ME3 and DA2: Which was a bigger letdown for you?
#26
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:12
#27
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:12
#28
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:13
Why do I keep constantly being in agreeance with you on most points?Roxy Lalonde wrote...
I loved DAO so much - more than I think I love ME at the moment, actually - but DA2 killed my enthusiasm for the franchise. For me, DA2 was bad throughout. ME3 was brilliant until the last few minutes, and seeing as I subscribe to the indoctrination theory,I actually like the endings. Just a bit upset with the lack of follow-up explanation. Unless they're not a hallucination used for metatheatrical indoctrination of the player. In which case, I loathe them.
But ME3 is still miles ahead of DA2 in quality.
#29
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:15
Modifié par morrie23, 31 mars 2012 - 11:21 .
#30
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:16
#31
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:16
DA2 was at least consistent in quality and tone throughout. It let you know what it was going to be like in the first hour or so, and there weren't any egregious violations of the setting or characters (Anders, uh, is up for debate), even if the game was... eh. It was eh. 'Eh' does not inspire people to break out the torches and pitchforks, I guess. There's parts I like, parts I don't like, but nothing that makes me feel like the game just punched me in the gut.
Although if there ends up being a RetakeDragonAge movement down the line, they have my completely unnecessary blessing.
Modifié par Lozark, 31 mars 2012 - 11:32 .
#32
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:17
Edit: Me included.
Modifié par Jade8aby88, 31 mars 2012 - 11:17 .
#33
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:17
And, really, I liked DA2. It wasn't DA:O, but I'm OK with that. After all, I play a Bioware game not for the gameplay, but the story, and I liked what they were doing there.
And was beyond disappointed in ME3, with that ending that pretty much negated all that had happened before.
#34
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:19
Poshible wrote...
Why do I keep constantly being in agreeance with you on most points?Roxy Lalonde wrote...
I loved DAO so much - more than I think I love ME at the moment, actually - but DA2 killed my enthusiasm for the franchise. For me, DA2 was bad throughout. ME3 was brilliant until the last few minutes, and seeing as I subscribe to the indoctrination theory,I actually like the endings. Just a bit upset with the lack of follow-up explanation. Unless they're not a hallucination used for metatheatrical indoctrination of the player. In which case, I loathe them.
But ME3 is still miles ahead of DA2 in quality.
You have great taste, that's what it is. Obviously.
#35
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:19
My only real complaint about Dragon Age 2 was the cookie cutter dungeons.
#36
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:20
Roxy Lalonde wrote...
Poshible wrote...
Why do I keep constantly being in agreeance with you on most points?Roxy Lalonde wrote...
I loved DAO so much - more than I think I love ME at the moment, actually - but DA2 killed my enthusiasm for the franchise. For me, DA2 was bad throughout. ME3 was brilliant until the last few minutes, and seeing as I subscribe to the indoctrination theory,I actually like the endings. Just a bit upset with the lack of follow-up explanation. Unless they're not a hallucination used for metatheatrical indoctrination of the player. In which case, I loathe them.
But ME3 is still miles ahead of DA2 in quality.
You have great taste, that's what it is. Obviously.
May I butt in for one word?
Wonk
#37
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:21
#38
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:22
ME3 is a different story. Advertised as the last chapter in Shepard saga, where all your decisions play out in an epic way... The end felt unfulfilling and cheap.
So yeah, DA2 ending was fine, ME3... not so much.
#39
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:22
All these variables and all they did was cameo them. The advertising and marketing was blatantly false, and they dare insult our intelligence by saying we don't understand their "art".
Well, this "cultural barbarian" is fed-up with that haughty rethoric. No more BS.
#40
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:22
#41
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:23
#42
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:23
I promised that if the game did not have NG+ I was not buying it...thus once it was confirmed that there was indeed no NG+ I did not buy it
#43
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:23
DA2 was however a much worse game IMO.
#44
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:25
#45
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:26
Has to be it!Roxy Lalonde wrote...
Poshible wrote...
Why do I keep constantly being in agreeance with you on most points?Roxy Lalonde wrote...
I loved DAO so much - more than I think I love ME at the moment, actually - but DA2 killed my enthusiasm for the franchise. For me, DA2 was bad throughout. ME3 was brilliant until the last few minutes, and seeing as I subscribe to the indoctrination theory,I actually like the endings. Just a bit upset with the lack of follow-up explanation. Unless they're not a hallucination used for metatheatrical indoctrination of the player. In which case, I loathe them.
But ME3 is still miles ahead of DA2 in quality.
You have great taste, that's what it is. Obviously.
#46
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:27
but only the end sucks in Me3
so yeah DA2 I choose you
#47
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:27
Say what you like about the execution of the 3 big events at the end of DA2 - they were all foreshadowed in all three acts. The lyrium idol has been doing it's thing for three acts, Anders has gradually been getting more desperate and radical, and Orsino has been helping that stupid Orlesian blood mage who helped get your mum killed. So every single thing in that ending, though it may seem to come out of left field, does NOT suddenly appear in the last 10 minutes. ME3: see Starchild.
Also, DA2's strength was it's characters and it KNEW it. Hawke's family and friends were the best thing about that game, and the end of the game kept the emphasis on them, their worldviews and their relationships to the main protagonist (especially if one of your siblings is still alive and PARTICULARLY if they're templar or circle mage, and also if you didn't lock any of the companion's friendships/rivalries down). ME3 dumps the characters by the wayside the minute the Elevator To Heaven appears, including Shepard.
Also, as a framing device? Varric and Cassandra >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Storytime with Grandpa. (Hey, we knew Varric, it played around with the unreliable narrator nicely throughout, and it didn't just throw the framing device out of nowhere right at the end with no context.)
#48
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:28
I did not have any problems with DA2 I like DA2 enjoyed it(except the dungeon repeat thing).
Its sad that nothing will come new for DA2.
But ME3 is the hugest letdown in all from game design to story.If not for the characters from ME1 and ME2 there is no reason to buy ME3, there are better games.
Its feels sometimes like one big giant plot hole that has eaten ME1 and ME2.
#49
Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:30
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Posté 31 mars 2012 - 11:31





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