494 réponses à ce sujet

[Zan_Vaelius]

*skims through his Literary Theory notes*
Regarding the "getting it" part which annoys people.
In the Reader's-approach side of interpreting literature in the Literary Theory: The Meaning is created by every individual reader of the story -> Meaning that every user is right about him gets it his own way.

[The Angry One]

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

I see a lot of anti-enders asking the pro-enders "What did you like and what did you 'get' about the ending?" And I've yet to see a single answer to that question. I wonder why we, the anti-enders, think you're trolling?

or maybe you know the anti enders just dont like what the pro enders have to say because no matter what is said we are told we are wrong


thats a fact and you know it

i have given multiple explinations myself and you know what? same crap everyday by the vocal crowd


they can insult people so much before people get tired of it 

That's the excuse you keep using.
Explain the Normandy scene. Now.

[Evil Minion]

Bigdoser wrote...

I really want to know how people liked the ending I really want to understand why. It seems that no one has given me a good answer yet.

*sigh*

It's a matter of taste. If I liked Shakespeare and you didn't, would you want me to "prove" that I liked it and to provide evidence that it was "good?"

If you want me to answer specific questions, I will, but I can't "prove" it was "good."

Furthermore, I liked it because I did. I understand why others didn't. I'm not interested in changing anyone's opinion because I realize that the type of ending ME3 has generally tends not to be popular with Western audiences for various reasons. I will discuss why I liked it, but I will not "debate" it.

Whether or not something is "good" or "bad" is entirely subjectively. You can't "prove" it one way or another. 

[Tazzmission]

The Angry One wrote...

METALPUNKS wrote...

BaridBelBar wrote...

Obvious troll is obvious.

Of course that's all you can say. 
   


OP: I'm happy for you. I got it also. I loved it. For some people this is not ok. They want us to hate it. I started a thread about loving the ending and now I wish I would of jumped of a cliff instead. Hopefully your thread gets better response but as you can see above that isn't going to be the case. I hope you have hard skin because it's coming, trust me. Anyway it's awesome other people got it. Bioware truly did an amazing job. It's one of my favorite endings in a long long time. It was simple, perfect, spiritual and far from horrible. 

Hey METALPUNKS, you never did answer my counter to your Jesus comparison.

I will state it here. Jesus rejected Satan's temptation. Shepard did not. Explain why you compare the two.

why dont you make a thread on it and not hijack ops thread?

[Awoken Eyes]

These lolwut threads are getting annoying.

[wantedman dan]

OP makes me want to pour grape juice all over my $1300 Macbook.

[The Angry One]

Tazzmission wrote...

why dont you make a thread on it and not hijack ops thread?

Stop evading my points. OP and others here state the ending is solid and stands up on his own.
Whenever I ask for specific details as to your reasoning you don't respond.

If you "get it" and we don't it should be easy to explain in a logical uncounterable fashion, no?

Modifié par The Angry One, 31 mars 2012 - 06:37 .

[Caz Tirin]

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

I see a lot of anti-enders asking the pro-enders "What did you like and what did you 'get' about the ending?" And I've yet to see a single answer to that question. I wonder why we, the anti-enders, think you're trolling?

or maybe you know the anti enders just dont like what the pro enders have to say because no matter what is said we are told we are wrong


thats a fact and you know it

i have given multiple explinations myself and you know what? same crap everyday by the vocal crowd


they can insult people so much before people get tired of it 

But you haven't said anything except to repeat what is in this quoted post here.  You're also coming across very arrogant.  When people are asking, repeatedly, for what it is you like and "get", instead of saying "you wouldn't understand" like some hipster, perhaps you should try to explain it.

[Tazzmission]

The Angry One wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

I see a lot of anti-enders asking the pro-enders "What did you like and what did you 'get' about the ending?" And I've yet to see a single answer to that question. I wonder why we, the anti-enders, think you're trolling?

or maybe you know the anti enders just dont like what the pro enders have to say because no matter what is said we are told we are wrong


thats a fact and you know it

i have given multiple explinations myself and you know what? same crap everyday by the vocal crowd


they can insult people so much before people get tired of it 

That's the excuse you keep using.
Explain the Normandy scene. Now.

no its a fact your actions on trying to hijack this thread proves it

ive explained many times before on my ideas and you know what im sick of explaining

if you choose not to read my old posts or threads you know what? im not going to repeat myself

[Gruzmog]

Tazzmission wrote...

nope i wont stick to other forums because i have every right to go where i want and post in where i want

my attitude is if i dont like how people respond to someone like op yea ill call them out on it because they dont own this board


if they dont like it  tough and maybe they should start realizing that theres one member of this community who will challenge them on there comments

people can dog on me all they want because in the end its those people who end up being laughed at when posts of theres end up on other forum websites

It's great to stand up for someone that gets unjustly bashed for no reason. But you are arguing for a bad apple here while in an earlier post saying "the ending folks make topics without arguments too"

The OP:
- provides no arguments
- implies he is smarter then us all and that we just "didn't get it"

If you make a topic which just says I like it, its kind of pointless, but ok.
He on the other hand implies we are all not invested enougb in the story, or smart enough, or whatever to get what is obvious. That's a covered insult and quite frankly most people here did not even attack him but stayed with a: "Glad you liked it, I did not" It is just bad manners from the OP

Ofcourse we have our fair shade off inconsiderate asses aswell and probably even more so since the majority on the these boards atleast is anti ending.

But you are defending a lost cause here, I would council safing you're breath for someone who is unjustly attacked.

But ofcourse feel free to disagree with me :innocent:

[Ravenmyste]

Tazzmission wrote...

Dava Flava wrote...

I'm sorry, but earlier when I said "others didn't get it like I did," all I meant was others didn't see it the same way I did. I did not mean to imply that others could not understand the ending or were incapable of getting it; I was just indicating the difference of interpretations.

And, I'm not trying to convince people to like the ending, either, so I'm not about to provide a dissertation detailing how the ending is more than adequate. I just wanted to express that I enjoyed it the way it was. The Bioware team probably feels pretty bad about disappointing their fans and I wanted to give them some positive feedback.

bioware has positive feedback because you and i and others have given it to them

aye and unfortunately the haters are trying to drag us down with are saying that thinking that we're understood it that some how comes out to translate that we are trolling, there was 3 choices one form each prospective tim's control, and Anderson's point of view to destroy the reapers, but it went further then just destroying all the reapers it would destroy all AI and synthetics as well and also destroy all the relays that caused this problem in the first place.

[The Angry One]

Tazzmission wrote...

no its a fact your actions on trying to hijack this thread proves it

ive explained many times before on my ideas and you know what im sick of explaining

if you choose not to read my old posts or threads you know what? im not going to repeat myself

All I have ever seen you do is complain that we "don't get it" and that nobody listens to you.
Explain the Normandy scene. One scene. That's all you have to do. It should be easy.

[Iconoclaste]

I enjoy war and seeing people die. It's my personal taste, no one can put that in question. If anyone does, it's simply because he does not "get it".

If anyone asks why I love depressing themes and general confusion, I will simply answer that I don't have to, and no one can force me to.

Come on. Anyone can see why threads like these cannot be resolved peacefully : it's a trap.

[Ravenmyste]

The Angry One wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

why dont you make a thread on it and not hijack ops thread?

Stop evading my points. OP and others here state the ending is solid and stands up on his own.
Whenever I ask for specific details as to your reasoning you don't respond.

If you "get it" and we don't it should be easy to explain in a logical uncounterable fashion, no?

you question would open another attack  since you would just ignore it and continue you trolling on the ones that understood it.
 as for the Normandy scene  i can only think that  hackett ordered  everyone that could get way into FTL the ones that are stranded may not be the only once that was in FTL when it collapsed

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 31 mars 2012 - 06:43 .

[pettrox]

Dava Flava wrote...

Clearly, if I liked the ending and others don't, then they didn't get it like I did. That's not passive aggressive; that's factual.

way to act like your above every one else....
now while i do like the ending i do see where everyone else is comeing from in that things dont get resolved   and 
so on. but would i like a new endign. sure. if they keep the ending just clearfy something.

[Caz Tirin]

Ravenmyste wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Dava Flava wrote...

I'm sorry, but earlier when I said "others didn't get it like I did," all I meant was others didn't see it the same way I did. I did not mean to imply that others could not understand the ending or were incapable of getting it; I was just indicating the difference of interpretations.

And, I'm not trying to convince people to like the ending, either, so I'm not about to provide a dissertation detailing how the ending is more than adequate. I just wanted to express that I enjoyed it the way it was. The Bioware team probably feels pretty bad about disappointing their fans and I wanted to give them some positive feedback.

bioware has positive feedback because you and i and others have given it to them

aye and unfortunately the haters are trying to drag us down with are saying that thinking that we're understood it that some how comes out to translate that we are trolling, there was 3 choices one form each prospective tim's control, and Anderson's point of view to destroy the reapers, but it went further then just destroying all the reapers it would destroy all AI and synthetics as well and also destroy all the relays that caused this problem in the first place.

No one is "trying to drag you down".  Stop pretending to be a victim and just answer the question.  Or just keep evading the questions and troll on.

But at least admit you're trolling if you won't (or can't) explain why you like the ending and what you "get" about it.

Modifié par Caz Tirin, 31 mars 2012 - 06:42 .

[Evil Minion]

Caz Tirin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

I see a lot of anti-enders asking the pro-enders "What did you like and what did you 'get' about the ending?" And I've yet to see a single answer to that question. I wonder why we, the anti-enders, think you're trolling?

or maybe you know the anti enders just dont like what the pro enders have to say because no matter what is said we are told we are wrong


thats a fact and you know it

i have given multiple explinations myself and you know what? same crap everyday by the vocal crowd


they can insult people so much before people get tired of it 

But you haven't said anything except to repeat what is in this quoted post here.  You're also coming across very arrogant.  When people are asking, repeatedly, for what it is you like and "get", instead of saying "you wouldn't understand" like some hipster, perhaps you should try to explain it.

*double sigh*

There was nothing to "get." He interpretted the same events differently than you did.

Saying someone else didn't "get it" is merely a bad choice of words.

[XRelakX]

Dava Flava wrote...

Clearly, if I liked the ending and others don't, then they didn't get it like I did. That's not passive aggressive; that's factual.

Yeah dont worry if they tell you that your trolling or anything..its your opinion and no one can tell you that is right or wrong..

Anyways i did think the endings were good but ..i would welcome any kind of DLC that adds more content to mass effect..it doesnt matter if is about endings..is if before..as long it allows me to experience a bit more of ME universe is fine by me.

[The Angry One]

Ravenmyste wrote...


aye and unfortunately the haters are trying to drag us down with are saying that thinking that we're understood it that some how comes out to translate that we are trolling, there was 3 choices one form each prospective tim's control, and Anderson's point of view to destroy the reapers, but it went further then just destroying all the reapers it would destroy all AI and synthetics as well and also destroy all the relays that caused this problem in the first place.

And this is why you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the Mass Effect universe.
It should not be other's choices, it should be Shepard's. Also, the mass relays CAUSED NO PROBLEMS. To say the mass relays caused anything is ridiculous, it's like claiming Germany should have demolished all it's highways after world war 2. The mass relays are tools. Tools REQUIRED to rebuild the galaxy, without them the galaxy DIES. Period.

Modifié par The Angry One, 31 mars 2012 - 06:43 .

[Dava Flava]

Zan_Vaelius wrote...

*skims through his Literary Theory notes*
Regarding the "getting it" part which annoys people.
In the Reader's-approach side of interpreting literature in the Literary Theory: The Meaning is created by every individual reader of the story -> Meaning that every user is right about him gets it his own way.

Yes, man!  I studied semiotics, too, and I totally agree that each of us form our own meanings.  I wouldn't say everyone is "right," however, because misinterpretations are certainly possible.  The stargazer finale even speaks to that in some respect.

[The Angry One]

Ravenmyste wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

why dont you make a thread on it and not hijack ops thread?

Stop evading my points. OP and others here state the ending is solid and stands up on his own.
Whenever I ask for specific details as to your reasoning you don't respond.

If you "get it" and we don't it should be easy to explain in a logical uncounterable fashion, no?

you question would open another attack  since you would just ignore it and continue you trolling on the ones that understood it.

If the logic is sound, why would I counter it? Stop making excuses.

[Tazzmission]

Caz Tirin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

I see a lot of anti-enders asking the pro-enders "What did you like and what did you 'get' about the ending?" And I've yet to see a single answer to that question. I wonder why we, the anti-enders, think you're trolling?

or maybe you know the anti enders just dont like what the pro enders have to say because no matter what is said we are told we are wrong


thats a fact and you know it

i have given multiple explinations myself and you know what? same crap everyday by the vocal crowd


they can insult people so much before people get tired of it 

But you haven't said anything except to repeat what is in this quoted post here.  You're also coming across very arrogant.  When people are asking, repeatedly, for what it is you like and "get", instead of saying "you wouldn't understand" like some hipster, perhaps you should try to explain it.

stop reread what you just said

why would op explain it to someone like you if you call him a hipster huh?

comments like drone and  hey he must be bioware payroll isnt a way to get people to answer you

the more you insult people the more there gona make threads like this and not give an explination and frankly i dont blame them

if this was any other ** internet ** forum id be talking to you in a differnet way because trust me no policey exist and i have alot of things to say regarding the extreme fans

[theoldmanfromscene24]

What surprises me is how well they could end the krogan dilemma and the quarian-geth war, and yet misstep on the finale.

[Velocithon]

Lol ending was not awesome. You think they are because you don't care about the game.

Anyone who cares about the game knows the ending is terrible.

-Plot holes
-No choices
-Previous choices don't matter.
-Result of previous choices are not shown (Save Geth, Rachni, but neither show up for the fight)
-LI doesn't matter; no special scene with them (aside from obligatory "sex" scene)
-Random unexplained God child in last 10 minutes.
-Half the dialogue the Reapers said in previous games makes no sense if they were actually created and controlled by God child.

The list just goes on...and on...

[Gemini1179]

Evil Minion wrote...

*sigh*

It's a matter of taste. If I liked Shakespeare and you didn't, would you want me to "prove" that I liked it and to provide evidence that it was "good?"

Any english buff can show you why Shakespeare is brilliant and well loved even if you don't like it. I didn't like a lot of Shakespeare in school but gosh darnit, I respected the man. His writing really was brilliant.