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[shinyelf]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but as far as I understand the multiplayer we have now was originally part of a mass effect themed MMO that was cancelled

[Baihu1983]

Single player game with MP forced on to it. NO THANK YOU! Should have just been an digital release spin off.

[vutt]

Judging from reaction I'd say multi-player is one of the ME3 success areas.

[kmcd5722]

I was originally very much against the idea of MP, posted tireless rants about why it was a waste of resources, ruins SP, etc., etc. However, MP has been pretty entertaining. It's no COD or Halo, but still pretty fun. As it is required to get one of the endings, I figured I would take some time, and I have certainly enjoyed my time with it.

[AxisEvolve]

 The same people that wanted James Vega and action mode. 

[zsom]

Overule wrote...

Much appreciation to people who've clued into the fact that I'm not upset because I dislike Horde Mode/Multiplayer in general. I'm upset because it's taking up valuable real estate in an already overcrowded neighborhood. ME3 needed every free byte of data it could get to wrap up the story proper... and it's almost certain that the multiplayer played a part in the tricolor ending failstravaganza.

Let me just make a wild guess here, you have absolutely no idea how much space MP is taking up on the disk... Am I right or am I right?

[Sgt Stryker]

I wanted an MP-focused spin-off title set in the ME universe. Does that count?

[AxisEvolve]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

I wanted an MP-focused spin-off title set in the ME universe. Does that count?

Like this?

http://www.cinemable...aked-40787.html 

[Deganis76]

OP and all: I wish you would stop pretending to speak for every Mass Effect fan when you vocalize your dislike of Multiplayer. I have been a Bioware fan since Baldurs Gate (played every title since) and I happen to enjoy the heck out of Multiplayer.

And let's not forget: Baldur's Gate, the title that put BW on the map, had a multiplayer component. You could play the main story with your friends... Puzzling when people accuse Bioware of going against its roots, but I guess it is easy to overlook things...

[Lycius]

Taritu wrote...

LGTX wrote...

I like multiplayer. Dunno. Quite enjoying even now, and the weekend events are just incentives to keep people engaged, effective practice so far. Shoehorned or not, I like the way it turned out. Sure as hell beats the Team Assault prototype it grew out from.

Some people like it.  But very very few fans wanted it.  And those who did ask for multiplayer usually wante co-op with someone else able to play squadmates in the main campaign.

This...

Horde mode was a blatant cater to COD fans, hell, I have friends who haven't even played the campaign or the first 2 games but play the MP.

Other MP games Bioware put out have co-op MP for the campaign. I was floored that Bioware made a pointless hordemode.

[Lycius]

Deganis76 wrote...

OP and all: I wish you would stop pretending to speak for every Mass Effect fan when you vocalize your dislike of Multiplayer. I have been a Bioware fan since Baldurs Gate (played every title since) and I happen to enjoy the heck out of Multiplayer.

And let's not forget: Baldur's Gate, the title that put BW on the map, had a multiplayer component. You could play the main story with your friends... Puzzling when people accuse Bioware of going against its roots, but I guess it is easy to overlook things...

Are you not comprehending that what we got was horde-mode and what you just referenced was co-op MP of the campaign?

[Dude_in_the_Room]

abaris wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...


The multilayer has like 5 maps only.  The enemies and character classes are just variations of the single player.

I enjoy the multiplayer but you guys are giving it too much credit.

Time, money to get it functional, human ressources, although they claim it was a different team.

I would have every bit of understanding if it had been an afterthought - an expansion of some kind. But simply tacking it onto the last part of a well established single player series smacks of Gung Ho and some not so clever marketing ploy.

Ah.....generalizations.  Well, going to the bathroom and having a plumber fix the toilets takes money, human resources and all that....so maybe bathroom breaks are worthless too.

[Nelatherion]

I didn't "want" it. But I freaking love it.

[aimlessgun]

Nobody clamored for it. They saw a way to make money and they went for it. People have spent tons of money on the item packs.

And for how little effort it feels they put into it, it works pretty well and is quite fun.

[kalle90]

Ah yes. How good it would be if we got story co-op instead of this. Replace the useless AI characters with people who can actually fight, AND no resources spent on million different characters and unlockables, galactic readiness, online only and the rest.

I would rather play as a Garrus-Kaidan-Vega-Liara-Ashley-EDI sidekick for someone else's Shepard. Especially if that hidden Shepard (who I pick but won't play as) gets XP and credits.

[abaris]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...


Ah.....generalizations.  Well, going to the bathroom and having a plumber fix the toilets takes money, human resources and all that....so maybe bathroom breaks are worthless too.

Keep trying. You're a bright kid, so I guess you get the gist of what is meant.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

abaris wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...


Ah.....generalizations.  Well, going to the bathroom and having a plumber fix the toilets takes money, human resources and all that....so maybe bathroom breaks are worthless too.

Keep trying. You're a bright kid, so I guess you get the gist of what is meant.

I just thought you would apreciate it considerring it doesn't matter if the multiplayer budget/time was miniscule when compared to the single player.

But as long as it fits the stupidly broad "IT COSTED MONEY SO IT WAS A WASTE!!!" viewpoint, then I guess you have the advantage.

Modifié par Dude_in_the_Room, 31 mars 2012 - 08:29 .

[Paulus magintie]

Just so you know if you got the pinnicle station for Mass Effect 1 you would notice ME3 is just the pinnicle station with a few changes.

So we have had muliplayer in a raw form and only accessable by 1 person since the beginning so why are you crying about it now?

[Krogangreetings]

Paulus magintie wrote...

Just so you know if you got the pinnicle station for Mass Effect 1 you would notice ME3 is just the pinnicle station with a few changes.

So we have had muliplayer in a raw form and only accessable by 1 person since the beginning so why are you crying about it now?

increased emphasis (EMS unreachable through SP only games plus an achievement blocking people from 100% without online) would be my guess, that and the fact MP is added to everything now regardless of suitabitlity

[Sebbe1337o]

Taritu wrote...

EA wanted multiplayer, and they're the only people whose opinions really matter.

This^



Bioware said that MP wouldn't make the SP less good, but apparently it did. I wonder how much of the budget went to MP, and the team making the MP could've helped with the SP instead so that the game might've been finished, AND had a good ending that made sense.


Not gonna make this a "the endings suck"-thread, but seriously, I honestly think this game would've been so much better without MP.

[Paulus magintie]

Krogangreetings wrote...

Paulus magintie wrote...

Just so you know if you got the pinnicle station for Mass Effect 1 you would notice ME3 is just the pinnicle station with a few changes.

So we have had muliplayer in a raw form and only accessable by 1 person since the beginning so why are you crying about it now?

increased emphasis (EMS unreachable through SP only games plus an achievement blocking people from 100% without online) would be my guess, that and the fact MP is added to everything now regardless of suitabitlity

Last I checked BioWare did say you can get the good ending with points to spare by doing just SP.

[Salvatore510]

Just because we didn't ask for it/want it doesn't mean we can't enjoy it.

I thought it was a horrible decision to put it in but it works well, doesn't take away from anything and anyone who says multiplayer affected the single player is dead wrong.

[Krogangreetings]

Paulus magintie wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

Paulus magintie wrote...

Just so you know if you got the pinnicle station for Mass Effect 1 you would notice ME3 is just the pinnicle station with a few changes.

So we have had muliplayer in a raw form and only accessable by 1 person since the beginning so why are you crying about it now?

increased emphasis (EMS unreachable through SP only games plus an achievement blocking people from 100% without online) would be my guess, that and the fact MP is added to everything now regardless of suitabitlity

Last I checked BioWare did say you can get the good ending with points to spare by doing just SP.

yeah they did, but many people have data mined the games and pretty much proven you can't

[Sebbe1337o]

@Paulus

It's been calculated, you can get a good ending, but not *the* best ending without MP.


@Salvatore510

Why is one dead wrong if they say they think MP took away from SP?
Imo it's logical to assume that some manpower and money they spent on the MP could've been spent on the SP. And the SP could use more polish

[Mastermyth2]

Its in because Bioware wanted it in. They are the creators of the game and thus decide what they want in it for us to experience. Why you assume this is 12-year old behaviour is simply beyond me. God forbid that anyone creating something requires fan input first before making decisions.