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Bioware's misstep with Tali's face has far larger consequences.


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Talis face is a no-win situation for Bioware. You have a character that people love solely on her personality without any idea what she looks like. Everyone has already developed their own personal look for her in their minds. There is no way for them to reveal how she looks without upsetting someone.

I honestly envisioned them as a sort of 'Satyr' like people anyway, so showing a fairly human top half doesn't really kill the vision for me. IMO, people having lived their whole lives encased in suits should not actually come out of them looking "pretty" right away. Ever see what your skin looks like after getting a cast taken off?

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Ossborn76 wrote...

I am well versed in Photoshop myself, so I consider this photoshopped Getty image as very badly done... especially the hand is so damn ugly... the whole picture is a candidate for Photoshopdisasters.com.

For my very own headcanon, I prefer this fanmade picture from deviantart .  It´s a great deal better than the shopped picture!


I never liked that one, reminds me too much of an Asari.

I always perfected this one http://fc03.devianta...6410ed7444a.jpg

Modifié par jarms48, 31 mars 2012 - 11:45 .


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The main thing that threw me off which can't really be explained away by ~ooh blurry photography~ was how much HAIR she had. Humans are the only race in Mass Effect that I can remember who have hair on their heads (as we know it). Is there a physiological explanation/theory for why quarians have hair? Because I can't really.. think.. of one..

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Ossborn76 wrote...

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ugh I hate that design. Its thrown around here all the time. Those head flap shapes are too reminiscent of the Asari/Drell/Turians in my opinion, and I much prefer a much more human model for the Quarian. I like the idea that there is an alian race out there that humans can relate to when it comes to appearances.

I'd say this popuar fan art is a lot closer to what I would prefer Tali to look like.


No matter who likes which design better, I think we can sum this up as: Still a better ending ... whoops... design for Talis face ;)


Too true. Though I think we can all agree that all would be forgiven if only they modeled Tali's face an showed it to us in game, no matter where the inspiration for it came from.

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 I really like Tali (that's first thing :P ) and I really like the in-game picture... But it is showing how lazy BW was on doing this, there is no space between fingers par example.
Also if stupid IGN chcick get her own in game model why Tali (who is  ultra-extremly more important for ME universe than some stupid reporter) doesn't get a full 3D model? Why?
Are We supposed to give ME3 10/10 as IGN did (possibly even before they seen they game but as soon as they seen cash) to get full-in-game model of the most important quarian in the universe?

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Oh that is gorgeous. I was sad that Quarians are basically humans with 3 fingers and glowing eyes. When I saw Katy perry's ET video, I thought "ugh I bet that's what they are going to make Tali look like. A human with deer legs". Javik said that even primitive Quarians were considered attractive and they are an emotional people so I was expecting a lot more then some sun glare photo with a mangled hand.

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TexasToast712 wrote...

 If some **** hadn't ruined it for everyone and let it be known it was a photoshop, would you give a damn. I think it was done really well and handled perfectly.

part of the reason is she looks completely HUMAN except her hand.  There are plenty of people didn't find out until after they finished their game.  So wouldn't it be a valid complain for them?

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I would agree with that

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appleyum wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 If some **** hadn't ruined it for everyone and let it be known it was a photoshop, would you give a damn. I think it was done really well and handled perfectly.

part of the reason is she looks completely HUMAN except her hand.  There are plenty of people didn't find out until after they finished their game.  So wouldn't it be a valid complain for them?



No, because I guarantee if they would have made her look like some ugly alien in that photoshop the rage would be x100.

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appleyum wrote...

The part I don't understand is if they were going to use a human picture why they didn't just use Ash Sroka? All other female love interest's face are base off of their voice actor's looks



Liara's face model and voice actor are not the same, if I recall correctly.


Besides, it's not like Tali's face comes from some unknown girl from the internet. Hammasa Kohistani was Miss England 2005 (the first Muslim to hold that title). She is damn beautiful. And it fits the "Ayran" vibe I get from the Quarians (Roma people and Southwest Asians).

My only real gripe is that they didn't do a 3-D rendering of the face in the portrait in the game. It would have been nice if all the fans got to see Tali without her mask.

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A lot of people right now are complaining about how human she is, but im pretty sure its stated in the codex all the way back in ME1 that Quarians look a lot like humans.

I've pretty much always expected Tali to have hair, maybe slightly pointed ears, techy bits and pieces scattered throughout, regular nose and lips, maybe some strange alien pupils, and slightly pale purple skin.

also im pretty sure the only voice actress whose character is based off of her looks is Yvonne/Miranda lol

Modifié par Acidrain92, 31 mars 2012 - 11:51 .


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Navasha wrote...

Talis face is a no-win situation for Bioware. You have a character that people love solely on her personality without any idea what she looks like. Everyone has already developed their own personal look for her in their minds. There is no way for them to reveal how she looks without upsetting someone.


Sure, not everyone would have liked it. But if they would have put more effort into it than none at all, people would have acknowledged that. "I personally don't like the way, she looks like, but I can see, that you put in a lot of work and I can respect that." And if it would have been done right, like the revealing scene of Rannoch I mentioned, most people, may they have been Talimancers or not, would have loved it, I'm absolutely sure.

As it is now, it is more like "It doesn't look that bad, but it feels absolutely lazy and insulting, so I don't like it." Now it is not the way, how she looks, that angers people, but the way, she the picture was created.

If they would have cut this boring and completely useless journalist out of the game and put the money, time and effort in Tali instead, they could have achieved great things.

Modifié par Gerudan, 31 mars 2012 - 11:52 .


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Acidrain92 wrote...

I'd say this popuar fan art is a lot closer to what I would prefer Tali to look like.


The cheeks :sick: I have never liked that one no matter how well they try to make it seem cute. In this version she looks quite ill and sickly.

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jarms48 wrote...

Acidrain92 wrote...

I'd say this popuar fan art is a lot closer to what I would prefer Tali to look like.


The cheeks :sick: I have never liked that one no matter how well they try to make it seem cute. In this version she looks quite ill and sickly.


well I think thats the point. The Quarians are a frail and vulnerable people. But I can see what you mean.

Still at least those cheeks make her look SLIGHTLY alien.

Modifié par Acidrain92, 31 mars 2012 - 11:53 .


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jarms48 wrote...

Ossborn76 wrote...

I am well versed in Photoshop myself, so I consider this photoshopped Getty image as very badly done... especially the hand is so damn ugly... the whole picture is a candidate for Photoshopdisasters.com.

For my very own headcanon, I prefer this fanmade picture from deviantart .  It´s a great deal better than the shopped picture!


I never liked that one, reminds me too much of an Asari.

I always perfected this one http://fc03.devianta...6410ed7444a.jpg

Asari with huge and ugly ear, don't know why so many people like it. This version from your quote is my favorite too, wierd, but in the recent poll almost nobody voted for it.

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omskman wrote...

jarms48 wrote...

Ossborn76 wrote...

I am well versed in Photoshop myself, so I consider this photoshopped Getty image as very badly done... especially the hand is so damn ugly... the whole picture is a candidate for Photoshopdisasters.com.

For my very own headcanon, I prefer this fanmade picture from deviantart .  It´s a great deal better than the shopped picture!


I never liked that one, reminds me too much of an Asari.

I always perfected this one http://fc03.devianta...6410ed7444a.jpg

Asari with huge and ugly ear, don't know why so many people like it. This version from your quote is my favorite too, wierd, but in the recent poll almost nobody voted for it.


care to link to the poll?

also I dont really like that one because for whatever reason it just makes her look...evil xD

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Acidrain92 wrote...

jarms48 wrote...

Acidrain92 wrote...

I'd say this popuar fan art is a lot closer to what I would prefer Tali to look like.


The cheeks :sick: I have never liked that one no matter how well they try to make it seem cute. In this version she looks quite ill and sickly.


well I think thats the point. The Quarians are a frail and vulnerable people. But I can see what you mean.

Still at least those cheeks make her look SLIGHTLY alien.


Just looking at my post there, I should add I didn't want it to sound rude if that's what it came across as, but this is the internet and if you were offended then I am sorry.

But thanks for understanding my point, but to me those cheeks look to be covered in dead skin flakes, the areas around her mouth are purple which look very similar to the texture of bruises. Personally I was on the fence regarding her face, a part of me wanted to see it, but another part just wanted to leave it up to my imagination.

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I like how she looks. Sorry OP.

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Yea, was never really interested in tali that much. Never romanced her, but its pretty funny when you walk in on her and garrus making out prior to the last mission in ME3. But her voice actor is pretty attractive, dont see why they wouldnt just use her..

Off topic - just found out that adam Bladwin voiced Kal'Reegar, WTF!!! Reegar should be worth like 500 EMS points that dude was a F*cking Bad ass.

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The photo is fine. Lets try to make Bioware include Tali's face in-game in a DLC.

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Acidrain92 wrote...
care to link to the poll?

also I dont really like that one because for whatever reason it just makes her look...evil xD

I can't recall exact topic or poll name, tried to find it with few keywords: "tali's face", "poll face", "favourite tali", etc, but failed miserably.

edit: found it: http://social.biowar...7&poll_id=29905

Modifié par omskman, 31 mars 2012 - 12:11 .


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Actually just to appease the fans they should of just added a face customizer for her. That way we could of made her look exactly as we imagined her.

Pathetic and stupid post yes. Internet 1, jarms 0.

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It would have been better to not show her face at all, that would have tel us keep our own picture of her instead. That's the beauty of her appearance I think.

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I never romanced Tali, so I may not be as "into her" as a lot of ME fans seem to be (though I still love her character)... but I had hoped that her face, and indeed the Quarians in general would remain a mystery.

However I can understand why those who romanced her would really want to see her face, and that's why it seems so cheap to have it done in a photo, and a lazy one at that.

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huntsman2310 wrote...

Grunt mentions that a Quarian takes effort to stab, as you have to twist the knife through their plates first.


I recall Grunt mentioning Turians and not Quarians...