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[ref]

Typical, I bet if I turned off AdBlock I'd see tons of ME3 ads everywhere.

[Hexley UK]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Not really.

There are plenty of people on this forum who are quite capable of providing me with the information and their side of the story to provide a sound judgement without me having to visit some scummy integrity absent website.

Like I said, I don't want them having my click.

That is still showing an extreme bias and ignorance. If I do not like something or agree with it, I do not through an oposing opinion under the bus. You have to understand what they say and refute if neccesary. To listen to people just on the BSN network that have a large bias that you lean on does not help build a a middle ground to work on.

All well and good but the GameInformer page is not a forum so refuting them is not going to happen.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Wolven_Soul wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...


That's like me saying I killed Sovereign in 16 different ways because I used different visual effects on my monitor while watching the ending to ME1.


Sorry, but every ME game had a conclusive ending that was the same in general, different in variation. Might as well ask them to change the ending to ME2 because you either watch the base blow up in blue or red form. 

That wsa different.  They were the first two games in a trilogy.  They had to have conclusive endings otherwise they might have to make two entirely different variations of the next game.  In this game we were promised a wide variety of endings that reflected our choices.  We did not get them.  Instead we got something that they promised us we would not get, that being, a choice between A, B, C.

Yeah we were lied to plain and simple and they are still lying to us.  More people need to read this and then tell us we were not lied to.

Official Mass Effect Website
http://masseffect.com/about/story/

“Experience the beginning, middle, and end of an emotional story unlike any
other, where the decisions you make completely shape your experience
and outcome.”

Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer)
http://popwatch.ew.c...-3-mac-walters/

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer)
http://business.fina...-all-audiences/

“I’m always leery of saying there are 'optimal' endings, because I think
one of the things we do try to do is make different endings that are
optimal for different people “

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.computera...missing-in-me2/

“And, to be honest, you [the fans] are crafting your Mass Effect story as
much as we are anyway.”

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.360magazi...ferent-endings/

“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t
say any more than that…”

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry

“Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the
architect of what happens."

“You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless
of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide
some answers to these people.”

“Because a lot of these plot threads are concluding and because it's being
brought to a finale, since you were a part of architecting how they
got to how they were, you will definitely sense how they close was
because of the decisions you made and because of the decisions you
didn't make”

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director)
http://www.gameinfor...s-effect-3.aspx

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.”

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director)
http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/

“Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.”

“Mass Effect 3 is all about answering all the biggest questions in the
lore, learning about the mysteries and the Protheans and the Reapers,
being able to decide for yourself how all of these things come to an
end.”

Interviewer: “So are you guys the creators or the stewards of the franchise?”
Hudson: “Um… You know, at this point, I think we’re co-creators with
the fans. We use a lot of feedback.”

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director)
http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=2

Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that
same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?”
Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to
build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about
eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is
coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot
more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many
decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that
stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,
where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and
variety in them.”

“We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon. You as a player
decide what your story is.”


EDIT: Couple more interesting quotes I found, enjoy......or not.


Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.nowgamer....in_bioware.html

Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever
before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle
for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike
Gamble.


In an inteview with NowGamer at Gamescom, we asked if BioWare was taking risks with Mass Effect 3's
plot, including a negative ending in which the Reapers win. Gamble simply said, "Yes". We asked him again to confirm what he had just said and he said, "Yes".


Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.nowgamer....ry_details.html


"Of course you don’t have to play multiplayer, you can choose to play
all the side-quests in single-player and do all that stuff you’ll
still get all the same endings and same information, it’s just a
totally different way of playing"


Casey Hudson (Director)
http://gamescatalyst...active-stories/

“The whole idea of Mass Effect3 is resolving all of the biggest questions, about the Protheons and
the Reapers, and being in the driver's seat to end the galaxy and all
of these big plot lines, to decide what civilizations are going to
live or die: All of these things are answered in Mass Effect 3.”

Casey Hudson (Director)
http://www.computera...ly-good/?page=2

“There is a huge set of consequences that start stacking up as you approach the end-game. And
even in terms of the ending itself, it continues to break down to
some very large decisions. So it's not like a classic game ending
where everything is linear and you make a choice between a few things
- it really does layer in many, many different choices, up to the
final moments, where it's going to be different for everyone who
plays it.”

[Wolven_Soul]

LinksOcarina wrote...

clos wrote...

Come one people, you know how this works.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Lots of that will get you any reviews you want from so called 'professional reviewers'.

And EA/Bioware have dished out more for ME3 than they ever have.

Lies.

And as a game reviewer, I take offense to this. At least, not for everyone. i can't say for IGN or anything, but I can say for myself that this is not exactly true.

That is you.  But arguements can be made for this.  What about the guy guy who got fired from Gamespot for giving a game a bad review?  I am not saying that all gave reviewers have sold out, but I am finding a lot of them suspect lately.

[LinksOcarina]

Wolven_Soul wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

clos wrote...

Come one people, you know how this works.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Lots of that will get you any reviews you want from so called 'professional reviewers'.

And EA/Bioware have dished out more for ME3 than they ever have.

Lies.

And as a game reviewer, I take offense to this. At least, not for everyone. i can't say for IGN or anything, but I can say for myself that this is not exactly true.

That is you.  But arguements can be made for this.  What about the guy guy who got fired from Gamespot for giving a game a bad review?  I am not saying that all gave reviewers have sold out, but I am finding a lot of them suspect lately.

You are talking about something 5 years ago, that was resolved when the guy who fired Gerstmann was let go shortly after that for what he did.

And as an extra tidbit, Giantbomb, the site Gerstmann founded, is now a part of CBS corp again or something like that, which also owns Gamespot.

So it's full circle now.

Look, the gaming journalist industry sucks. I write for it and I admit that. But the reason it sucks is because of isolated incidents like this that ruin the industry as a whole.

As time goes on this all disappears...and the important thing to remember is that we grow from it and finally shake off that stigma.

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 31 mars 2012 - 04:22 .

[Wolven_Soul]

Gemini1179 wrote...

Wolven_Soul wrote...

Valo_Soren wrote...

Another article I agree with, you do not have the right to demand a new ending.

When they advertised something that they did not deliver...then yes...we do.

Regardless, as a consumer, I can demand anything I want. Whether or not I get it is another matter. If you understand this, there is no issue and the GI guy is just being an idiot. Gamers can demand ANYTHING. Nothing is forcing the game companies to comply.

But in this case, it would just make good business sense.

Oh I understand it of course.  I can demand until I am blue in the face and whoever I am demanding from has the right to ignore me or tell me to shut up if I want to.  Not wise in this case but there you have it.

[rhyddhau]

Truly the best propaganda EA's money can buy... except that it sounds conspicuously like all the rest of the propaganda, and stands in stark contrast with the opinions of the vast majority of all those who played the game, effectively ruining its intended effect. So: wasted revenue, lol.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Wolven_Soul wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

clos wrote...

Come one people, you know how this works.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Lots of that will get you any reviews you want from so called 'professional reviewers'.

And EA/Bioware have dished out more for ME3 than they ever have.

Lies.

And as a game reviewer, I take offense to this. At least, not for everyone. i can't say for IGN or anything, but I can say for myself that this is not exactly true.

That is you.  But arguements can be made for this.  What about the guy guy who got fired from Gamespot for giving a game a bad review?  I am not saying that all gave reviewers have sold out, but I am finding a lot of them suspect lately.

Yeah and how come I never see a bad review in GI?  Because they exist to sell games for gamestop.  I don't trust anything they print.

[JPR1964]

not touching THAT by a mile!

JPR out!

[Gemini1179]

Wolven_Soul wrote...

Oh I understand it of course.  I can demand until I am blue in the face and whoever I am demanding from has the right to ignore me or tell me to shut up if I want to.  Not wise in this case but there you have it.

Sorry, I actually wasn't responding to what you had said. Forgot to cut that part out, lol. And I agree.

[Edrick1976]

I would think that EA/BioWare pays IGN for "advertisements" or like polititions call it "campain contubutions"..... however this is just my opinion but what company would pay them to advertise something when they bash their product.

[Wolven_Soul]

Heinzmann01 wrote...

Wolven_Soul wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

This is a good article, and makes many valid points.

All of you who are refusing to read it just because it disagrees with your opinion in the title, well you are showing your colors as ignorant brats. The harsh truth.

Umm...wrong junior.  I am not reading the article because GI has been extremely biased about this issue, and have belittled those of us who do not like the endings several times.

Saying GI is biased on this issue is not a strong argument. Because with that same line of thinking everyone against the endings is biased as well. Just from a different viewpoint. 

Also, do you have any links to the articles in which they "belittle" you? I mean, sure I've read them say that they think Bioware does not and should not change the ending, but I don't recall them ever saying anything against the people that dislike the ending. 

Point taken on the biased thing.  I still don't wanna read their article though because of both their bias, and my own bias. 

As for the belittlement issue. 

http://www.gameinfor...9-re-at-it.aspx

[AnthonyAllen159]

My response to that entire article is short.
If you're content with the ending you received, don't obtain the DLC.

Even if you are somehow content with the ending, why not look at new endings as bonus alternate endings?

[Marinemike69]

ShinyMetalFIsh wrote...

Carlthestrange wrote...

Not clicking the link, not giving them the money from my click.

Agreed, steer clear.

[Wolven_Soul]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Wolven_Soul wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

clos wrote...

Come one people, you know how this works.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Lots of that will get you any reviews you want from so called 'professional reviewers'.

And EA/Bioware have dished out more for ME3 than they ever have.

Lies.

And as a game reviewer, I take offense to this. At least, not for everyone. i can't say for IGN or anything, but I can say for myself that this is not exactly true.

That is you.  But arguements can be made for this.  What about the guy guy who got fired from Gamespot for giving a game a bad review?  I am not saying that all gave reviewers have sold out, but I am finding a lot of them suspect lately.

You are talking about something 5 years ago, that was resolved when the guy who fired Gerstmann was let go shortly after that for what he did.

And as an extra tidbit, Giantbomb, the site Gerstmann founded, is now a part of CBS corp again or something like that, which also owns Gamespot.

So it's full circle now.

Look, the gaming journalist industry sucks. I write for it and I admit that. But the reason it sucks is because of isolated incidents like this that ruin the industry as a whole.

As time goes on this all disappears...and the important thing to remember is that we grow from it and finally shake off that stigma.

I see what your saying.  Then let me just thank you for being an honest reviewer then in a world that is murky at best at the moment.

[jason9880]

Carlthestrange wrote...

Not clicking the link, not giving them the money from my click.

I added them to my browsers block list too. 

[Marinemike69]

Edington wrote...

I would think that EA/BioWare pays IGN for "advertisements" or like polititions call it "campain contubutions"..... however this is just my opinion but what company would pay them to advertise something when they bash their product.

[Heinzmann01]

Wolven_Soul wrote...

Heinzmann01 wrote...

Wolven_Soul wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

This is a good article, and makes many valid points.

All of you who are refusing to read it just because it disagrees with your opinion in the title, well you are showing your colors as ignorant brats. The harsh truth.

Umm...wrong junior.  I am not reading the article because GI has been extremely biased about this issue, and have belittled those of us who do not like the endings several times.

Saying GI is biased on this issue is not a strong argument. Because with that same line of thinking everyone against the endings is biased as well. Just from a different viewpoint. 

Also, do you have any links to the articles in which they "belittle" you? I mean, sure I've read them say that they think Bioware does not and should not change the ending, but I don't recall them ever saying anything against the people that dislike the ending. 

Point taken on the biased thing.  I still don't wanna read their article though because of both their bias, and my own bias. 

As for the belittlement issue. 

http://www.gameinfor...9-re-at-it.aspx

Ah well I just took that article as an attempt at good humour. I can see though how others might see it otherwise. 

[Wolven_Soul]

Heinzmann01 wrote...

Wolven_Soul wrote...

Heinzmann01 wrote...

Wolven_Soul wrote...

terdferguson123 wrote...

This is a good article, and makes many valid points.

All of you who are refusing to read it just because it disagrees with your opinion in the title, well you are showing your colors as ignorant brats. The harsh truth.

Umm...wrong junior.  I am not reading the article because GI has been extremely biased about this issue, and have belittled those of us who do not like the endings several times.

Saying GI is biased on this issue is not a strong argument. Because with that same line of thinking everyone against the endings is biased as well. Just from a different viewpoint. 

Also, do you have any links to the articles in which they "belittle" you? I mean, sure I've read them say that they think Bioware does not and should not change the ending, but I don't recall them ever saying anything against the people that dislike the ending. 

Point taken on the biased thing.  I still don't wanna read their article though because of both their bias, and my own bias. 

As for the belittlement issue. 

http://www.gameinfor...9-re-at-it.aspx

Ah well I just took that article as an attempt at good humour. I can see though how others might see it otherwise. 

What can I say, I'm easily but hurt.  

[Torrible]

Wolven_Soul wrote...

Point taken on the biased thing.  I still don't wanna read their article though because of both their bias, and my own bias. 

As for the belittlement issue. 

http://www.gameinfor...9-re-at-it.aspx

Satirical humor, just like this one
 
http://kotaku.com/58...ese-video-games 

Modifié par Torrible, 31 mars 2012 - 05:26 .

[xxskyshadowxx]

Doomhams wrote...

From the article:

but the demand from angry fans for a new ending is unprecedented. BioWare complying with these demands, in some form or another, is also unprecedented, and is a goodwill tactic I believe will likely backfire

I think Bethesda and their Broken Steel DLC and the mucho money it made them would like to say hi.

[iSpider-Man]

txmn1016 wrote...

ZiegenkonigIII wrote...

I'm extremely disappointed with how a lot of the gaming media is handling this. Hell, I used to look up to some of them. Just, disappointed.

That's why I'm sticking to Forbes for my gaming news from now on :lol:

[stwu]

I haven't read game infrormer since they hired Joe Jubba he called people who liked a certain game retarded monkeys or something like that. Can't stand the loser. These so called journalists need to be fair and and not attack the same people who buy or use their website.

[Heavymetal.fan]

Honestly who in their right mind buys games based on a review by a person you don't personally know? I think game developers are using the wrong indicator to measure if the public likes their game or not and sadly this could effect the outcome of the "dlc" we are all waiting for.