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[LTKerr]

I think you missed a few 0's there

[Laurcus]

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Broly destroys a quarter of the universe in Dragonball Z. Considering there are several billion galaxies in the universe, and Harbinger doesn't get every kill in every cycle, I think Broly is ahead in terms of raw kill count.

Dragonball Z couldn't actually realistically occur, Mass Effect theoeretically could, also there's no way to say all those galaxies were inhabited.

In short, DBZ doesn't matter.

The OP said, "I do not believe there is any other fiction being/entity that has that high of a kill count" I was correcting that statement. Also, Mass Effect cannot theoretically happen. The mass effect and element zero aren't possible. So in that sense, it's as realistic as DBZ, which is to say, not very.

Also, the majority of the planets in DBZ have been shown to be inhabited.

Magical balls that grant wishes with dragons stuck in them is a lot different than an as of yet unknown element that is affected by electricity in different ways and which can when properly manipulated, reduce or enhance mass.

To say that the theoretical element zero couldn't occur is illogical. We have NOT explored the entirety of space and everything it has to offer, we WILL discover new things if we ever do.

Both are impossible. Show me someone that can use biotics in real life and what you say is valid. Your reasoning can also be applied to the Dragonballs and all things magic, it's just not discovered yet. Also, don't make me bring up the space magic of the synthesis ending.

Both settings are internally consistent in their own ways, Dragonball probably more so due to ME3's ending.

No, magic dragons that grant wishes is not science or technology, it's magic.

The manipulation of mass can be done if we found a type of harnesser which is what the element is.

We've already got low-band telekinetic abilities that sometimes pop up, granted they are very low yield, I highly doubt we won't harness something someday.

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AS for the games ending, until it is as promised, the ending and final mission are OMITTED as far as I'm concerned.

In Dragonball, magic is part of science. And the physics of Mass Effect are so alien to us, we may as well call them magic. FTL drives alone invalidates Mass Effect as being possible. Nothing can go faster than light. Also, Javik and his DNA reading ability, DNA dun work like that.

If either Dragonballs, or eezo were found to be real, the reaction from the scientific community would be identical. It would be called a paradigm shift. http://en.wikipedia..../Paradigm_shift

Magic and science are just terms. If magic existed, and was consistent, measurable, and logical in the way it worked, it would be part of science.

Also, by ommiting the ending you're cherry picking.

Modifié par Laurcus, 31 mars 2012 - 02:13 .

[Lugaidster]

Every single live soldier in real life with some action on his back has the same KD ratio that Harby has; infinite. 1/0 = x/0 = infinity. So I don't care how awesome you think Harby is, any person who has killed someone in real life has the same KD ratio.

However, if we simply focus on the kill count, that's a whole'nother thing.

[Evil_medved]

Aesieru wrote...

Evil_medved wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Evil_medved wrote...

Harby is the man!

Thank you my good slave, would you like to be a husk or part of a Praetorian or Scion?

Can you melt me and put into reaper?

Yes, we think Humanity would make a good capital-class Reaper, of course you yourself will die in the process along with millions others, but your purpose will be ascended and you'll become part of a sapient construct as we are. You wouldn't comprehend what happens, but either way you lose any real ability to think, speak, breathe, or do anything, because you're now molecular paste.

We'll get STRAIGHT TO WORK ON THAT.

*A husk knocks at your door*

Sounds complicated, but you are professional with billion year long history of service, so who i am to argue?

Modifié par Evil_medved, 31 mars 2012 - 02:12 .

[Lugaidster]

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Broly destroys a quarter of the universe in Dragonball Z. Considering there are several billion galaxies in the universe, and Harbinger doesn't get every kill in every cycle, I think Broly is ahead in terms of raw kill count.

Dragonball Z couldn't actually realistically occur, Mass Effect theoeretically could, also there's no way to say all those galaxies were inhabited.

In short, DBZ doesn't matter.

The OP said, "I do not believe there is any other fiction being/entity that has that high of a kill count" I was correcting that statement. Also, Mass Effect cannot theoretically happen. The mass effect and element zero aren't possible. So in that sense, it's as realistic as DBZ, which is to say, not very.

Also, the majority of the planets in DBZ have been shown to be inhabited.

Magical balls that grant wishes with dragons stuck in them is a lot different than an as of yet unknown element that is affected by electricity in different ways and which can when properly manipulated, reduce or enhance mass.

To say that the theoretical element zero couldn't occur is illogical. We have NOT explored the entirety of space and everything it has to offer, we WILL discover new things if we ever do.

Both are impossible. Show me someone that can use biotics in real life and what you say is valid. Your reasoning can also be applied to the Dragonballs and all things magic, it's just not discovered yet. Also, don't make me bring up the space magic of the synthesis ending.

Both settings are internally consistent in their own ways, Dragonball probably more so due to ME3's ending.

No, magic dragons that grant wishes is not science or technology, it's magic.

The manipulation of mass can be done if we found a type of harnesser which is what the element is.

We've already got low-band telekinetic abilities that sometimes pop up, granted they are very low yield, I highly doubt we won't harness something someday.

---

AS for the games ending, until it is as promised, the ending and final mission are OMITTED as far as I'm concerned.

In Dragonball, magic is part of science. And the physics of Mass Effect are so alien to us, we may as well call them magic. FTL drives alone invalidates Mass Effect as being possible. Nothing can go faster than light. Also, Javik and his DNA reading ability, DNA dun work like that.

If either Dragonballs, or eezo were found to be real, the reaction from the scientific community would be identical. It would be called a paradigm shift. http://en.wikipedia..../Paradigm_shift

FTL is impossible only in a local reference frame.

[Aesieru]

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Broly destroys a quarter of the universe in Dragonball Z. Considering there are several billion galaxies in the universe, and Harbinger doesn't get every kill in every cycle, I think Broly is ahead in terms of raw kill count.

Dragonball Z couldn't actually realistically occur, Mass Effect theoeretically could, also there's no way to say all those galaxies were inhabited.

In short, DBZ doesn't matter.

The OP said, "I do not believe there is any other fiction being/entity that has that high of a kill count" I was correcting that statement. Also, Mass Effect cannot theoretically happen. The mass effect and element zero aren't possible. So in that sense, it's as realistic as DBZ, which is to say, not very.

Also, the majority of the planets in DBZ have been shown to be inhabited.

Magical balls that grant wishes with dragons stuck in them is a lot different than an as of yet unknown element that is affected by electricity in different ways and which can when properly manipulated, reduce or enhance mass.

To say that the theoretical element zero couldn't occur is illogical. We have NOT explored the entirety of space and everything it has to offer, we WILL discover new things if we ever do.

Both are impossible. Show me someone that can use biotics in real life and what you say is valid. Your reasoning can also be applied to the Dragonballs and all things magic, it's just not discovered yet. Also, don't make me bring up the space magic of the synthesis ending.

Both settings are internally consistent in their own ways, Dragonball probably more so due to ME3's ending.

No, magic dragons that grant wishes is not science or technology, it's magic.

The manipulation of mass can be done if we found a type of harnesser which is what the element is.

We've already got low-band telekinetic abilities that sometimes pop up, granted they are very low yield, I highly doubt we won't harness something someday.

---

AS for the games ending, until it is as promised, the ending and final mission are OMITTED as far as I'm concerned.

In Dragonball, magic is part of science. And the physics of Mass Effect are so alien to us, we may as well call them magic. FTL drives alone invalidates Mass Effect as being possible. Nothing can go faster than light. Also, Javik and his DNA reading ability, DNA dun work like that.

If either Dragonballs, or eezo were found to be real, the reaction from the scientific community would be identical. It would be called a paradigm shift. http://en.wikipedia..../Paradigm_shift

Actually DNA does store memory, we've attributed this to instinctual bleed-off for ancestors and descendants, but it DOES store memory. Now does it store all memory? It's impossible to know if we somehow can compress our memories into our DNA like that, we can't read DNA so much as see what it is from a very basic form.

Can it determine lying or not? No, but I imagine the Prothean ability was more than just reading DNA.

To think that nothing can go faster than light is ignorant to be honest, technology eventually will be created that changes the established laws of science and physics, it has happened before and it WILL happen again. The definition of a theory is merely something that is researched well, it doesn't mean it is permanent or that it can't be broken.

[Aesieru]

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Broly destroys a quarter of the universe in Dragonball Z. Considering there are several billion galaxies in the universe, and Harbinger doesn't get every kill in every cycle, I think Broly is ahead in terms of raw kill count.

Dragonball Z couldn't actually realistically occur, Mass Effect theoeretically could, also there's no way to say all those galaxies were inhabited.

In short, DBZ doesn't matter.

The OP said, "I do not believe there is any other fiction being/entity that has that high of a kill count" I was correcting that statement. Also, Mass Effect cannot theoretically happen. The mass effect and element zero aren't possible. So in that sense, it's as realistic as DBZ, which is to say, not very.

Also, the majority of the planets in DBZ have been shown to be inhabited.

Magical balls that grant wishes with dragons stuck in them is a lot different than an as of yet unknown element that is affected by electricity in different ways and which can when properly manipulated, reduce or enhance mass.

To say that the theoretical element zero couldn't occur is illogical. We have NOT explored the entirety of space and everything it has to offer, we WILL discover new things if we ever do.

Both are impossible. Show me someone that can use biotics in real life and what you say is valid. Your reasoning can also be applied to the Dragonballs and all things magic, it's just not discovered yet. Also, don't make me bring up the space magic of the synthesis ending.

Both settings are internally consistent in their own ways, Dragonball probably more so due to ME3's ending.

No, magic dragons that grant wishes is not science or technology, it's magic.

The manipulation of mass can be done if we found a type of harnesser which is what the element is.

We've already got low-band telekinetic abilities that sometimes pop up, granted they are very low yield, I highly doubt we won't harness something someday.

---

AS for the games ending, until it is as promised, the ending and final mission are OMITTED as far as I'm concerned.

In Dragonball, magic is part of science. And the physics of Mass Effect are so alien to us, we may as well call them magic. FTL drives alone invalidates Mass Effect as being possible. Nothing can go faster than light. Also, Javik and his DNA reading ability, DNA dun work like that.

If either Dragonballs, or eezo were found to be real, the reaction from the scientific community would be identical. It would be called a paradigm shift. http://en.wikipedia..../Paradigm_shift

Magic and science are just terms. If magic existed, and was consistent, measurable, and logical in the way it worked, it would be part of science.

Also, by ommiting the ending you're cherry picking.

No, by omitting the ending I am focusing on their promises and the continuity of the series. If it doesn't fit into that then it didn't happen.

[Laurcus]

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Laurcus wrote...

Broly destroys a quarter of the universe in Dragonball Z. Considering there are several billion galaxies in the universe, and Harbinger doesn't get every kill in every cycle, I think Broly is ahead in terms of raw kill count.

Dragonball Z couldn't actually realistically occur, Mass Effect theoeretically could, also there's no way to say all those galaxies were inhabited.

In short, DBZ doesn't matter.

The OP said, "I do not believe there is any other fiction being/entity that has that high of a kill count" I was correcting that statement. Also, Mass Effect cannot theoretically happen. The mass effect and element zero aren't possible. So in that sense, it's as realistic as DBZ, which is to say, not very.

Also, the majority of the planets in DBZ have been shown to be inhabited.

Magical balls that grant wishes with dragons stuck in them is a lot different than an as of yet unknown element that is affected by electricity in different ways and which can when properly manipulated, reduce or enhance mass.

To say that the theoretical element zero couldn't occur is illogical. We have NOT explored the entirety of space and everything it has to offer, we WILL discover new things if we ever do.

Both are impossible. Show me someone that can use biotics in real life and what you say is valid. Your reasoning can also be applied to the Dragonballs and all things magic, it's just not discovered yet. Also, don't make me bring up the space magic of the synthesis ending.

Both settings are internally consistent in their own ways, Dragonball probably more so due to ME3's ending.

No, magic dragons that grant wishes is not science or technology, it's magic.

The manipulation of mass can be done if we found a type of harnesser which is what the element is.

We've already got low-band telekinetic abilities that sometimes pop up, granted they are very low yield, I highly doubt we won't harness something someday.

---

AS for the games ending, until it is as promised, the ending and final mission are OMITTED as far as I'm concerned.

In Dragonball, magic is part of science. And the physics of Mass Effect are so alien to us, we may as well call them magic. FTL drives alone invalidates Mass Effect as being possible. Nothing can go faster than light. Also, Javik and his DNA reading ability, DNA dun work like that.

If either Dragonballs, or eezo were found to be real, the reaction from the scientific community would be identical. It would be called a paradigm shift. http://en.wikipedia..../Paradigm_shift

Actually DNA does store memory, we've attributed this to instinctual bleed-off for ancestors and descendants, but it DOES store memory. Now does it store all memory? It's impossible to know if we somehow can compress our memories into our DNA like that, we can't read DNA so much as see what it is from a very basic form.

Can it determine lying or not? No, but I imagine the Prothean ability was more than just reading DNA.

To think that nothing can go faster than light is ignorant to be honest, technology eventually will be created that changes the established laws of science and physics, it has happened before and it WILL happen again. The definition of a theory is merely something that is researched well, it doesn't mean it is permanent or that it can't be broken.

As of right now though, it's just as impossible as wish granting dragons. Also, you've ignored my point about magic being part of science entirely. If it was real, logical, and measurable, (which in the setting of DBZ it is) then it would be considered revolutionary science, which is exactly what you're talking about.

[Lugaidster]

Aesieru wrote...

To think that nothing can go faster than light is ignorant to be honest, technology eventually will be created that changes the established laws of science and physics, it has happened before and it WILL happen again. The definition of a theory is merely something that is researched well, it doesn't mean it is permanent or that it can't be broken.

Travelling faster than light locally means going backwards in time. Travelling *at* the speed of light locally means that time is essentially frozen locally. This is not speculation, this is how things go right now. It's not something that will be changed at some point in the future.

No ship will ever be able to travel faster than the speed of light... locally. Current science knowledge doesn't exclude the posibility of FTL travel, unless that means travelling at FTL locally. It will involve at some point some kind of space distortion like a wormhole that will allow a "slow" space ship to cross great distances.

[Coachdongwiffle]

The harbinger I faced off with died so...his K/D was hurt a bit

[Biotic_Warlock]

According to my first gameplay it was more
200,000,000,000,000,000 to 1

Kaboom!

[Aesieru]

Lugaidster wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

To think that nothing can go faster than light is ignorant to be honest, technology eventually will be created that changes the established laws of science and physics, it has happened before and it WILL happen again. The definition of a theory is merely something that is researched well, it doesn't mean it is permanent or that it can't be broken.

Travelling faster than light locally means going backwards in time. Travelling *at* the speed of light locally means that time is essentially frozen locally. This is not speculation, this is how things go right now. It's not something that will be changed at some point in the future.

No ship will ever be able to travel faster than the speed of light... locally. Current science knowledge doesn't exclude the posibility of FTL travel, unless that means travelling at FTL locally. It will involve at some point some kind of space distortion like a wormhole that will allow a "slow" space ship to cross great distances.

We've already created time-dialation between acceleration around our planet and time-relative to on-planet types... in essence they were travelling in the past and the future in both cases.

[Da Don Giovanni]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

According to my first gameplay it was more
200,000,000,000,000,000 to 1

Kaboom!

LIES ALLLLL LIESSSS

[Reapinger]

He only perishes in one ending though... SOOO he's only 1/3 dead...

[thinicer]

Just disappointing we didn't have any kind of dialogue with Harbinger in #3. Instead, we got a Destroyer Reaper in its death throes harping on about how organics are doomed without the Reapers involvement.

[thinicer]

All those squad members should have equipped themselves of the Decoy bonus power before running for the beam. Would have helped.

[Biotic_Warlock]

Reapinger wrote...

He only perishes in one ending though... SOOO he's only 1/3 dead...

Maybe, but in another ending it's a classic case of "ASSUMING DIRECT CONROL"

[Da Don Giovanni]

Laurcus wrote...



As of right now though, it's just as impossible as wish granting dragons. Also, you've ignored my point about magic being part of science entirely. If it was real, logical, and measurable, (which in the setting of DBZ it is) then it would be considered revolutionary science, which is exactly what you're talking about.

*Udina voice from ME1*

http://www.jpl.nasa....elease=2012-010

"You wanted proof? THERE IT IS"

*Laurcus voice*

"This evidence is irrefutable ambassador, the DBZ universe will be stripped of it's fictational rights and all efforts will be made to bring the creators of it in for their crimes."

[Biotic_Warlock]

thinicer wrote...

Just disappointing we didn't have any kind of dialogue with Harbinger in #3. Instead, we got a Destroyer Reaper in its death throes harping on about how organics are doomed without the Reapers involvement.

I would had been content with a little Harbingeness on the running scene

Saying his usual lines as he shoots beams at everyone.

[Friggan]

I wonder how many spector packs he unlocked?

[Aesieru]

thinicer wrote...

Just disappointing we didn't have any kind of dialogue with Harbinger in #3. Instead, we got a Destroyer Reaper in its death throes harping on about how organics are doomed without the Reapers involvement.

I'm talking to you on your forums... I think that's more than enough conversation you need, eh Human?

THIS HURTS YOU

Modifié par Aesieru, 31 mars 2012 - 02:49 .

[stysiaq]

A janitors work is never done.

[Da Don Giovanni]

Friggan wrote...

I wonder how many spector packs he unlocked?

No data available...

[foxlockbox]

Harby this hurts me!

[CroGamer002]

Shepard blows up every Mass Relay in Milky Way, which pretty much eradicates most of all life in galaxy since Mass Relays are placed in almost every system with planet that has life on it.

In only 30 minutes.

BITE ME HARBY!

Modifié par Mesina2, 31 mars 2012 - 02:54 .