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[teh DRUMPf!!]

Evi and Tempest are fine. Tempest is nothing like Locust.

And, this list needs more Scimitar. Heavy and its touted rapid-fire feature from before is nonexistant. No reason to take it over any other shotgun, and I don't see anyone ever wielding it either.

[Iezza]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Yes, it is fine. Don't get agree? Bioware does. Get over it.

BW thinks it's fine? You base that off what exactly, the ever-growing list of balance changes which include it or the deafening silence they've given in response to concerns about it? That, like absolutely everything else I've ever seen you say, is nothing but your opinion coated in a thick layer of "nuh uh, I'm right cuz I said I'm right!" and exactly zero well thought out arguments to defend your side.

I love it when you are angry. Your arguments make no sense. Bioware thinks it is fine otherwise it would have received a DPS buff by now.

You are worse than a brony and i hope everyone bans you.

[Atheosis]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Evi and Tempest are fine. Tempest is nothing like Locust.

And, this list needs more Scimitar. Heavy and its touted rapid-fire feature from before is nonexistant. No reason to take it over any other shotgun, and I don't see anyone ever wielding it either.

I could definitely get behind a buff for the Scimitar, though I've used it to moderate success on Gold.

[TexasToast712]

Iezza wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Yes, it is fine. Don't get agree? Bioware does. Get over it.

BW thinks it's fine? You base that off what exactly, the ever-growing list of balance changes which include it or the deafening silence they've given in response to concerns about it? That, like absolutely everything else I've ever seen you say, is nothing but your opinion coated in a thick layer of "nuh uh, I'm right cuz I said I'm right!" and exactly zero well thought out arguments to defend your side.

I love it when you are angry. Your arguments make no sense. Bioware thinks it is fine otherwise it would have received a DPS buff by now.

You are worse than a brony and i hope everyone bans you.

You hate bronies? You might as well ban 90% of this community then. MLP IS AWESOME!

[Iezza]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Iezza wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Yes, it is fine. Don't get agree? Bioware does. Get over it.

BW thinks it's fine? You base that off what exactly, the ever-growing list of balance changes which include it or the deafening silence they've given in response to concerns about it? That, like absolutely everything else I've ever seen you say, is nothing but your opinion coated in a thick layer of "nuh uh, I'm right cuz I said I'm right!" and exactly zero well thought out arguments to defend your side.

I love it when you are angry. Your arguments make no sense. Bioware thinks it is fine otherwise it would have received a DPS buff by now.

You are worse than a brony and i hope everyone bans you.

You hate bronies? You might as well ban 90% of this community then. MLP IS AWESOME!

Report this guy, please, i have.

"aggravating a situation in an constructive thread"

[TexasToast712]

Iezza wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Iezza wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Yes, it is fine. Don't get agree? Bioware does. Get over it.

BW thinks it's fine? You base that off what exactly, the ever-growing list of balance changes which include it or the deafening silence they've given in response to concerns about it? That, like absolutely everything else I've ever seen you say, is nothing but your opinion coated in a thick layer of "nuh uh, I'm right cuz I said I'm right!" and exactly zero well thought out arguments to defend your side.

I love it when you are angry. Your arguments make no sense. Bioware thinks it is fine otherwise it would have received a DPS buff by now.

You are worse than a brony and i hope everyone bans you.

You hate bronies? You might as well ban 90% of this community then. MLP IS AWESOME!

Report this guy, please, i have.

"aggravating a situation in an constructive thread"

You are the one who steered the conversation to Bronies and insults.

[robarcool]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 This list is a total failure. These guns are perfectly fine. Especially the Revenant and Evi.

You just said the GPR is perfectly fine.  I didn't even realize this thread was a contest until I saw you lose.

Yes, it is fine. Don't get agree? Bioware does. Get over it.

Umm, Bioware even says the endings are fine.

[Rifneno]

I know I shouldn't ask, but I can't help myself... bronies? MLP? What the hell are we talking about?

[Sabresandiego]

Most of the guns you listed suck, but the scorpion is really good. I havent gotten it since the demo, but it was one of the best heavy pistols in the demo once you leveled it up and learned how to use it. shoot at the ground underneath enemies.

[TexasToast712]

robarcool wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 This list is a total failure. These guns are perfectly fine. Especially the Revenant and Evi.

You just said the GPR is perfectly fine.  I didn't even realize this thread was a contest until I saw you lose.

Yes, it is fine. Don't get agree? Bioware does. Get over it.

Umm, Bioware even says the endings are fine.

Why wouldn't they?

[Atheosis]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Most of the guns you listed suck, but the scorpion is really good. I havent gotten it since the demo, but it was one of the best heavy pistols in the demo once you leveled it up and learned how to use it. shoot at the ground underneath enemies.

This has been discussed, and I agree it's the best way to use it.  But it doesn't change that the gun still has ammo issues and that the bomblets often like to wait to explode even if you are targeting near an enemy's feet.  And let me try to clarify.  The gun doesn't suck per se, so much as suck for an N7.

[robarcool]

TexasToast712 wrote...

robarcool wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 This list is a total failure. These guns are perfectly fine. Especially the Revenant and Evi.

You just said the GPR is perfectly fine.  I didn't even realize this thread was a contest until I saw you lose.

Yes, it is fine. Don't get agree? Bioware does. Get over it.

Umm, Bioware even says the endings are fine.

Why wouldn't they?

I am trying to point out that Bioware will say that everything is fine with their game, because they created it and won't admit anything that they botched up. So using that logic isn't necessarily a good tactic. That's all. Feedback will always come and people will give their opinions over their (Bioware's) product, even if they aren't in line with bioware's own.

Modifié par robarcool, 31 mars 2012 - 04:12 .

[Elecbender]

Here's an interesting alternative for the Arc Pistol:

Increase its encumbrance to 1.75 - 1.15 but give it 12 more base damage and make it consume 4 shots per charge for the same charge time (the second part is actually an advantage rather than a disadvantage).

[Rifneno]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Most of the guns you listed suck, but the scorpion is really good. I havent gotten it since the demo, but it was one of the best heavy pistols in the demo once you leveled it up and learned how to use it. shoot at the ground underneath enemies.

You can't really judge an N7 by a leveled up version.  There's three kinds of people with high level N7 weapons: the incredibly lucky, the incredibly hardcore grinders, and cheaters.

[Atheosis]

Elecbender wrote...

Here's an interesting alternative for the Arc Pistol:

Increase its encumbrance to 1.75 - 1.15 but give it 12 more base damage and make it consume 4 shots per charge for the same charge time (the second part is actually an advantage rather than a disadvantage).

That's one freaking heavy pistol.

[okita_luc]

I think Arc needs a buff on damage to justify the weight, it's a rare weapon with a cool design, the charged shot needs to be a lot better because it is very slow to charge

[Manuel La Bor]

Marksman makes some of these a lot better, others need more help.

I posted dps for every weapon with marksman here.
http://social.biowar.../index/10844238

[robarcool]

Atheosis wrote...

Elecbender wrote...

Here's an interesting alternative for the Arc Pistol:

Increase its encumbrance to 1.75 - 1.15 but give it 12 more base damage and make it consume 4 shots per charge for the same charge time (the second part is actually an advantage rather than a disadvantage).

That's one freaking heavy pistol.

Yep. At least make the weight of the pistols mean something. A pistol that weighs as much as a shotgun? Wow, just wow.

[RiouHotaru]

If the Revenant is bad at long range...then it's possible you're not supposed to use it at long range. Really.

[Sabresandiego]

A few of the guns on this list are actually good. Such as viper and scorpion. Viper is an excellent gun on an infiltrator with the 40% sniper rifle damage bonus. Once you get a black widow or a valiant you wont use it anymore though. Scorpion is a top 10 gun. You just need to be the host and not be using a scorpion 1.

About the wraith/eviscerator, these guns suck because of how unresponsive they are. There is some kind of refire delay not only between shots, but from a shot to a reload. The guns just feel unresponsive. The wraith is a decent gun, but not good for an n7.

Also, every single automatic weapon in this game is garbage in my opinion.

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 31 mars 2012 - 07:29 .

[Atheosis]

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Marksman makes some of these a lot better, others need more help.

I posted dps for every weapon with marksman here.
http://social.biowar.../index/10844238

Yeah I saw that.  Nice bit of information there.  Though I really think gun balance should be based on other guns more than a class ability that only one class has.  I mean it definitely makes the Revenant much, much better, but the Revenant, in general, kind of struggles because its DPS tends to only hit the target half the time and it can't land a lot of headshots (the bread and butter of most good guns in Gold).  The Turian Soldier is however a major reason I don't think its a good idea to increase the Revenant's damage.  A Turian Soldier would benefit exponentially from increase in damage while tightening the Revenant's bullet grouping (recoil and accuracy combined) would end up being less beneficial (even possibly a bit redundant) for him.

[Atheosis]

Sabresandiego wrote...

A few of the guns on this list are actually good. Such as viper and scorpion. Scorpion is a top 10 gun. You just need to be the host and not be using a scorpion 1.

About the wraith/eviscerator, these guns suck because of how unresponsive they are. There is some kind of refire delay not only between shots, but from a shot to a reload. The guns just feel unresponsive. The wraith is a decent gun, but not good for an n7. Every single automatic weapon in this game is garbage in my opinion.

Please tell me how the Viper is good in any way, shape, or form.  

[Sabresandiego]

Viper is good on an infiltrator, it just becomes obsolete once you get a black widow or valiant. You can outscore a widow user with a viper on trash enemies, the widow only outclasses the viper due to its heavy damage on big armored targets.

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 31 mars 2012 - 07:31 .

[Atheosis]

RiouHotaru wrote...

If the Revenant is bad at long range...then it's possible you're not supposed to use it at long range. Really.

Which is kind of the problem with the gun.  Obviously it doesn't need to super precise, but its current level of accuracy really hurts it relative to other guns, primarily by minimizing headshots which are very important on Gold.

[Atheosis]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Viper is good on an infiltrator, it just becomes obsolete once you get a black widow or valiant. You can outscore a widow user with a viper on trash enemies, the widow only outclasses the viper due to its heavy damage on big armored targets.

The Mantis is worlds better than the Viper, so it is obsolete out of the gate.  And just so you know, outside the possible exception of the common guns, no gun is ever supposed to outright become obsolete.  I mean the Raptor never becomes obsolete and its an uncomomon just like the Viper.  

Modifié par Atheosis, 31 mars 2012 - 07:37 .