787 réponses à ce sujet

[thehomeworld]

Mason IIv wrote...

For crying out loud, I'm so sick of seeing "Moar Tali" I mean come on. Sure she's at the end of the game but still she's a squad mate. I mean she's has a actually romance scene, a little bit of flirting on the geth dreadnought a lot of dialogue and you get all that stuff on Rannoch with making her home and everything. Yet while Jacob and Thane got totally screwed and Miranda and jack didn't get nearly as much as everyone else on the Normandy, or even of the ME2 squad... Yet your saying more Tali....

BW isn't going to allow you to kill of Vega, ditch VS, and not bring along Eva's corpse in order to allow the players to pick up ME2 LI of their choice so yeah why not ask for more interaction time over the course of the game (or in Thane's case his short lifespan) and try to give the players something.
 
And yes compared to Garrus which I thought was how all ship crew LI would mimic but didn't they need to up them so yeah VS and Tali both need to be upped to be similar in the ups/downs, support changes, and moments both on and off ship wise asking for it because these ones have more access to the player doesn't make them evil or wrong. I romanced Thane and Samara but I can't expect BW to up their romance interactions with shep to Garrus x fshep levels why? Because they don't have the access to shep like Tali + others do. Be mad if you want but don't say Tali other other crew LIs can't air how they feel their relationships got rushed in the production line because they also did.

[o Ventus]

Tali and Garrus fans don't really get to complain. Both of their romances are squadmates and have a full-fledged romance scene. All of the ME2 exclusive romances were shafted, miserably.

[Mason IIv]

Did I say you should be able to kill off the VS, Vega or EDI. And I'm not mad. But it's like this, you've got quite a bit already with Tali's romance, but there are other LIs out there that barely got anything. But Tali is kind of in the average zone, VS and Garrus are in the good zone, while every ME2 squad mate is in the bad zone. So it's like you got it good already, but your complaining... while other people pretty much didn't get anything like with Jacob/Thane.

Edit. Thank you Ventus.

Modifié par Mason IIv, 02 avril 2012 - 01:55 .

[Ashira Shepard]

Just to add my two cents. It could be even worse.

That line of dialogue is the only difference if you tried to romance her. I just wanted my Shepard to go "what do you think I'm doing here, talking to you?"

[Mason IIv]

Good point Ashira. But this is what I mean, all ME2 squad got sidelined...

[Nightwriter]

Mason IIv wrote...

For crying out loud, I'm so sick of seeing "Moar Tali" I mean come on. Sure she's at the end of the game but still she's a squad mate. I mean she's has a actually romance scene, a little bit of flirting on the geth dreadnought a lot of dialogue and you get all that stuff on Rannoch with making her home and everything. Yet while Jacob and Thane got totally screwed and Miranda and jack didn't get nearly as much as everyone else on the Normandy, or even of the ME2 squad... Yet your saying more Tali....

I know some people who think that only Thane and Jacob were true victims in ME3. They consider Jack and Miranda to have been treated well enough that there is no great cause for complaint, simply because you get a few more brief scenes with them and they can still be in a relationship with you at the end of the game.

There is a victim hierarchy here, with the bottommost victims thinking they were screwed over enough that the people who were screwed over a bit less don't have as much reason to complain. It's why I recently overreacted when someone sighed that Ashley's romance didn't get quite the level of epicness that Liara's did. My LI got so much less than Ashley that I had a regrettable knee jerk reaction.

At lunch, you are given only one peanut. The person beside you gets two peanuts, and complains that this is no meal. You respond, "Hey, at least you got two peanuts!"

I think Tali and Garrus got at least a big garden salad and a couple of rolls, however.

Mmm food analogies.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 02 avril 2012 - 02:34 .

[kookie28]

Jestina wrote...

o Ventus wrote...
We get it. You don't like Miranda. You don't see me spouting off on how much Liara being the Shadow Broker is fanservice, do you?

Liara was a main plot character since ME1. Not even comparable to a temporary character like Miranda.

My ME2 T-shirt just waved at you.

[ADLegend21]

AshiraShepard wrote...

Just to add my two cents. It could be even worse.

That line of dialogue is the only difference if you tried to romance her. I just wanted my Shepard to go "what do you think I'm doing here, talking to you?"

yeah it is, m canon's didn't try for her and they didn't get that.

Guess it's up to headcanon to fulfill out Samara crushes....

[Mr.House]

I wouldn't mind more Liara content. She is a ME2 LI because of LOTSB.

[Mason IIv]

Mr. House... your joking right?

[Mr.House]

Mason IIv wrote...

Mr. House... your joking right?

What? We never got to hug Liara after Thessia and Liara seems to think her and Shepard are still friends even if you romanced her in ME, stayed loyal, romanced her in LOTSB and have lfirted with her everytime in ME3. It kinda ruins her date.

Modifié par Mr.House, 02 avril 2012 - 02:49 .

[Mason IIv]

This is a joke isn't it?

Modifié par Mason IIv, 02 avril 2012 - 02:53 .

[Ashira Shepard]

ADLegend21 wrote...
yeah it is, m canon's didn't try for her and they didn't get that.

Guess it's up to headcanon to fulfill out Samara crushes....

Luckily I can write.

And Nightwriter, I read that very last line in Homer's voice...

[BobZilla84]

Now come on guys let's keep it civil and remember why this thread exists and why we are here to hopefully get better treatment for the Mass Effect 2 Romance's.

I know the Mass Effect 2 Romances got shafted severly and in all honesty the Romances of Mass Effect 3 was bad anyway.

Male Romance Options                   Female Romance Options
Ashley Williams                                Kaiden Alenko
Kaiden Alenko                                   Liara T'Soni
Liara T'Soni                                       Thane Krios
Tali'Zorah vas Neema                       Garrus Vakarian
Miranda Lawson                                Jacob Taylor
Jack                                                    Kelly Chambers
Steve Cortez                                      Samantha Traynor
Kelly Chambers                                 Diana Allers
Diana Allers                                       Samara
Samara                                               

Now out of all the options we know that Bioware made it possable several options Miranda Lawson ,Thane Krios,Jack,Samara & Kelly Chambers these five can die if your not careful.

Now in my honest opinion we know Kaiden Alenko,Liara T'Soni,Kelly Chambers, & Diana Allers are Bi Sexual Samantha Traynor should have been BI as well.

Steve Cortez should have not been Romance Option in the First Place because in my opinion having both Kaiden and him is overkill Kaiden should have been enough and used the resources they used on Cortez on another Romance Option.

And don't even get started on Jacobs Romance and the Complete Character Assassination they pulled on him I agree Female Shepard should have been able to tear into both Jacob and Brynn maybe leave them to die something like that but no instead what do we get that trash pathetic.

Also why was neither Vega or Joker a Romance option for Female Shepard both where awesome characters but no instead they pulled a Aveline Vallen with Vega Flirts and nothing else and Joker they hooked him up with EDI pathetic nothing more can be said. 
 
Sorry for venting anyway I support More Content for all the Romances. 


  

Modifié par BobZilla 2k10, 02 avril 2012 - 03:52 .

[ADLegend21]

Mr.House wrote...

Mason IIv wrote...

Mr. House... your joking right?

What? We never got to hug Liara after Thessia and Liara seems to think her and Shepard are still friends even if you romanced her in ME, stayed loyal, romanced her in LOTSB and have lfirted with her everytime in ME3. It kinda ruins her date.

House, I love you, but no, just no. You know Liara is the writers favorite and a gameplay mechanic that allows you to get out of her romance for someone else in ME3 is NOTHING to complain about. Thane acts like you aren't even with him besides one awkward makeout session in Huerta Memorial, and Jacob CHEATS on you. Miranda sporadically appears and Jack has a little less than her. Garrus and Tali are the only "ME2" LI's that get romance scenes on the Normandy and that's because they're part of the original sqaud. Liara has the MOST content of any character and is on the Normandy from the start of the game you can go see her anytime even when you're off the ship on the Citadel. Liara does not need more content, hell she has her OWN DLC. the DLC is all about her. until everyone has their own DLC, Liara will always have more content than everyone else, along with being the only unkillable squadmate in the game.

[Crazyjeffy]

Visii wrote...

Crazyjeffy wrote...

Need more Tali. Always need more Tali.

Yes, but WHAT about Tali?

What disappointed you? What were you happy to see?

The Retake people are trying to make sure that concerns about Story side of ME3 are taken care of. This is for the other part of ME3, the characters we've all grown to care about over the course of this series.

Post-war stuff. House on rannoch, geth-quarian relations, she doesn't even mention reegar at all and he's dead. I was saddened by the fact that (once again) she comes in 2/3 of the way through the game, and just like Garrus her LI scenes pale in comparison to Liara/Kaidan/Ashley (especially Liara). And once you finish the rannoch arc, you only see her on the citadel once. After the chat with mr. turian guy, she vanishes. Need more Tali..

Modifié par Crazyjeffy, 02 avril 2012 - 04:19 .

[BobZilla84]

I think Bioware thought they were being clever with the Mass Effect 2 Romances I mean seriously Bioware destroyed Thanes & Jacobs intentally no other excuses the same goes for Miranda and Jack both while they are techically still options they really aren't compared to the Mass Effect 3 Options I mean Cortez & Traynor both have a Love Scene but not Miranda & Jack.

[Ashira Shepard]

BobZilla 2k10 wrote...
Samantha Traynor should have been BI as well.

Steve Cortez should have not been Romance Option in the First Place because in my opinion having both Kaiden and him is overkill Kaiden should have been enough and used the resources they used on Cortez on another Romance Option.

  

I was reading your post quite happily right until this.

As it stands, Femshep gets a total of five female love interests, if we're counting Diana Allers...

That's over the course of the three games.

In the last game of the trilogy, Maleshep just gets 2 dude romances.

I liked Cortez and I've seen the romance with him, I was fine with it.

If any resource should've been saved it should've been on Allers. What if some players didn't want to romance Kaiden? What if Kaiden isn't even alive in their playthrough? They go to Cortez.

And "Samantha should have been bi." Uh, no she shouldn't. The same way Ashley doesn't have to be bi and the same way Cortez isn't bi.

Actual, fully gay (and purely straight) people do exist. It's not just bisexuals everywhere. And I was very happy that they were exclusively gay.

Not that I romanced either of them because Samara stole my Shep's heart in the previous game... 

But back on track.

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 02 avril 2012 - 04:23 .

[Nightwriter]

AshiraShepard wrote...

And Nightwriter, I read that very last line in Homer's voice...

[Vandermint]

Here's a cut-and-paste of my request for Jack content in the Jack DLC thread. While I know everyone has a beef, I think Jack people have the biggest one: her personal journey makes Tali's pale in comparison, and her character in ME3 is wildly different than the one many of us ended up with in ME2:

I too want to throw in my request for more Jack content.

Here's how my Shepherd developed: When I started ME1, not knowing anything about the game, I'm probably the rare person who decided the default Shep wasn't jerky enough. So I gave him blonde hair and a sneer but otherwise kept the whole space marine thing.

And I played him to type: my Shepherd was generally kind and loyal with squad mates, but pure renegade with everyone else. The Council died, the Rachni Queen died, and so did pretty much everyone else in his path of vengeance.

And that's pretty much how things carried over into ME2...until we encountered Jack. My renegade Shepherd took a long look at Jack and realized that while he'd never been through the things she had, he was still on a dark path. In a way, renegade Shepherd saw the pain and anguish in Jack and was redeemed by her, and at the same time then reached out to her and aided in her own path away from the darkness. When people dismiss Jack as just the "tough talking punk chick" I believe they are missing out on the only true (or at least the best) story of redemption in the ME universe.

And in my Shepherd's case, it became a mutual story of redemption (and love), as she and Shepherd pulled away from renegade and went toward paragon, seeing there was a better way than always being fueled by rage and hate.

The pitiful encounters in ME3 between Shepherd and Jack, including their rekindling their romance by dancing, is almost insulting to the team who developed the intense emotional relationship between the two characters in ME2. The decision in ME3 to default back to the tough b--ch stereotype doesn't honor where Jack was at the end of ME2.

I don't know if I've been very eloquent, but I ask you: please create additional content for Jack that honors not the "F--- off" Jack so many ME2 players ended up with, but the fully realized, complicated, emotionally vulnerable Jack that was the best Jack. She's worth it.

[Visii]

Thanks for the contribution. Should we attribute this letter to you BSN username? Also, if you wish to further amend or add to this letter, we have until Thursday, 9:00 PM (EST) before these are all printed out. Just PM me if you have changes to make!

Also, try and get the word out, for all the LI's!

[mnomaha]

@Vandermint...not only was that quite eloquent, it was incredibly beautiful.

[omgodzilla]

Miranda and Jack banter

Modifié par omgodzilla, 02 avril 2012 - 06:31 .

[Kaija]

Add me to the list of disappointed Thane fans!

[K_Tabris]

I admire your persistence. Seriously.

Many of us took Bioware's posting of the fan-made Femshep banner for Cure Thane on their Facebook wall as a good sign. All they really took it as, however, was "Aw, ain't that cute, we have such passionate fans."

Don't get your hopes up. They aren't going to change anything. It would be nice if the ME3 Li reunions got achievements, and maybe greater line variation. But they didn;t care what VS fans wanted for ME2, so ....