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[spychi]

 

[Da Don Giovanni]

spychi wrote...

 

OH YOU LIKE THAT? YOU MOTHERFU ER FUING GOD DAMN LAG!!!! AAAAAHHHHH FU K!!!!!!!

[soulprovider]

KingNothing125 wrote...

I'm fairly confident in saying the population of the space-faring galaxy is nowhere near 1 trillion. A trillion is an insanely big number.

Assume 15 billion per species homeworld (being generous, it's high even for Earth, one of the most populous planets)

8 major species (humans, turians, salarians, asari, volus, elcor, hanar, batarians)

That's 120 billion so far.

Let's be even more extremely generous and say each major species has 20 colonies of a billion people each.

160 billion + the original 120 billion. That's 280 billion.

Let's be generous again and 20 billion for the krogan, drell, vorcha, yahg, and whatever other minor species that have been partially uplifted or recently integrated into galactic society.

300 billion. Galaxy-wide. Not even close to a trillion. Even with wildly inflated estimates.

So the Reapers might be unstoppable killing machines, but your estimate is about 2000x too high.

If they've been at it for a billion years, assuming similar population numbers each cycle, they've killed approximately 60,000,000,000,000 organic beings.

Earths current population is over 7billion in our limited technological age and shows signs that it can withstand more if we stopped being dicks to ourselves
 

Earths population in mass effect is 11.6billion, Humanity has spread out to different bases and planets before the first contact war and after so minimun estimate I would legitmately go by is roughly 35 billion, given that they have colonized a large portion of the atican travers and the terminus systems are colonized by most of the criminals and some down on their luck people so that number can legitimetely be higher.

Thessias population has existed for atleast 50 thousand years, the asari have atleast populated multiple worlds and they were the original founders of the citadel and their people can live for a 1000 years, our limited age is what keeps our population for inflating fast. I would say that they make up the bulk of the galactic popluation probably rounding out at about 250-300 billion. What keeps our numbers down are disease, predators,wars, age and humber now Imagine if we had none of that. The asari never fought in open conflict with each other, they had limited diseases and few dangerous predators and seem to have enough resources to make their planet enter a golden age so left unchecked they were able to expand rapidly over a 50k year time period.

The turians have had their evolved civilliazation for at minimum 15k years, rough estimate on their population based on their fleet size and different worlds they have colonized would peak at about 200 billion including client races(volus and other unnamed species).

Salarians have a lot of young at a short time frame and short lives, gonna say their popluation based on how old their civilization is would be close to 200 billion and rising. They lay several hundreds eggs at a time only through breeding rituals and breeding stocks do they manage to keep their numbers from going as high as the asaris.

Quarians flotilla equates to 17 million strictly controlled

Elcor about 50 billion, hard to tell since they spread out

batarians - roughly 40 billion, numbers are hard to come by due to them not being part of citadel space.and their keeping of slaves.

Terminus systems - roughly 100 billion, no actual census data

geth several billion, numbers unknown

Hanar - since the hanar live on a very wet world they need to live on worlds with a lot of water, that being said its easy to see how their populations could skyrocket and with them rescueing the drell i'd estimate 15 billion

Citadel - several million people.

The numbers I have provided are based on in game lore about how each races culture and government are, its easy to see these numbers going up especially if there are no limitations to prevent the population from increasing. All you need to sustain an expanding popluation are resources, livable climate and no limiting factor (such as disease war and predators). As long as those three don't change the population numbers can increase dramatically.



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[liggy002]

I guess he just got tired of killing people so easily. Nobody was challenging him so he retired. Seriously though, I hated that they didn't include him much. Bioware f***** that up. Hopefully they'll make up for in DLC. They probably reserved him for DLC because they know that we'd all buy it up like crazy. Well, at least if something is done with that ending.

I thought that Kai Leng was bad ass.  But, let's face it, Kai Leng is a little girl compared to Harbinger.  Kai ran from Shepard 2 times and failed killing him twice.  Harbinger just shows up once and blasts Shepard to hell.  I would argue that he didn't plan on killing him. He blasted him so he could indoctrinate him.

Modifié par liggy002, 01 avril 2012 - 07:55 .

[Da Don Giovanni]

liggy002 wrote...
...Bioware f***** that up...

All that needed to be said, LOL.

[BatmanPWNS]

Kid Buu comes close.

[Da Don Giovanni]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Kid Buu comes close.

Kid Buu??!?!

[Da Don Giovanni]

soulprovider wrote...

KingNothing125 wrote...

I'm fairly confident in saying the population of the space-faring galaxy is nowhere near 1 trillion. A trillion is an insanely big number.

Assume 15 billion per species homeworld (being generous, it's high even for Earth, one of the most populous planets)

8 major species (humans, turians, salarians, asari, volus, elcor, hanar, batarians)

That's 120 billion so far.

Let's be even more extremely generous and say each major species has 20 colonies of a billion people each.

160 billion + the original 120 billion. That's 280 billion.

Let's be generous again and 20 billion for the krogan, drell, vorcha, yahg, and whatever other minor species that have been partially uplifted or recently integrated into galactic society.

300 billion. Galaxy-wide. Not even close to a trillion. Even with wildly inflated estimates.

So the Reapers might be unstoppable killing machines, but your estimate is about 2000x too high.

If they've been at it for a billion years, assuming similar population numbers each cycle, they've killed approximately 60,000,000,000,000 organic beings.

Earths current population is over 7billion in our limited technological age and shows signs that it can withstand more if we stopped being dicks to ourselves
 

Earths population in mass effect is 11.6billion, Humanity has spread out to different bases and planets before the first contact war and after so minimun estimate I would legitmately go by is roughly 35 billion, given that they have colonized a large portion of the atican travers and the terminus systems are colonized by most of the criminals and some down on their luck people so that number can legitimetely be higher.

Thessias population has existed for atleast 50 thousand years, the asari have atleast populated multiple worlds and they were the original founders of the citadel and their people can live for a 1000 years, our limited age is what keeps our population for inflating fast. I would say that they make up the bulk of the galactic popluation probably rounding out at about 250-300 billion. What keeps our numbers down are disease, predators,wars, age and humber now Imagine if we had none of that. The asari never fought in open conflict with each other, they had limited diseases and few dangerous predators and seem to have enough resources to make their planet enter a golden age so left unchecked they were able to expand rapidly over a 50k year time period.

The turians have had their evolved civilliazation for at minimum 15k years, rough estimate on their population based on their fleet size and different worlds they have colonized would peak at about 200 billion including client races(volus and other unnamed species).

Salarians have a lot of young at a short time frame and short lives, gonna say their popluation based on how old their civilization is would be close to 200 billion and rising. They lay several hundreds eggs at a time only through breeding rituals and breeding stocks do they manage to keep their numbers from going as high as the asaris.

Quarians flotilla equates to 17 million strictly controlled

Elcor about 50 billion, hard to tell since they spread out

batarians - roughly 40 billion, numbers are hard to come by due to them not being part of citadel space.and their keeping of slaves.

Terminus systems - roughly 100 billion, no actual census data

geth several billion, numbers unknown

Hanar - since the hanar live on a very wet world they need to live on worlds with a lot of water, that being said its easy to see how their populations could skyrocket and with them rescueing the drell i'd estimate 15 billion

Citadel - several million people.

The numbers I have provided are based on in game lore about how each races culture and government are, its easy to see these numbers going up especially if there are no limitations to prevent the population from increasing. All you need to sustain an expanding popluation are resources, livable climate and no limiting factor (such as disease war and predators). As long as those three don't change the population numbers can increase dramatically.

I agree that you agree.

[Da Don Giovanni]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Aesieru wrote...


He wants story, and FPS's rarely have any quantifiable or quality story in them.

Harbinger liked Halo and the flood.

He doesn't play multiplayer, too many idiots that wouldn't comprehend him would rage at him.

Does Harby like Skyrim? 
Lots of humans to kill, there.

Lots of killing to be done in Skyrim, which reminds me....

[Da Don Giovanni]

Red Dust wrote...

THIS IS WHAT YOU FACE.

30 seconds?

[Da Don Giovanni]

Let's get a Harbinger fan club going.

[locsphere]

Do you know how many care packages that is? Totally unbalanced...

[Funkdrspot]

Orthodox Infidel wrote...

You can't divide a number by zero.

weak organic, this is beyond your comprehension. dividing by zero hurts you.

[Da Don Giovanni]

Ice Cold J wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Da Don Giovanni wrote...

Well I think Harbinger would like running around with the best gear and a MP7 supressed, killing everyone in site.

He would be the first to get 30 kills in a FFA, I can assure you.

He wants story, and FPS's rarely have any quantifiable or quality story in them.

Harbinger liked Halo and the flood.

He doesn't play multiplayer, too many idiots that wouldn't comprehend him would rage at him.

"He knows they feel this, and this hurts them."

No doubt.

[Da Don Giovanni]

CrazyRah wrote...

Da Don Giovanni wrote...

Harbinger > You

Best thing i've read today. Genius

Agreed.

[Da Don Giovanni]

Updated.

[liggy002]

Da Don Giovanni wrote...

*Updated with information from the Leviathan DLC*

By all Mass Effect Lore accounts the oldest concrete timeline we have in relation to the Reapers is The Leviathan of Dis.  At 1 Billion years old, and the "cycle" occuring every 50,000 years then there were AT LEAST 20,000 "cycles" that took place.

*According to the Leviathan from the DLC, Harbinger was the first Reaper ever created and accomplished the first cycle SINGLE HANDEDLY. Which means, 1. He is a True OG and 2. He is much older than we can currently guesstimate making his actual Kill Count much higher than 200qd but any further guessing would be inaccurate/heresay.*


With trillions of organics in the Milky Way Galaxy (evidenced by multiple lines of dialogue in the MEU), it could be easily assumed that there are 10 or so Trillion organics, most of which are killed.

Acknowledging that Harbinger is in FACT the Oldest, most Powerful and most Experienced Reaper in history and the fact that the Collector's were Harbinger's idea and personal project, he the #1 reaper.


Which means Harbinger's MINIMUM Kill Death Ratio is 200, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000 to Zero.


There is no other fiction being/entity that has that high of a kill count, making Harbinger the most badass killing machine (no pun in (real life) human history.

And yet, somehow he doesn't pull the trigger when he sees the Normandy.  Interesting.

[liggy002]

MarchWaltz wrote...

Assuming the ending was as is, his K/D is 200 quadrillion to....1.

Since we killed him.

Funny, I never saw that happen in the ending, it is only assumed based on what the Catalyst says.  The Reapers are seen to be destroyed, but not Harbinger specifically.

[Da Don Giovanni]

liggy002 wrote...

Da Don Giovanni wrote...

*Updated with information from the Leviathan DLC*

By all Mass Effect Lore accounts the oldest concrete timeline we have in relation to the Reapers is The Leviathan of Dis.  At 1 Billion years old, and the "cycle" occuring every 50,000 years then there were AT LEAST 20,000 "cycles" that took place.

*According to the Leviathan from the DLC, Harbinger was the first Reaper ever created and accomplished the first cycle SINGLE HANDEDLY. Which means, 1. He is a True OG and 2. He is much older than we can currently guesstimate making his actual Kill Count much higher than 200qd but any further guessing would be inaccurate/heresay.*


With trillions of organics in the Milky Way Galaxy (evidenced by multiple lines of dialogue in the MEU), it could be easily assumed that there are 10 or so Trillion organics, most of which are killed.

Acknowledging that Harbinger is in FACT the Oldest, most Powerful and most Experienced Reaper in history and the fact that the Collector's were Harbinger's idea and personal project, he the #1 reaper.


Which means Harbinger's MINIMUM Kill Death Ratio is 200, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000 to Zero.


There is no other fiction being/entity that has that high of a kill count, making Harbinger the most badass killing machine (no pun in (real life) human history.

And yet, somehow he doesn't pull the trigger when he sees the Normandy.  Interesting.

LOLZ ^

[Ranger Jack Walker]

He is true OG

I probably laighed more than what is considered healthy.

[Lonsecia]

Going by how weird the Reapers are sometimes, I reckon his internal counter went on the fritz and the K:D ratio went back to 0:0. In a moment of blind rage, Harbinger shut down because he had no more spare heads to explode.

[MegaSovereign]

Harbinger didn't defeat the first cycle.

The Catalyst's synthetic "pawns" did or something. If Harbinger was involved then it is likely he had help from Destroyer-class Reapers as well.

[Ranadiel Marius]

Da Don Giovanni wrote...

There is no other fiction being/entity that has that high of a kill count, making Harbinger the most badass killing machine (no pun) in (real life) human history.

Bah. The Anti-Monitor in Crisis on infinite Earths destroyed an infinite number of universes(well infinite minus five, but that is still infinite) resulting in the deaths of every single creature on every single planet in those infinite universes except for a handful of people that escaped somehow or another. 

Harbinger's kill count is insignificant before the might that is the Anti-Monitor and his infinite kill count!

[Conniving_Eagle]

1.

Jillion.