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[DJBare]

Tazzmission wrote...

why is every possitive thing now labeled trolling?

Well, the OP could be genuine, but his/her post does look contrived, it specifically points out things that are a heated debate on this forum.

[Jjacobclark]

im jelly of your happiness

[nwj94]

Its nice to know that you like the ending and I'm not going to try and dissuade you.

However, if your wondering why the community is upset I advise you to watch

This video is the best summary of why we are upset.

Modifié par nwj94, 31 mars 2012 - 06:54 .

[Tazzmission]

Quietness wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Quietness wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

I see a lot of anti-enders asking the pro-enders "What did you like and what did you 'get' about the ending?" And I've yet to see a single answer to that question. I wonder why we, the anti-enders, think you're trolling?

or maybe you know the anti enders just dont like what the pro enders have to say because no matter what is said we are told we are wrong


thats a fact and you know it

i have given multiple explinations myself and you know what? same crap everyday by the vocal crowd


they can insult people so much before people get tired of it 

But you haven't said anything except to repeat what is in this quoted post here.  You're also coming across very arrogant.  When people are asking, repeatedly, for what it is you like and "get", instead of saying "you wouldn't understand" like some hipster, perhaps you should try to explain it.

stop reread what you just said

why would op explain it to someone like you if you call him a hipster huh?

comments like drone and  hey he must be bioware payroll isnt a way to get people to answer you

the more you insult people the more there gona make threads like this and not give an explination and frankly i dont blame them

if this was any other ** internet ** forum id be talking to you in a differnet way because trust me no policey exist and i have alot of things to say regarding the extreme fans

Im sorry all i see is you trying to turn the request into something different, care to explain to normandy scene? Or are you just going to try and turn this around again. Im actually very interested now.

like i said im sick of having to repeat myself.

if you really want to see my theories on it go through my old posts

Honestly the only time ive seen you post is when you are simply stating we don't get it. I'd like to see what your perspective is as you claim to get it. You are not being asked for the whole ending just 1 scene.

then you didnt see all my threads.

i made one lastnight titled me3 ending hinted in me1 and i gave some ideas on it

[Gruzmog]

Tazzmission wrote...

Quietness wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

I see a lot of anti-enders asking the pro-enders "What did you like and what did you 'get' about the ending?" And I've yet to see a single answer to that question. I wonder why we, the anti-enders, think you're trolling?

or maybe you know the anti enders just dont like what the pro enders have to say because no matter what is said we are told we are wrong


thats a fact and you know it

i have given multiple explinations myself and you know what? same crap everyday by the vocal crowd


they can insult people so much before people get tired of it 

But you haven't said anything except to repeat what is in this quoted post here.  You're also coming across very arrogant.  When people are asking, repeatedly, for what it is you like and "get", instead of saying "you wouldn't understand" like some hipster, perhaps you should try to explain it.

stop reread what you just said

why would op explain it to someone like you if you call him a hipster huh?

comments like drone and  hey he must be bioware payroll isnt a way to get people to answer you

the more you insult people the more there gona make threads like this and not give an explination and frankly i dont blame them

if this was any other ** internet ** forum id be talking to you in a differnet way because trust me no policey exist and i have alot of things to say regarding the extreme fans

Im sorry all i see is you trying to turn the request into something different, care to explain to normandy scene? Or are you just going to try and turn this around again. Im actually very interested now.

like i said im sick of having to repeat myself.

if you really want to see my theories on it go through my old posts

Way to ingore comments,  in any case, if you are so sick it of, why bother posting at all? Ofcourse it is ÿou're right if you want too, but you can't blame people for mistaking you for a troll if you only post stuff in this thread without arguments or reasons. Saying whe should search you;re other topics is kinda moot.

that you have posted usefull things in the post does not make you appear less of ass in this topic. Not saying you are, but that is how you are coming across right now.

[Dridengx]

Tazzmission wrote...

Yearlongjester wrote...

Someone link that "Not sure if trolling" meme

why is every possitive thing now labeled trolling?

do you even know what that means? because people sure do throw that word around alot

I know what you mean. It's the same with noob, scrub, emo, hipster, overrated, and other words that people use a lot in the wrong context. I personally find it embaressing but others don't seem to care.

[Iconoclaste]

The Angry One wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

theoldmanfromscene24 wrote...

What surprises me is how well they could end the krogan dilemma and the quarian-geth war, and yet misstep on the finale.

So, you just don't "get it".

Get what? Stop claiming we don't "get it" while never defining what "it" is.
That is the very definition of a hipster.

Exactly. Just illustrating the point, I'm with you. If I write this so bluntly, it gets its true meaning. Those who pretend to "like the endings" and conveniently skip the huge amount of justification of the opposite opinion are trying to be subtle.

[The Angry One]

Evil Minion wrote...

The ending was not "objectively bad."

There are no "facts" when interpretting art.

Art is subjective. Your opinions are just that: opinions. You may think your opinions are facts because you feel strongly about them, but it still doesn't make them facts.

If there's anything you don't "get," it's apparently the difference between "subjective" and "objective" thought.

No. It's bad. It violates fundamental rules of literature, including introducing a new character with new exposition in the final segment of the story. It is bad.
Do not play the art card, art is objectively bad or good. Scribbling on a piece of paper and calling it "art" is the defence of hipstersand artistes.

[The Angry One]

Tazzmission wrote...

then you didnt see all my threads.

i made one lastnight titled me3 ending hinted in me1 and i gave some ideas on it

The Klencory thing is a ridiculous stretch that hints at nothing, it requires 200 times the leaps of faith that the IT required, it is nothing and people like you always get upset when we point out it's nothing.

[Quietness]

Here i'll do this quick to make my point.

Normand Scene, Why it Fails:

We have to look to deleted scene/scripts which we shouldnt to attempt to explain why 2 squad mates are magically aboard. Once you have to look beyond the material for a rational explanation the material itself fails.

Joker has proven in the past that he is more willing to face being court-martialed for treason, a crime punishable by death, than to abandon Shepard and Her/His ideals.

The radio was stating for regroup of all forces, implied that this is ground stating that whoever ran down was dead. If for sake of argument you include Sword than regroup does not = get the f*** out of dodge.

These basic reasons are why the normandy scene fails. There is more but this is ample.

[Gruzmog]

This guy has the right idea, I am outta here, gonna recomment this for a lock. pointless topic at this point.

Bone3ater wrote...

And this is why there's a difference between opinion and fact.

You can't argue with opinion or taste. You can argue about plotholes, and we certaintly should argue about them.

*getting out of this thread as fast as I can*

[DiE231]

Nice job, OP!


However, we're still a few hours away from april 1st.

[METALPUNKS]

It just shows how pathetic people are by accusing someone of trolling because they don't agree with it. Those same people don't deserve a good ending for that reason. You mean to us and can hash it out but you can't take it when we give it to you.

[The Angry One]

Iconoclaste wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

theoldmanfromscene24 wrote...

What surprises me is how well they could end the krogan dilemma and the quarian-geth war, and yet misstep on the finale.

So, you just don't "get it".

Get what? Stop claiming we don't "get it" while never defining what "it" is.
That is the very definition of a hipster.

Exactly. Just illustrating the point, I'm with you. If I write this so bluntly, it gets its true meaning. Those who pretend to "like the endings" and conveniently skip the huge amount of justification of the opposite opinion are trying to be subtle.

Right, sarcasm is hard to tell. But yeah, it's tiresome. They prop themselves up and pretend they're intellectuals by "getting" something the rest of the hoi polloi don't see.

[Iconoclaste]

I think there is an "artistic" way to kill people that actually make it a "good thing". That's my opinion, but don't ask me to justify it because I have no obligation to do so.

Hahaha.

[Bigdoser]

All i want to know is WHY some people like the ending and how did they understand it.

[Jere85]

Thanks for your feedback! What did you like most about the game?

Was it the starchild ruining all sense of replayability?
Yeah, must have been the starchild undoing everything we ever stood for.

Im sorry, i just have a hard time staying serious when i see an OP like this.
In truth though, im happy you enjoyed the game, its better then how we are feeling, im happy you are not a part of it, i dont wish these thoughts and feelings upon anyone.

[Tazzmission]

Gruzmog wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Quietness wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

I see a lot of anti-enders asking the pro-enders "What did you like and what did you 'get' about the ending?" And I've yet to see a single answer to that question. I wonder why we, the anti-enders, think you're trolling?

or maybe you know the anti enders just dont like what the pro enders have to say because no matter what is said we are told we are wrong


thats a fact and you know it

i have given multiple explinations myself and you know what? same crap everyday by the vocal crowd


they can insult people so much before people get tired of it 

But you haven't said anything except to repeat what is in this quoted post here.  You're also coming across very arrogant.  When people are asking, repeatedly, for what it is you like and "get", instead of saying "you wouldn't understand" like some hipster, perhaps you should try to explain it.

stop reread what you just said

why would op explain it to someone like you if you call him a hipster huh?

comments like drone and  hey he must be bioware payroll isnt a way to get people to answer you

the more you insult people the more there gona make threads like this and not give an explination and frankly i dont blame them

if this was any other ** internet ** forum id be talking to you in a differnet way because trust me no policey exist and i have alot of things to say regarding the extreme fans

Im sorry all i see is you trying to turn the request into something different, care to explain to normandy scene? Or are you just going to try and turn this around again. Im actually very interested now.

like i said im sick of having to repeat myself.

if you really want to see my theories on it go through my old posts

Way to ingore comments,  in any case, if you are so sick it of, why bother posting at all? Ofcourse it is ÿou're right if you want too, but you can't blame people for mistaking you for a troll if you only post stuff in this thread without arguments or reasons. Saying whe should search you;re other topics is kinda moot.

that you have posted usefull things in the post does not make you appear less of ass in this topic. Not saying you are, but that is how you are coming across right now.

i post because im a fan. secondly im not going to allow a group to force me to leave and 3rd. my attitude is if you dont like what i have to say then dont ask me my opinion or thoughts or theories

thats not hard to do but when people just start throwing oh tazz is on biowares payroll or im a drone yea im gona comment on it

they dont like it tough then they should know in the long run not to try and paint this image on someone they dont even know

[Apfelweinbrauer]

Evil Minion wrote...


If you don't want people making fun of you and insulting your intelligence for not liking the ending, maybe you shouldn't insult people who liked the endings.

That's so chimpanzee-critiquish it almost mind-baffling, go on and keep up the good work!

[Iconoclaste]

They will not argue.

[Zan_Vaelius]

Perhaps we should simply agree to disagree on the matter?

[The Angry One]

METALPUNKS wrote...

It just shows how pathetic people are by accusing someone of trolling because they don't agree with it. Those same people don't deserve a good ending for that reason. You mean to us and can hash it out but you can't take it when we give it to you.

Interesting. Nobody's been "mean" here. We have asked for explanations and justifications with more substance than "you don't get it" and "it's over your head" and continually been accused of being unreasonable merely because we want you to make a case for the quality of the endings.

You yourself have been increasingly rude as time has gone by, and continually ignored any challenge to the few assertions you have made. Reflect upon your own attitude before criticising ours.

[Caz Tirin]

Ravenmyste wrote...

Caz Tirin wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Dava Flava wrote...

I'm sorry, but earlier when I said "others didn't get it like I did," all I meant was others didn't see it the same way I did. I did not mean to imply that others could not understand the ending or were incapable of getting it; I was just indicating the difference of interpretations.

And, I'm not trying to convince people to like the ending, either, so I'm not about to provide a dissertation detailing how the ending is more than adequate. I just wanted to express that I enjoyed it the way it was. The Bioware team probably feels pretty bad about disappointing their fans and I wanted to give them some positive feedback.

bioware has positive feedback because you and i and others have given it to them

aye and unfortunately the haters are trying to drag us down with are saying that thinking that we're understood it that some how comes out to translate that we are trolling, there was 3 choices one form each prospective tim's control, and Anderson's point of view to destroy the reapers, but it went further then just destroying all the reapers it would destroy all AI and synthetics as well and also destroy all the relays that caused this problem in the first place.

No one is "trying to drag you down".  Stop pretending to be a victim and just answer the question.  Or just keep evading the questions and troll on.


But at least admit you're trolling if you won't (or can't) explain why you like the ending and what you "get" about it.

i did answer you question and yet you think i haven't so, yes you are
dragging people down,  with trying to get more in depth  explanation   that
we understood what was being  told and the choices we made would have
significance impact on the universe, so i fail to see how that makes us the trollers that understood the choices.. but i do agree they need to clarify what happens to the rest of the fleets and what happens to that are fleets stranded do they start warring with each other cause another galactic war with each races?

and i understand quite well what the repercussions of the choices  and what they could  mean to me but that would only to me and not you view

so yes you are trolling sorry but you just failed

It's cute that you try to turn the trolling card around while still not explaining anything nor answering the simple question "What did you 'get' about the ending?"  You haven't explained anything beyond what everyone was easily able to comprehend.

Destroy = All synthetics die
Control = Controll all synthetics
Synthesis = Create hybrids

So if you're saying that is your answer to the question of what you "get", then you're not understanding the question.  And under that unlikely possibility, you wouldn't be trolling the same way you can't expect a child to understand the nature of making babies.

[Hot_Rod]

Dava Flava wrote...

Cheers, Bioware!

You've been getting a lot of horrible feedback about the ME3 ending, and I just wanted to say thank you for crafting an amazing conclusion to such a sweeping narrative.  I'm not even being sarcastic or anything.  I've finished the game three times now, and I have to say I was very satisfied with how the entire series played out, including the ending and, especially, the stargazer finale.  I don't even buy into that "indoctrination theory" stuff, either; I think the ending stands tall on its own.  You should be proud of crafting some of the best material in recent Canadian literature (because that's what it is).

Anyways, I just thought you'd like to hear that not everyone missed the point of your conclusion to Shepard's story.  I'm excited to see you're eager to please the disappointed fans, and I, too, can't wait to see whatever alternative you develop.

Keep up the good work!

Perhaps you would care to elaborate about what you 'got' that made the ending good for you?  I could sure use some insight that makes coherent sense of the AB or C but only B was acceptable to me ending.  The B being the only option that does not involve Genocide!)

 Empty praise of something so many people dislike is why your accused of trolling, support your argument 'cause your lookin pretty green otherwise...

HR

[Quietness]

Iconoclaste wrote...

I think there is an "artistic" way to kill people that actually make it a "good thing". That's my opinion, but don't ask me to justify it because I have no obligation to do so.

Hahaha.

Nah thats cool its your opinon, while i may disagree you are entitled to it. Its when we are told opion = fact or i get it you dont is when backing up is required.