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Just throwing out a thought here, it may be easier and more interactive if we encourage people to make their own bracelets. It would be more creative, personal, and visually more interesting to look at. So when someone is looking at these pics, they are not getting the same thing over and over again.

I can design different size bracelet patterns for those who may not be all that artistic. They can design or write whatever they like and cut it out or use it as a pattern to cut their bracelet out of something else.

People can sendme their photos of them wearing the bracelet and I can place into a digital photo album.. along with a small personal message from each person.


it would be cool to have something similar on each bracelet too i think, a way to tie us all together (besides our LI theme) like a bead or something? maybe?


i actually like that idea. to tie of us all together. i'm just throwing out a quick thought, but it can be something as simple as having to apply a red heart. i have to sit back and brain storm on this.


made this today..i think it's too big to put on a bracelet but it might make a nice necklace or something. I'm going to make a mold of it (in a few weeks) and cast it in plastic or something then paint it Thane colors.. for my love of Thane <3
i103.photobucket.com/albums/m126/JediJentau/heart/thaneheart.jpg   (hope that link works 1st time posting stuff like that) also need to redo the texture on it so it's well..not so crazy but you get the idea


Whoa, your heart is looking pretty awesome. I like how ya placed texture into it. Please send me a link when you are done, I would love to see it.

I keep getting pm'd for what I said earlier, all day. It's crazy. I went to start it last night, but my darn computer crashed. I been running my mouth now for a good month, so it's time I did something. Although I think I may have to go under a different username so people take me more seriously. LOL.

I will start this project and hopefully I will get photos in. *crosses fingers*


I missed the chance to write a letter but I like to make a wrist band. I liked what you told me earlier... that your brother was making one for Tali and drew Space Robots on it. HAHA


LOL I made him redo it. I can't use that as an example. "Fix Tali's face" and then the band has transformers on it. The both of us are a couple of goofballs but the rest of the universe is not going to understand it. haha. lol.

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I just have to face the fact that I'm gonna have to pay someone to make the bracelet and/or necklace for me. That's just the sad truth of the matter. Ah, well. It can be my big gift to myself.

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I just have to face the fact that I'm gonna have to pay someone to make the bracelet and/or necklace for me. That's just the sad truth of the matter. Ah, well. It can be my big gift to myself.


no no, the way I am trying to set this thing up, you don't have to be an artist. it can be as simple as wrapping a green string around your wrist. (or ya can draw 'em stick figures as we were discussing earlier. lol) alright... time for me to get back to writing this thing up.

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Squeegee83 wrote...

Yermogi wrote...

I just have to face the fact that I'm gonna have to pay someone to make the bracelet and/or necklace for me. That's just the sad truth of the matter. Ah, well. It can be my big gift to myself.


no no, the way I am trying to set this thing up, you don't have to be an artist. it can be as simple as wrapping a green string around your wrist. (or ya can draw 'em stick figures as we were discussing earlier. lol) alright... time for me to get back to writing this thing up.

But Thane deserves so much MORE! I can't be satisfied with just giving him a string. XP

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Is it just me or is it awkfully quiet in here today?
The last Aryss/Nick report is still MIA ?!

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imp187 wrote...

Is it just me or is it awkfully quiet in here today?
The last Aryss/Nick report is still MIA ?!


Yes, well... we're still trying to determine our next move. Project 2 will be called The Tribute. I think we got caught up in discussing it. Hang around, bump the thread if falls too far down, for details.

I'll ask 'em about that Last Day of PAX report.

Also, I think people are so engrossed with The Book that they haven't any time to post here ^.^.

Keep up the twitter and facebook talk now that there's time for certain people to have seen it.

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Visii wrote...

imp187 wrote...

Is it just me or is it awkfully quiet in here today?
The last Aryss/Nick report is still MIA ?!


Yes, well... we're still trying to determine our next move. Project 2 will be called The Tribute. I think we got caught up in discussing it. Hang around, bump the thread if falls too far down, for details.

I'll ask 'em about that Last Day of PAX report.

Also, I think people are so engrossed with The Book that they haven't any time to post here ^.^.

Keep up the twitter and facebook talk now that there's time for certain people to have seen it.


What's project 2 about?

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JECW wrote...

Visii wrote...

imp187 wrote...

Is it just me or is it awkfully quiet in here today?
The last Aryss/Nick report is still MIA ?!


Yes, well... we're still trying to determine our next move. Project 2 will be called The Tribute. I think we got caught up in discussing it. Hang around, bump the thread if falls too far down, for details.

I'll ask 'em about that Last Day of PAX report.

Also, I think people are so engrossed with The Book that they haven't any time to post here ^.^.

Keep up the twitter and facebook talk now that there's time for certain people to have seen it.


What's project 2 about?


Still hammering out the details, trying to get the focus right. 'course all the LI's are still the focus but we want it to be a bit different than The Book.

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Visii wrote...

JECW wrote...

Visii wrote...

imp187 wrote...

Is it just me or is it awkfully quiet in here today?
The last Aryss/Nick report is still MIA ?!


Yes, well... we're still trying to determine our next move. Project 2 will be called The Tribute. I think we got caught up in discussing it. Hang around, bump the thread if falls too far down, for details.

I'll ask 'em about that Last Day of PAX report.

Also, I think people are so engrossed with The Book that they haven't any time to post here ^.^.

Keep up the twitter and facebook talk now that there's time for certain people to have seen it.


What's project 2 about?


Still hammering out the details, trying to get the focus right. 'course all the LI's are still the focus but we want it to be a bit different than The Book.


Sounds very interesting.
Did you come up with any ideas yet?

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how did the talk to weekes go? very curious to know about the "Interesting information gleaned" :P

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Hello!

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Hello!


Oh no! You bought ME3!

*weeps for you*


Finally!

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cg8900 wrote...

how did the talk to weekes go? very curious to know about the "Interesting information gleaned" :P


^Seconded!

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The book is amazing

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Visii wrote...

JECW wrote...

Visii wrote...

imp187 wrote...

Is it just me or is it awkfully quiet in here today?
The last Aryss/Nick report is still MIA ?!


Yes, well... we're still trying to determine our next move. Project 2 will be called The Tribute. I think we got caught up in discussing it. Hang around, bump the thread if falls too far down, for details.

I'll ask 'em about that Last Day of PAX report.

Also, I think people are so engrossed with The Book that they haven't any time to post here ^.^.

Keep up the twitter and facebook talk now that there's time for certain people to have seen it.


What's project 2 about?


Still hammering out the details, trying to get the focus right. 'course all the LI's are still the focus but we want it to be a bit different than The Book.


Yay. I can't wait to hear about the next project.

The Book is amazing. I really enjoyed reading through it. Lots of great thoughts from everyone.

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Hello Friends,

                You want to know what went down on the last day of PAX East? Of course you do! Here
it is! After speaking with the Bioware staff, here are some tidbits that we have 'gleaned.' Please understand that some of this we may have misinterpreted. This is our take on what we heard. We may, because we are human, be mistaken.

                On Jacob: The disappointment of his plot development was mainly a result of a writer's intent being lost in translation. The way that this particular LI turned out was never meant to be offensive.  Please know, that this controversial development was never the writers intention.
                 On Liara's 'Embrace Eternity' Moment Before the last Battle: This was meant to be very open to fan interpretation. However, if you and Liara are just friends, it was not meant to be sexual. It was just suppose to be another touching moment of Asari nature. Something that would strengthen your bond, be it romantic or platonic, and represent a realization of the interconnectedness of the universe. Hence 'Embrace Eternity.'
                On the Final Flashback During the Three Endings: The reason why it flashed back to someone that was not necessarily your love interest was because the developers were forced to work within the constraints
of which characters might still be alive due to the massive amount of decisions present in the ME galaxy.
                On Vega: Sometimes, characters that are written develop a mind of their own. Vega is one of these characters. Though he may be very flirty, he developed into a strict military man that would not breach the chain of command. This is why he is not a romance option.
                On General Romance Options: We asked about why there were only five main romance options available in ME3. (Garrus, Tali, Ashley, Kaidan, and Liara)The response was that they felt that there were seven main romance options (including Traynor and Cortez,) which is more than there were in Mass Effect 2 where there were only six (Tali, Garrus, Thane, Miranda, Jack, and Jacob.)

                This is what we gathered. Again, we may be wrong on what we thought we heard on
everything except for the following.

                On this project: Over and over again, and from several different people, we were told that, for us to make a difference in future DLC, we need to continue speaking out in a unified voice. It will be easy to be drowned out by the movements that are campaigning for different endings. For us to succeed we must persevere and we must stand together.
 

                                                            <3   -Aryss Arlova & Nick

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...and bump because I had a horrible time figuring out formatting.

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Well, the lesson here is to NOT SHUT UP AND KEEP SCREAMING ABOUT WHAT WE WANT LIKE TODDLERS IN A CANDY STORE.

CAPS LOCK FOR EMPHASIS.

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Aryss, thank you so much for the summary! You and Nick and Visii have been amazing. I really appreciate all that you guys have done.

Their answer about Jacob seems kind of vague. What was their intent with him? In my opinion, he should have only hooked up with Brynn if he wasn't romanced. If romanced, he and Shepard should have had a happy reunion at the base. How could they think having him cheat on Shepard isn't offensive to the people who romanced him? I never did his romance but I still thought it was an awful thing to do to people who liked his romance and invested in it.

As for the flashbacks, it seems like they are making excuses. Technically, the VS could be dead, too. Example: I could kill Ash on Virmire and kill Kaidan during the citadel coup.Yet the VS appears in the flashback if you romance them, meaning the game knows they're alive. Thinking further, why does the character even need to be alive to appear? Why can't my Shepard remember the man she loves if he's dead? Something about their explanation just doesn't add up. D:

Was anything said about Thane?

Thanks again, Aryss. I really appreciate you taking the time to share this information with us!

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Aryss0410 wrote...

Hello Friends,

                You want to know what went down on the last day of PAX East? Of course you do! Here
it is! After speaking with the Bioware staff, here are some tidbits that we have 'gleaned.' Please understand that some of this we may have misinterpreted. This is our take on what we heard. We may, because we are human, be mistaken.

                On Jacob: The disappointment of his plot development was mainly a result of a writer's intent being lost in translation. The way that this particular LI turned out was never meant to be offensive.  Please know, that this controversial development was never the writers intention.
                 On Liara's 'Embrace Eternity' Moment Before the last Battle: This was meant to be very open to fan interpretation. However, if you and Liara are just friends, it was not meant to be sexual. It was just suppose to be another touching moment of Asari nature. Something that would strengthen your bond, be it romantic or platonic, and represent a realization of the interconnectedness of the universe. Hence 'Embrace Eternity.'
                On the Final Flashback During the Three Endings: The reason why it flashed back to someone that was not necessarily your love interest was because the developers were forced to work within the constraints
of which characters might still be alive due to the massive amount of decisions present in the ME galaxy.
                On Vega: Sometimes, characters that are written develop a mind of their own. Vega is one of these characters. Though he may be very flirty, he developed into a strict military man that would not breach the chain of command. This is why he is not a romance option.
                On General Romance Options: We asked about why there were only five main romance options available in ME3. (Garrus, Tali, Ashley, Kaidan, and Liara)The response was that they felt that there were seven main romance options (including Traynor and Cortez,) which is more than there were in Mass Effect 2 where there were only six (Tali, Garrus, Thane, Miranda, Jack, and Jacob.)

                This is what we gathered. Again, we may be wrong on what we thought we heard on
everything except for the following.

                On this project: Over and over again, and from several different people, we were told that, for us to make a difference in future DLC, we need to continue speaking out in a unified voice. It will be easy to be drowned out by the movements that are campaigning for different endings. For us to succeed we must persevere and we must stand together.
 

                                                            <3   -Aryss Arlova & Nick


Thank you so much Aryss, Nick, and Visii for everything you have done for this project. As for those answers...Hmm... Let's just say that I hope they will address our concerns and issues with the LI's relationships, epsecially with Jacob. Although I romanced Thane through my playthrough, the way they protrayed Jacob in ME3 was just terrible. As for Vega, *shakes fist* That's just making him a big tease! :pinched:

Actually, in ME2, you could also romance Kelly so I guess ME2 and ME3 both have seven relationships, although if you didn't romance Garrus in ME2, he is not available...

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Wow. Those excuses are lame as hell.

Really, Bioware? Really? You honestly didn't think people would be offended and angry over what happened with Jacob? Explain to me how this was supposed to make people feel. I don't understand how through logical reasoning, you decided this outcome was acceptable and would not be offensive. That's utterly ridiculous.

And adding brand new romances is supposed to justify the fact that you DIDN'T DEVELOP THE OLD ONES? Or tossed them aside like garbage? You should have focused on continuity and catering to already established fans. I don't understand the reasoning behind this, either. Did you honestly expect people would like this?

Flashback:
No, sorry. That excuse doesn't hold water with me. You could have easily done this through the use of already existing plot flags. Check: Current Romance.  Wow, that was really hard.  Don't give me that crap.

Vega:
OK, so... Vega is a better man than Kaidan, apparently? He was a subordinate, too. Since you ripped away TWO of FemSheps straight romances this would have helped even out the balance. Apparently, teasing us is more important to you. Trololololololol.

/facepalms so hard she knocks herself out

What I glean from this, is that you didn't care about what your existing fan base actually wanted. You decided to do what you thought would be artistic, grimdark and 'compelling'. Unfortunately, you failed on an epic level.

Bioware seemed to be overconfident that anything they did would be gold. They underestimated the power of nerd rage, apparently. If you decide to suddenly turn around and spit in the faces of your fans, they aren't gonna take it well. Especially people who had so much faith and trust in you.

I used to be one of those people.

/end rant

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Aislinn Trista wrote...

Flashback:
No, sorry. That excuse doesn't hold water with me. You could have easily done this through the use of already existing plot flags. Check: Current Romance.  Wow, that was really hard.  Don't give me that crap.
/end rant


Yeah, that excuse can't be taken seriously. There's no way this could have been a challenging technical issue.

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flemm wrote...

Aislinn Trista wrote...

Flashback:
No, sorry. That excuse doesn't hold water with me. You could have easily done this through the use of already existing plot flags. Check: Current Romance.  Wow, that was really hard.  Don't give me that crap.
/end rant


Yeah, that excuse can't be taken seriously. There's no way this could have been a challenging technical issue.

Vertigo_1 fixed it . . . lol

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Aryss0410 wrote...

                On Jacob: The disappointment of his plot development was mainly a result of a writer's intent being lost in translation. The way that this particular LI turned out was never meant to be offensive.  Please know, that this controversial development was never the writers intention.
             


This also smacks of 'we forgot Jacob was a romance', as well.  Lazy, just lazy.

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There is a good point here. It feels tempting for each fan group to go off and do their own thing. The only problem is that that may lead to splits and muddle the voice of what we all want. On the other hand, the other way brings more autonomy to each group. Decisions decisions....or fan groups can do both.
Idk, how the heck can we get these guys attention?

Perhaps  each group does their own thing but then each group will contribute to a larger more unison project?

Modifié par cbutz, 11 avril 2012 - 04:35 .