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You just got mine Visii, hope it came up ok for you :) And thank you so much!

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Only ME2?!

I'm disappointed at the lack of Ashley dialogue and actual interaction dialogue after you get her back on the ship.

Also, whatever happened to Shiala? In ME2 she's all "maybe some time when I'm not w/e and you're not doing w/e it is you do" ... I was hoping for her to be in ME3.

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Sgt Reed 24 wrote...

Only ME2?!

I'm disappointed at the lack of Ashley dialogue and actual interaction dialogue after you get her back on the ship.

Also, whatever happened to Shiala ... in ME2 she's all "maybe some time when I'm not w/e and you're not doing w/e it is you do" ... I was hoping for her to be in ME3.


Aww. I suppose not ONLY ME2 -mancers. If you want to make yourself heard about the others, go right ahead, send me a PM!

Yes, I was a little sad about Shiala, also.

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I honestly don't understand the complaints about Miranda and Jack. Yes, they didn't get much content, and that sucks. Admittedly, I don't care as much as you guys do, because Liara got plenty of content. However, the difference between this complaint and the complaint about the ending is that the ending is actually a big deal. It's the ending to the entire trilogy. If we got a good ending that was decently happy, then there would be no problem with just imagining what happened after the ending between Shepard and Miranda or Shepard and Jack.

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Malevolence65 wrote...

I honestly don't understand the complaints about Miranda and Jack. Yes, they didn't get much content, and that sucks. Admittedly, I don't care as much as you guys do, because Liara got plenty of content. However, the difference between this complaint and the complaint about the ending is that the ending is actually a big deal. It's the ending to the entire trilogy. If we got a good ending that was decently happy, then there would be no problem with just imagining what happened after the ending between Shepard and Miranda or Shepard and Jack.


Would you have said the same thing if you didn't get any time with Liara in ME3? Could you seriously say that?

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istle wrote...
Would you have said the same thing if you didn't get any time with Liara in ME3? Could you seriously say that?

I would be disappointed, but I don't think I would mind it as much as you guys do.

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Malevolence65 wrote...

istle wrote...
Would you have said the same thing if you didn't get any time with Liara in ME3? Could you seriously say that?

I would be disappointed, but I don't think I would mind it as much as you guys do.


Well I was considerably more disappointed with Jack barely being in ME3 than the whole ending debacle. I had my expectations low since I knew Jack wasn't going to be Squadmember in ME3 but... it's amazing how disappointed you can get with relatively low expectations of something you feel strongly about.

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istle wrote...

Well, I'm a bit disappointed that Jack doesn't have more content too. I like her quite a bit in ME3. Didn't care for her at all in ME2, though.

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Malevolence65 wrote...
However, the difference between this complaint and the complaint about the ending is that the ending is actually a big deal.


And what if I don't care about ending but care about Jack? ;] And well, you can use your imagination to imagine perfect ending too.

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Malevolence65 wrote...

I honestly don't understand the complaints about Miranda and Jack. Yes, they didn't get much content, and that sucks. Admittedly, I don't care as much as you guys do, because Liara got plenty of content. However, the difference between this complaint and the complaint about the ending is that the ending is actually a big deal. It's the ending to the entire trilogy. If we got a good ending that was decently happy, then there would be no problem with just imagining what happened after the ending between Shepard and Miranda or Shepard and Jack.


There are two sides to the Mass Effect Trilogy: the story and the characters.

There are PLENTY of people fighting to make themselves heard about the endings.

Not so with the characters such as the ME2 LI's.

LI's are something specific and special to Bioware's work. You literally cannot get something remotely like it in any other current game (unless you count Harvest Moon). When Bioware doesn't do a good a job as they could have, knowing they are capable, as consumers, we have the right to complain about it. 

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I'd like Jack to have more content too. I really loved the way that they kept her true to her character while giving her some development (new looks, becoming a teacher, etc)

It's a shame she was only in one mission.

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Visii wrote...

Didn't get enough of Miranda or Jack? Hated what happened to Thane or Jacob? Disappointed about Samara's one, indirect mention of the attempted ME2 romance?

Well please post to this thread or PM me! There's a few people going PAX, and we're going to put the things we liked and the things we disliked on paper and give it to them there!

Passionate but polite, people, lets show some love for the ME2 LI's! This is the last game in the series, this wasn't the send off any of us were hoping for.


It will be about Thane
-I want to have chance to tell him, that Im in hospital becouse of him, not Kaidan. I don't want to have my only conversation with my LI dominated by VS
-more conversations with Thane would be great
-I would be happy, if my Shep could tell Kaidan that she love Thane, not to be forced to be ashamed or quilty becouse she moved on
-more emotions from Shepard after Thane was wounded..Shepard behaviour in this scene was terrible
-option to save Thane ( while all others LIs have it)
-change this terrible "intimate" scene. Im not kind of person who like to make love in a front of dozen others ppl and in full clothes on.

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RGC_Ines wrote...

Visii wrote...

Didn't get enough of Miranda or Jack? Hated what happened to Thane or Jacob? Disappointed about Samara's one, indirect mention of the attempted ME2 romance?

Well please post to this thread or PM me! There's a few people going PAX, and we're going to put the things we liked and the things we disliked on paper and give it to them there!

Passionate but polite, people, lets show some love for the ME2 LI's! This is the last game in the series, this wasn't the send off any of us were hoping for.


It will be about Thane
-I want to have chance to tell him, that Im in hospital becouse of him, not Kaidan. I don't want to have my only conversation with my LI dominated by VS
-more conversations with Thane would be great
-I would be happy, if my Shep could tell Kaidan that she love Thane, not to be forced to be ashamed or quilty becouse she moved on
-more emotions from Shepard after Thane was wounded..Shepard behaviour in this scene was terrible
-option to save Thane ( while all others LIs have it)
-change this terrible "intimate" scene. Im not kind of person who like to make love in a front of dozen others ppl and in full clothes on.


Nice. Anything further to add? Should we attribute it to your BSN user name?

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istle wrote...

Malevolence65 wrote...

istle wrote...
Would you have said the same thing if you didn't get any time with Liara in ME3? Could you seriously say that?

I would be disappointed, but I don't think I would mind it as much as you guys do.


Well I was considerably more disappointed with Jack barely being in ME3 than the whole ending debacle. I had my expectations low since I knew Jack wasn't going to be Squadmember in ME3 but... it's amazing how disappointed you can get with relatively low expectations of something you feel strongly about.


Had to bold you there......I feel the same way as you, but for me it was Thane.  And others might choose, Miri, or Jacob (yes, he deserved much better).  They all should have had more, and if our disappointment in a game comes from a different reason than those that hate the endings, that doesn't mean we are wrong, or that your disappointment is invalid.  Live and let live, baby!!!Image IPB

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Visii wrote...

Should we attribute it to your BSN user name?

As You wish...actually I send a few days ago letter do Devs about Thane, but Im affraid they just ignored it.Image IPB

I will add only one..Devs should also fix Jacob "romance". While I hadn't patience to talk to poor Jacob in ME2 ( dislike my Shep behaviour when she was talking to him) I feel , that decision about Jacob's cheating in ME3 is unfair and out of his character. 

BTW thanks for this nice idea Visii

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Jestina wrote...

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Spectre authority, all charges against Miranda Lawson are dropped.


Yeah, that's really stretching it there. There's already enough fan service garbage in the story as it is.


We get it. You don't like Miranda. You don't see me spouting off on how much Liara being the Shadow Broker is fanservice, do you?

On topic... Definitely improve Miranda's role. Her Cerberus connection feels incidental at best, and her association to Sanctuary feels like loyalty mission 2.0.

Her romance is decent enough for what's there, but more should be there. The romance is 1-2 lines added on top of the stock dialogue, and the "culmination" is a quick fade-to-black following a little flirt.

Following Sanctuary, she should have come aboard the Normandy for the raid on Cerberus HQ. She was TIM's 2IC, and it would be the IDEAL time for Cerberus closure. Plus, since she says herself she's getting her injuries treated after Sandctuary, she can hang out in the medbay and open up some more conversation, coupled with some cuddle time, assuming romance.

Those are just a few ideas off the top of my head.

edit: Oh, and assuming romance, there needs to be a time for Miranda and Shepard to confess feelings for each other. They do this at Sanctuary... but only if Miranda dies. The time aboard in the medbay would be opportune for this.

Modifié par o Ventus, 01 avril 2012 - 09:37 .


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First post updated with the deadline.

Thursday, 9:00 PM, (EST). We gotta give our comrades time enough to print these letters out!

Modifié par Visii, 01 avril 2012 - 11:26 .


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MORE TALI ROMANCE DIALOGUE AND SCENES. and make it so if you romanced her you see her face on rannoch( i will never understand why they didnt in the first place they made a beautiful emotional scene for it where she already takes her mask off and they dont have her look back and smile at shepard WHY? her reveal couldnt have had a more perfect set up. and by the way i like the bedside pic and the fact that they made her look so close to human i just think you should also see it in a cutscene

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o Ventus wrote...
We get it. You don't like Miranda. You don't see me spouting off on how much Liara being the Shadow Broker is fanservice, do you?


Liara was a main plot character since ME1. Not even comparable to a temporary character like Miranda.

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Have you gotten a good amount of PM responses from Jack fans? I know some I could contact.

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Jestina wrote...

o Ventus wrote...
We get it. You don't like Miranda. You don't see me spouting off on how much Liara being the Shadow Broker is fanservice, do you?


Liara was a main plot character since ME1. Not even comparable to a temporary character like Miranda.


ME2 sez hi.

An no, LotSB wasn't a part of ME2's main plot.

And yes, Liara becoming SB is major pandering. She was already an important character, but then they shoot her up to someone who's nearly as important as Shepard, for no reason.

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Needs more bacon.

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Need more Tali. Always need more Tali.


This.

She's at the end of the game for crying out loud! Their relationship is one of the most unique, taboo, and conflict ripe of all the groups. Their relationship seemed like they were going to cover the challenges of them being together physical, social (species and galaxy wise), political, culturally, and how they would over come all of it. It seemed like this relationship wanted to be more but then got rushed an therefore wasn't. I thought it would mirror the ups and downs, both taking turns in support roles of one another, have more on and off ship time and convos, and a special tali break date like Garrus x fshep had but it didn't get that complete so in the words of Tali, " I want more time!"

Also all other ME2 romances Thane, Jack, ect should get their own unique times too meet them on the citadel more, actually use the holovid several times to speak to them, have the LI invite them for a breakdate that's not copy/paste that is very unique to that character just because they can't be crew doesn't mean the players forgot they loved them.

Oh and for the record Garrux x fshep 9/10 loved them well done. This one can't get anymore perfect!

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For crying out loud, I'm so sick of seeing "Moar Tali" I mean come on. Sure she's at the end of the game but still she's a squad mate. I mean she's has a actually romance scene, a little bit of flirting on the geth dreadnought a lot of dialogue and you get all that stuff on Rannoch with making her home and everything. Yet while Jacob and Thane got totally screwed and Miranda and jack didn't get nearly as much as everyone else on the Normandy, or even of the ME2 squad... Yet your saying more Tali....

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kookman wrote...

MORE TALI ROMANCE DIALOGUE AND SCENES. and make it so if you romanced her you see her face on rannoch( i will never understand why they didnt in the first place they made a beautiful emotional scene for it where she already takes her mask off and they dont have her look back and smile at shepard WHY? her reveal couldnt have had a more perfect set up. and by the way i like the bedside pic and the fact that they made her look so close to human i just think you should also see it in a cutscene


I agree here too the set up was perfect. I can see why they didn't for friend fshep but why not her LI mshep come on? Just tag the moment if player imports Tali as LI you get her face shown to you on Rannoch and she'll take off her helmet in bed with you pre-Cerberus base raid.