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[CheetahZ1]

Does Marksman lower the refire rate for Semi's?

[Merkit91]

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Ha, Incisor X have the same dps as Black widow X (what are the chances to unlock BW X anyway?). Add to this the fact that turians have bonus to stability (enough to fully negate incisor's recoil, I tested it) and the fact that any dmg reduction from enemy's armor can be almost fully countered by AP mod...
Is Incisor still useless?

Even with the turian's innate stability and firing from cover the recoil on that thing is abysmal. 

I have Incisor X and turian veteran gives +45% bonus to stability - recoil isn't so bad even when firing out of cover at long distances. For me, anyway.

I might give it another chance, I might of just been having an off day. It is still inferior to the vindicator though.

I'm not saying that incisor is better then vindicator (or any gun btw), all I'm saying is that if you have high-level incisor, you may as well use it, it's not completely useless as many people seems to think (if you using in with turian of course).

[total47]

I don't see the Saber on there.

[Manuel La Bor]

total47 wrote...

I don't see the Saber on there.

I omitted it - I'll add it but it doesn't really benefit much from MM's fire rate bonus. 

[Manuel La Bor]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Marksman is poor compared to adrenaline rush.

It depends, for high rate and medium rate of fire weapons It is basically a wash, for slow firing weapons AR is king. 

[RazRei]

Lots of work their OP, thanks.

I have to ask is that DPS based on base weapons? IE GPS I and not something like GPS X?

[Atheosis]

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Ha, Incisor X have the same dps as Black widow X (what are the chances to unlock BW X anyway?). Add to this the fact that turians have bonus to stability (enough to fully negate incisor's recoil, I tested it) and the fact that any dmg reduction from enemy's armor can be almost fully countered by AP mod...
Is Incisor still useless?

Even with the turian's innate stability and firing from cover the recoil on that thing is abysmal. 

I have Incisor X and turian veteran gives +45% bonus to stability - recoil isn't so bad even when firing out of cover at long distances. For me, anyway.

I might give it another chance, I might of just been having an off day. It is still inferior to the vindicator though.

Nope.  It's just the worst gun in the game.  That or the Viper.

[Manuel La Bor]

CheetahZ1 wrote...

Does Marksman lower the refire rate for Semi's?

It does, the bullets in the burst come out much faster - it is hard to get an accurate number so I just posted the rpm based dps and lets you guys use that as a baseline.

[Manuel La Bor]

RazRei wrote...

Lots of work their OP, thanks.

I have to ask is that DPS based on base weapons? IE GPS I and not something like GPS X?

Glad I could be of service, all weapon stats are based on level ten weapons. So if you have a 5 for example, It is gonna be less but not by a huge amount - the damage increases per weapon level are incremental.

Modifié par Manuel La Bor, 31 mars 2012 - 06:39 .

[Merkit91]

Atheosis wrote...

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Ha, Incisor X have the same dps as Black widow X (what are the chances to unlock BW X anyway?). Add to this the fact that turians have bonus to stability (enough to fully negate incisor's recoil, I tested it) and the fact that any dmg reduction from enemy's armor can be almost fully countered by AP mod...
Is Incisor still useless?

Even with the turian's innate stability and firing from cover the recoil on that thing is abysmal. 

I have Incisor X and turian veteran gives +45% bonus to stability - recoil isn't so bad even when firing out of cover at long distances. For me, anyway.

I might give it another chance, I might of just been having an off day. It is still inferior to the vindicator though.

Nope.  It's just the worst gun in the game.  That or the Viper.

What about GPR, Phaeston and Locust then?

[RazRei]

Manuel La Bor wrote...

RazRei wrote...

Lots of work their OP, thanks.

I have to ask is that DPS based on base weapons? IE GPS I and not something like GPS X?

Glad I could be of service, all weapon stats are based on level ten weapons. So if you have a 5 for example, It is gonna be less but not by a huge amount - the damage increases per weapon level are incremental.

Ah sorry I skimmed the 1st post and went right to the DPS numbers.

[Manuel La Bor]

RazRei wrote...



Ah sorry I skimmed the 1st post and went right to the DPS numbers.

No problem, I'll try editing the op for readability. 

[Manuel La Bor]

[quote]Merkit91 wrote...


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What about GPR, Phaeston and Locust then?[/quote]

The locust is just a GPR with lower fire rate and a much smaller mag, Phaeston is actually better than the avenger in some ways - and the GPR is just fun as **** to run around with in bronze. 

[Merkit91]

I see Saber in the list now, thanks. What about Falcon, Talon, Arc pistol and Eagle? Will they be listed?

[Manuel La Bor]

@merkit
I see Saber in the list now, thanks. What about Falcon, Talon, Arc pistol and Eagle? Will they be listed?

Yeah I'll put those up I suppose. just by looking though they don't look like they're gonna be very good even with MM.

Modifié par Manuel La Bor, 31 mars 2012 - 06:57 .

[Manuel La Bor]

Added talon, falcon, saber, arc pistol and eagle.

[Atheosis]

Merkit91 wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Ha, Incisor X have the same dps as Black widow X (what are the chances to unlock BW X anyway?). Add to this the fact that turians have bonus to stability (enough to fully negate incisor's recoil, I tested it) and the fact that any dmg reduction from enemy's armor can be almost fully countered by AP mod...
Is Incisor still useless?

Even with the turian's innate stability and firing from cover the recoil on that thing is abysmal. 

I have Incisor X and turian veteran gives +45% bonus to stability - recoil isn't so bad even when firing out of cover at long distances. For me, anyway.

I might give it another chance, I might of just been having an off day. It is still inferior to the vindicator though.

Nope.  It's just the worst gun in the game.  That or the Viper.

What about GPR, Phaeston and Locust then?

The Incisor and Viper are worse, and really, it's not even close.

[Merkit91]

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Added talon, falcon, saber, arc pistol and eagle.

Thanks again, but I have trouble at finding eagle in this list.

[Atheosis]

LOL at the Viper coming in a just over 500 DPS. Good lord that gun id bad.

[agentofatlas7]

Ponei wrote...

Is turian soldier any good? I have the krogan soldier but none of them seem to be good on gold, or at least not without a good weapon
What weapon do you recommend for soldiers on gold?

Turian Soldier is great. This class can handle any weapon and has great survivability.

Ever since i got the Hornet I been trying to emulate this guy's build.



Its been great so far.

Modifié par praliban, 31 mars 2012 - 07:14 .

[Merkit91]

Atheosis wrote...

LOL at the Viper coming in a just over 500 DPS. Good lord that gun id bad.

Yeah, that surprised me too - I expected better from this weapon.

Buff requested, bioware.

[Manuel La Bor]

Merkit91 wrote...

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Added talon, falcon, saber, arc pistol and eagle.

Thanks again, but I have trouble at finding eagle in this list.

My bad, I entered the data in too fast and passed over the eagle last time. Fixed.

[Merkit91]

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Added talon, falcon, saber, arc pistol and eagle.

Thanks again, but I have trouble at finding eagle in this list.

My bad, I entered the data in too fast and passed over the eagle last time. Fixed.

Thanks.

531dps? For Eagle X??? And here I thought Hurricane was bad...

[Manuel La Bor]

Merkit91 wrote...

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Manuel La Bor wrote...

Added talon, falcon, saber, arc pistol and eagle.

Thanks again, but I have trouble at finding eagle in this list.

My bad, I entered the data in too fast and passed over the eagle last time. Fixed.

Thanks.

531dps? For Eagle X??? And here I thought Hurricane was bad...

Yep. At least the hurricane has insane dps to compensate for its impossible to use recoil, the eagle just looks like filler.

[Atheosis]

Merkit91 wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

LOL at the Viper coming in a just over 500 DPS. Good lord that gun id bad.

Yeah, that surprised me too - I expected better from this weapon.

Buff requested, bioware.

Oh I'm not surprised.  I know how terrible the Viper is.  I just thought it was funny to see it surrounded by numbers that are twice what it brings to the table.  

And, yes they need to buff it, and not just some piddly 10-20% damage buff, but a whopping 30-40% damage buff.  That's how woefully bad it is.

Modifié par Atheosis, 31 mars 2012 - 07:57 .