with the ending, I might be more understanding of the complaining.

Because ultimatley, the endings make all the broadcasts irrelevant.  Even though, personally I love the ANN postings, its not kosher with how the series ends.

[Sgt Stryker]

Running Heron wrote...

Angel_lord wrote...

And rightly so.

Please explain to me how harping on "news broadcasts" whose method of disemination is established in ME2's Cerberus network is 'rightly so'. If it had anything at all to do with the ending, I might be more understanding of the complaining.

Because ultimatley, the endings make all the broadcasts irrelevant.  Even though, personally I love the ANN postings, its not kosher with how the series ends.

Correction: the ending is not kosher with the rest of the franchise, including the ANN postings.

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 31 mars 2012 - 01:32 .