The PAX LI Appreciation Project: SUCCESS!! V2 of The Book is Now Available for All!
#101
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:28
That being said, I really regret the way the aftermath (or utter lack thereof) of Thane's romance was handled. That particular Shepard had started romancing Kaidan, then was forced to leave him behind on Virmire, choosing to save Williams and the salarians. She clicked right away in my head with Thane, and during Mass Effect Two, it sure seemed to mean a lot to both parties.
Don't get me wrong. Of course I'd love more Thane. That's pretty much par for the course. These characters are great and seeing more of them rocks. As does my ongoing quest to find a female turian or spot the girls in with the boys. It'd be really nice if he garnered the achievement and a lockout of other romances, because it's incredibly uncomfortable that the great flirtation immigration begins immediately after his death. (No, Traynor, I don't want to play chess. I want to cry into this pillow!)
I still thought it was a good arch. Of course I'd have liked it to be filled out more. But it's worth mentioning the second time I actually cried at a video game was his death. Uh. The first was Mordin's on Tuchanka. The mission before that. Seeing Thane having to admit he can no longer function thanks to his illness, and later trying to and paying for it anyway, and finally praying, his last thoughts with his friend or lover, was gut-wrenching and painful. And therefore AWESOME.
What was gut-wrenching and painful and NOT awesome was Shepard's total lack of reaction. She doesn't tell Thane she came to see him at the hospital in their first of the two dialogues (one of which being the inevitable death sequence). She never tells him she loves him. With only two conversations, it's a lot to pack in. And it didn't get jammed in, that I can see. She has very little reaction to his injury and subsequent death, and after his death, she has no option to mourn, with or without the crew. Unless that picture of the drell on the Memorial Wall is Thane and Shepard put it up, which should be an option even for a friend. After all, you don't have to be snogging to care! He's still one hell of a character. I just wish there'd been a bit more to his appearance and romance.
#102
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:42
Please keep an eye on this thread! On the 6th, (PAX day) there will be pictures of our comrades presenting our letters to the Bioware table. Not to be missed, all the letters are going into a specially decorated binder!
If you wish to further amend or add to this letter, you have until Thursday, 9:00 PM (EST) before these are all printed out. Just PM if you have changes to make!
Also, try and get the word out about this, so more people write letters. For all the LI's!
#103
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:49
#104
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 05:53
Nezzer wrote...
Shoot me if you want to, but I want more Liara :
readies weapon and aims it
I did hear that for Liara's romance, it was a bit dissatisfying to have to constantly reaffirm interest in the relationship with her, that the friendship and romance dialogue got a bit tangled at several points.
We're not discriminating here! If you feel Liara's romance could have been improved, or if something in particular struck you strange, throw together a letter!
Modifié par Visii, 03 avril 2012 - 05:53 .
#105
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 07:22
Thank you, Visii.
#106
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 09:28
I was eagerly excited to see Miranda Lawson in Mass Effect 3. I wanted to see how she was doing, what she had been doing, and where everything stood now with Miranda and Shepard. How would their romance blossom or not during the war with the reapers. Would they be together or separated?
I’ve laughed and cried a lot in this game. There were some really good moments, some sad moments and some really what the hell just happened moments.
My first meeting with Miranda Lawson, I have to say I was excited to find her. I was going through the map and saw her name. I hadn’t read her email from the Normandy because I was checking out everything on the Citadel after picking up Garrus from his mission.
My male Shepard rushed over to find her and chat. There she is…
Miranda’s eyes brightened up when she turned around. Shepard and Miranda walked and talked. *I* was happy to see her, listening to Shepard and Miranda talking and checking her out, them both out. Miranda’s hair was very nice and shiny and her hair flowed a lot better than ME2. Her eyes were beautiful, as always, and her smile was very inviting. She was simply gorgeous.
Not surprised with the white outfit that is the iconic look they have established. I liked both version in Mass Effect 2 but preferred the black outfit.
I loved how Miranda flirted with Shepard asking him if she was still part of his plan. Oh yes, she is. It was really beautiful scene with both of them. My favorite!
I have to say that I did watch the break-up scene and that just broke my heart. How stupid can you be male Shepard!!! The animation was done very well, felt very real, and that just told me without a doubt how much she loves him.
I love the fact that Miranda leans in and gives him a small peck on the cheek? I want to believe that is what she did since we couldn’t actually see it.
I enjoyed the rest of the conversation and Miranda’s explanation as to why she didn’t contact Shepard during that time he was “relieved of duty”.
Second conversation:
This was very well executed. Even though, I would have loved to have Shepard see her in person, Shepard was right, it would be too dangerous right now with the Cerberus’s attack on the Citadel. Miranda was the same Miranda we knew in ME2 it seemed to me, anyways. Take charge and doing stuff herself. I liked the fact that she admitted that she had stop running away from her father. The promises lines were okay but were a little annoying as they couldn’t promise each other to be safe but who really can in a time of war and people wanting to kill you.
Third conversation:
The culmination scene was way too short for me. I loved the conversation. Miranda seemed to act a little “weird” with asking male Shepard for alliance resources. I’m speculating she doesn’t know if Shepard would trust her or that if this was particularly hard for her to ask for help or assistance. Miranda does tend to do a lot of stuff on her own. That’s why I assumed she was acting this way. My male Shepard trusted her so it was very easy to help her.
The control chip conversation was a good addition. Miranda finally sees that maybe her initial thoughts were wrong… she reflects on how her father treated her and how she was in turn doing the same thing with Shepard. Miranda hates her father and would never want to be him. I loved the heavy sigh or whatever that was when she had to explain something tough. It’s very cute. The calmness of her voice and actions also adds to her character. I like.
I loved how male Shepard thanked Miranda for bringing him back to life… I especially like how he teased her a little bit with the “it’s a little crazy.” I liked how Miranda would look at *you, the player* during the conversation option… “stopped”
The music was perfect introduction to the love scene! Where’s the love scene?! I loved the lead up to it. The smile on her face and eyes brightening up from Shepard’s “Come here.”
I think the scene ended too short! The buildup was good but felt no completion or resolution to what just happened. It was too abrupt of an ending of that scene. Where you have other LI’s with pillow talk… it could have been added…
A kiss or talk about how they felt for each other... Something!!! They didn’t have to show them screwing but at least kissing and then fade into another scene where one of them is either getting out of bed or have gotten dressed. Or even laying underneath the sheets talking. Ahhh! I could go on!
Fourth conversation:
Okay, I was a little worried about Miranda in Sanctuary and the reapers running around. The videos were good and added *some* information as to what was going on. I would have loved a little more… *showing and not telling* Miranda actually doing the stuff but guess that was difficult? Kia Leng and Miranda conflict would have been interesting fight to see. I know I’d hate the bastard even more with him even touching or hurting Miranda in any of his moves. I’d be even more pissed when Shepard does confront the ‘slippery bastard’.
Finally meeting Miranda and her father was the highlight of the game I was looking forward to. We finally got to see what he looks like, what he acts like, and talks like. I would have love to learn a bit more about him but I guess that’s what he videos were for in the beginning of Sanctuary but I felt it wasn’t enough, really.
I really had to wonder what happened before Shepard came through those doors. Apparently, Oriana tried to shoot him, and Miranda was on the floor but I would have loved to see what had transpired before Shepard’s arrival. Would it have given us any deeper meaning to how Miranda, Oriana and Mr. Lawson reacted to each other? Heated arguments???
I think the certain conditions you had to take to make sure Miranda survived were necessary and you could decide to have Miranda live or die by those actions.
The only thing I didn’t like was that Miranda never told Shepard how she felt about him. Shepard could never tell Miranda she could have all those things she says she couldn’t have. Why couldn’t she have them, was it only because she was dying or would she say she shouldn’t even if she lived? Did she need to be convinced or did Miranda secretly want these?
Mr. Lawson was indeed all about himself and saving his own ass. Using Oriana as human shield so they wouldn’t kill him… he showed himself to be pretty pathetic and exactly what Miranda said he was. Mr. Lawson attitude towards Miranda clearly shows he’s verbally abusive when we know Miranda’s influence isn’t poisonous… Mr. Lawson is the one who is. I’m glad, Miranda was able to kill her father and free them from his abuse.
The death scene of Miranda’s was pretty intense and made me cry when I watched it on Youtube… I liked how she told Shepard she loved him and they kissed but they should have been able to say these things without Miranda dying. I’ll never have her die in any of my play through.
I liked the girly laugh of Mr. Lawson falling to his death despite what other fans think about it. Miranda’s expression of “no deal” LOVED IT!
The following talk with Shepard and Miranda was VERY moving! I just wished they kissed!!! An interrupt after she said “Bastard” would have been great!!! Rawr…
I’m sure that might have changed the whole dynamic of that ending…
I liked the exchange with Miranda and Shepard's conversation... "Did you worry?"
And the loved the part where Shepard tells Miranda. "...I think you did okay." In regards to the Reapers attacking a fortified Cerberus facility... her run in with Kai Leng and her father... and lived through it all.
Other fans asked why she couldn’t come up to the Normandy and use the med bay. Was it because of an ALLIANCE ship??? Of course, Male Shepard wouldn’t want to risk Miranda being arrested… but seems weird after you get an email which I liked with Miranda helping the Alliance take down Cerberus Cells in the background.
Shepard did have the authority to outrank anyone on board with his Spectre status, yes???
I also believe this could have been another opportunity for Miranda and Shepard to be together before the attack on the Cronos Station. Miranda is coming back to the place she started at in ME2... a call back if you will. I think it would have tied up a bit of lose ends with Miranda and Cerberus.
I would have also like some interaction with Miranda and the team mates, and maybe Ashley and Liara, if they were in the party or on the Normandy. The tension could have been great or they could become good friends. Leaving the past Cerberus tension behind...
Fifth conversation:
Wow… This was pretty good and now I want to make damn sure Shepard keeps his promise to Miranda. I’ve only chosen the destroy ending and without getting into how wrong I feel the game ending and that nothing ever matter in the entire series…
I want to say that Shepard should find Miranda or better yet, Miranda SAVES Shepard yet again.
Miranda has the determination and desire to get the job done. She has the fire and determination to keep her loved ones safe. I just hope they both survive and have a happy reunion, somewhere….
Romance DLC?
This could be really good to implement say before all the ending goes to places I don’t like…
Miranda and Shepard could spend more time together, romancing each other… I think this would make it even more impact but I really want them to be together in the end. They made it even if the writers, company does not.
Anyways, that’s my take on Miranda. I loved EVERY minute of what was given to us but wanted more time with Miranda. Miranda is a fascinating character full of stories left to be told. She is strong, passionate, caring, tough, demanding, and a bit unsure of herself when it comes to dealing with her gifts and how she was created. I think she’s overcome some but still has a lot of growth potential in her. I think Miranda romancing Shepard has helped her a lot in seeing who she is and how great she really is because of what she’s accomplished and not just because of her mistakes. She’s earned her rewards by succeeding and not failing. Shepard is a great example for her to follow. He never gives up and always finds a way to accomplish his goals.
Thanks for reading…
~ Mellisa
Modifié par enayasoul, 03 avril 2012 - 10:18 .
#107
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:12
I'm going to release my letter here & in the Ashley thread as soon as your initiative's rolling thursday evening
Modifié par CptData, 03 avril 2012 - 10:12 .
#108
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:15
#109
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:19
#110
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:49
"It's difficult. All things worth keeping are."
Spoken by Mr. Thane Krios, Mass Effect 2
For the past two years, I have been playing nothing but Bioware games. Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2. I adore these games. The most amazing quality to them, is the treatment of the characters you introduce. They are rich with personality, and creatively thoughtful. Role playing my protagonists with these lovely denizens of your amazing worlds, is a marked achievement I have yet to find in other games from different developers. Simply put; you stand out.
Just like most of your fans, I eagerly anticipated the release of Mass Effect 3. I received the CE on March 6th. I have yet to finish a single playthrough. My heart broke when one of your beloved characters, Thane Krios, that you so brilliantly made, was shoehorned into a small, and somewhat, insignificant role. The "romance" my imported character had with him, along with his character arc he had at the end of Mass Effect 2, was decimated in my opinion. To top that off, his role in the third installment was reduced to a non-critical cameo. If the player didn't know to visit Thane at Huerta Hospital before the Citadel Coup, Kai Leng would have been engaged by Kirahee, or the Salarian councilor could die. Thane Krios would then die off screen with no player interaction, and no character recognition by the game mechanics. This is more than a pity; it is a travesty.
The following are a few detailed thoughts on your character, Thane Krios. I am also including what I actually had hoped Bioware would have done with his character, in the third installment, for the Mass Effect Trilogy.
Thoughts on Thane Krios
If you pay attention to the dialogue between Shepard and Thane during the romance, he was no longer at peace with his death. He also had so much more to his character than an illness; assassin (in training since the age of six......kinda puts me in mind of Zevran), husband and later a widower, father to an estranged son. Soulful and spiritual. Not afraid to disagree with Shepard, but not an argumentative contrarian.
We were also given hints that a life extention/cure could be possible: in his medical report in LotSB from Dr. Chakwas, it states he is a good canidate for a lung transplant. Then the CDN report on medi-gel for the lungs, which states the following:
"A new technology is helping victims of the Vallum Blast breathe easier - literally. Researchers at U. Thierax are attacking the myriad of respiratory diseases caused by inhaling dust around the blast site. Dubbed "medi-gel for the lungs," the Eupulmos Device analyzes a patient's tissue or medicard record before adjusting its virally-delivered superdrugs to match the patient's genetic predispositions. After that, the mister sprays the aerosol into the patient's nasal passages and the drug is absorbed into the lungs. The mister can also deliver microsurgery machines to make non-invasive repairs to tissue and has a color-coded nozzle at each end with separate agent reservoirs for dextro and levo patients. Said one ER staffer, "The effect is incredible. In a year, the whole galaxy will be using these things. "
The Hanar have been working on a cure for some time, and he speaks of this himself when you first meet him. But he says in the first dialogue on the Normandy, that he will most likely not live to see it. However, if his life was extended by one of the means that I mentioned above ( also the Batarians are supposedly successfully growing replacement organs; this science/technology could have also been applied), and assuming there was a galaxy left spinning, he could have possibly lived to see that Hanar cure.
It saddens me when one who is ill, is defined by their illness. In my 42 years I have seen family members and friends diagnosed with illnesses, some that turned out to be terminal. This did NOT stop them from having a will to live and trying to hope, and using all available means to them, to fight their disease. Thane's character is so much more than an illness, and I had every reason to hope that Bioware would have honored that.
On the Bioware Social Network, I have in my Signature the following..."It's Mr.Thane Krios to you......not Mr.Kepr Al Syndrome." I have always found it strange that Thane's illness would be what defines his character to some players. Here are the things that always stuck in my mind more than anything else, on this rich and complex man:
1) The following memories of his interaction with Mouse on the Citadel..."all scabby knees and broken teeth." I imagine this grubby little boy with saucer eyes looking expectedly up at Thane while searching his pockets for treats or coins, and the Holo of Thane's son. Very endearing; heart wrenching.
2) His memories of a specific moment with his son and "dancing crazy", but then the interruption with work. Work that would eventually cause (unintentionally) his wife's death, and loss of time and relation with his son.
3)The description of how he met Irikah....."sunset colored eyes." I so wanted to meet this woman. I think I developed a little crush on her just from his few remarks.
4)His descriptions of the Drell memory...."taste of another's tongue...". Absolutely mesmorizing.
5)Learning of the Compact. I had wished my Shepard could've asked more questions. Mourning potentially for a child's lost childhood. But, never knowing for sure without further investigation. (Again, Thane's assassin training put me in mind of Zevran from DAO, but without the truly horrific backround...i.e. born in a ****house, sold to the Crow's, and torturous training.)
I never forgot he had Kepral's, and the romance does makes it stand out some, only because he does NOT accept death. Between his son and Shepard (and I would also like to believe, some friendships with other squadmates), he had reasons to try and extend his own life. But I still did NOT define him by his disease. He was a perfectly realized character, with or without the Syndrome.
One last note. I always role played my Shepards, as caring deeply for their LI, squadmates, and crew. THIS is what motivated me, and in return the shepards I played with, to continue to fight. To continue to play these games. Shepard would fight for THEIR lives, and in return, the Galaxy would reap the benefits.
How I had hoped it would have gone......
I honestly believed that Bioware was planning to utilize ALL the wonderful characters (squadmates in particular), they had created in the first two Mass Effect games, for Mass Effect 3. This could have been easily done, in regards to Thane Krios' involvement, that would have satisfied Thane romancers AND those that wanted a different fate (death, for example) for Thane. If the Loyalty Mission (LM) was a success, and/or Thane was romanced and alive by the end of ME2, the writers could have given Thane some character autonomy, and have him CHOOSE to extend his life (i.e. lung transplant, lung medi-gel, some other lore fitting technology....) This would have taken place DURING those six months that Shepard and Thane were separated. Still meeting him in the hospital then would work for those that didn't meet the above conditions, and for his CHOOSING to extend his life.
If he has chosen to extend his life, he might have still needed to check in with his Dr.'s, maybe needing some health maintenance, ect....If the above conditions were met, we would have romance dialogue specific to his extending his life, and we would get the chance to reaffirm the relationship. Added dialogue/scenes specific to your choices, follow. Then, when the fight with Kai Leng happens, if you are in a romance with him (or friended him with LM successful), he doesn't get hurt badly but Kai Leng sees that you (Shep and Co.) are now on the scene, and Kai Leng takes off. Rest of the scene plays out as it did in the current game. You still go to the hospital to check on him, those that didn't pursue a relationship with him (friend or LI) get the deathbed scene.
Those that did romance/friend him, a side mission for Assets would present itself, AND for Thanemancers we would also get a love scene at some point. Since Bioware never intended him to come back as a squaddie, you could have suggested that him and Kolyat leave the Citadel to work with their potential Assets (the Hanar and Drell, for example), or join the Normandy as crew members. These were just potential ideas since Thane was not considered for squadmate status.
To cover as many role playing choices as possible, with out being excessive, there could have been a few flag markers set up in the first set of dialogue options you get. For example, make a convo similiar to the Alistair "Hardening" dialogue in DAO. First two times I played DAO, I didn't choose the correct set of options to "harden" Alistair. This could then be a flag that if triggered (or in this case NOT triggered), the player gets the deathbed scene instead. This would then cover the major role playing options. A simple list to go by:
1)Thane romanced, life extended, relationship reaffirmed, not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asset, Thane and Kolyat off the Citadel.
2)Thane friended, life extended, "hardened", not badly injured by Leng, side mission, asset, Thane and Kolyat off the Citadel.
3)Thane friended/romanced, life extended, NOT "hardened" (or romance rejected), BADLY injured by Leng, deathbed scene.
4) Thane alive but unsuccessful LM, NO life extention, Kai Leng badly injures Thane, deathbed scene. (This last one is based on exactly what happens in Mass Effect 3, no matter what.)
Thank you for providing such amazing games, and thank you for taking your time to read my thoughts.
BSN: coldwetn0se
Modifié par coldwetn0se, 03 avril 2012 - 10:50 .
#111
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:56
#112
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:58
Sorry I've gotten behind updating the first post- I'm juggling preparations for PAX with an American Assassins essay about Jonestown: please rest assured that I am receiving everyone's letters, and they will all go forth to BioWare @ PAX.
#113
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:05
#114
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:28
We have a total of 58 letters so far:
All/General: 4
Ashley: 4
Jack: 14
Jacob: 5
Thane: 19
Miranda: 10
Samara: 2
(Others pending edits)
BSN users that have submitted letters: [i]Nightwriter, Sgt Reed 24, istle,Gethforceone, Aver,Ghost_Nappa, , CastonFolarus,ADLegend21,Darc_Requiem,SilentK,Ieldra2,cbutz,o Ventus,AshiraShepard,Nielmalna, Yamainu1984,
Moira-chan,LucyMaire, BladyMZ, Flemm, Pete Ammon,TripleLife, cg8900, Aryss0410, Vertigo_1, Bronagh, kumquats, Cribbian, Babi_Siha, Premier Bromanov, Teamsleeper, Floriane Leaellynasaura, Laser Eyes, WRXtacy, mosesarose, EvamesceKunnoichi, CuseGirl, Nhimrod, Mnomaha, Ilzairspar, Wowky, James T91, Premier Bromanov (2), Hadeedak, JECW, Celbess,imp187, CPNLane, RGC_Ines, DarkPhoenixAsh, Coldwetn0se, mayrabgood, hot_heart,Grimez7, CPtData, enayasoul...
(If you submitted a letter and got a response from me but your name isn't above, let me know so I can add your name to the list!)
Modifié par Visii, 03 avril 2012 - 11:33 .
#115
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 12:32
Jestina wrote...
merikano wrote...
Spectre authority, all charges against Miranda Lawson are dropped.
Yeah, that's really stretching it there. There's already enough fan service garbage in the story as it is.
Shepard is a legendary Spectre with the Citadel Council fully behind him. Admiral Hackett, who is the Alliance in ME3, does whatever Shepard says. Shepard is so persuasive that he is capable of repeatedly convincing his dedicated enemies to shoot themselves in the head. Shepard can wipe out an entire solar system, killing millions of people, and only get a slap on the wrist. Shepard can cure the genophage, bring peace to the Quarians and Geth, and single handedly rally entire species to his cause.
But he can't stop his tactically valuable, defector girlfriend from being arrested on sight on his own damn ship.
k.
Modifié par Jafryn, 04 avril 2012 - 12:34 .
#116
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 12:42
A cookie is not a just reward for this.Jafryn wrote...
Jestina wrote...
merikano wrote...
Spectre authority, all charges against Miranda Lawson are dropped.
Yeah, that's really stretching it there. There's already enough fan service garbage in the story as it is.
Shepard is a legendary Spectre with the Citadel Council fully behind him. Admiral Hackett, who is the Alliance in ME3, does whatever Shepard says. Shepard is so persuasive that he is capable of repeatedly convincing his dedicated enemies to shoot themselves in the head. Shepard can wipe out an entire solar system, killing millions of people, and only get a slap on the wrist. Shepard can cure the genophage, bring peace to the Quarians and Geth, and single handedly rally entire species to his cause.
But he can't stop his tactically valuable, defector girlfriend from being arrested on sight on his own damn ship.
k.
#117
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 01:14
#118
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 03:14
What you have essentially done is destroy every romance except those with ME1 characters. I know, I know, that sounds dramatic – but trust me, from the fan perspective, it couldn’t sound more true.
ME3 pays so little attention to the ME2 romances that they might as well never have happened. There is almost no point pursuing them, because they have incomplete arcs and are promptly ignored in the final installment, when it matters most. It's like the game is saying, “These five are the REAL romances, the others are nothing.” Droves of players have chosen to just go back and romance an ME1 character because they feel it is pointless to romance anyone else.
This is more upsetting to me than the endings themselves. At least ME1 character fans can play through the game prior to the ending and get an enjoyable experience; I can’t. For me, there is a gaping hole in my game experience, and that hole runs the length of the whole game.
I would love to be able to tell you that lack of romance content alone doesn’t ruin a game for me, but the truth is that characters are what anchor me to every story, and love interests are some of the most emotionally provocative characters. When you toss aside my favorite love interest while exalting others’, I am playing from a seriously crippled emotional position.
Modifié par Nightwriter, 04 avril 2012 - 03:16 .
#119
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 03:36
On a more serious, less entitled note, if you do not intend to commit to a characters romance (and all the changes that brings) in future instalments then do not let us romance that character in the first place. Romance completely changes the dynamic between two characters, to the extent where you even give us the option to say that this person is why we are fighting the Reapers. Such a relationship needs more then a few lines different from the friendship path.
If a romance arc is going to become nothing but a hindrance that you put the absolute minimum work into or even completely toss aside (Poor Jacob fans) then simply do not begin that arc. Fans will not become attached to other characters and romances, their PC's will not move on and you are free to keep telling us how much we should love Liara.
I understand that changes during development have an impact, especially when we are talking about a three game epic that takes you guys seven or eight years to make, no one can plan ahead that well, so i don't expect a character who may not even live to ME3 getting the care and attention Liara got, you guys don't want to waste resources after all, but we don't need complete cutscenes to feel that connection to a character. The big cutscenes are simply the best way to do it.
It would hardly have been an unjustified expenditure of resources to make an off ship LI send you messages much more frequently, and even give you choices in how to reply.
As it stands, it feels like you just phoned it in with the ME2 LIs. You created them as distractions and shoved them down our throats, and then tossed them aside when it was time to get back to the "real" romances, characters from Mass Effect 1.
#120
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 04:10
Man, I am so far behind on that first post! Sorry, guys. My eyes are crossed from reading all these letters!
Letters: 68
All/General: 5
Ashley: 4
Jack: 14
Jacob: 5
Thane: 21
Miranda: 17
Samara: 2
Wanna see if we can get to 100? I do!
Deadline for letters is Thursday 9 PM (EST). Gotta PM it to me or post on the above thread by then so I can be sure it gets printed out!!
#121
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 04:10
ME3 was Masterpiece. I Destroyed the Reapers, and Shepard survived in the end, along with the rest of Humanity. However, the lack of closure makes me feel uneasy. What happens after the battle. It was a Victory, so what happens next?
In regards to Romance: Miranda Lawson in My One And ONLY Love Interest In ALL of Mass Effect. I feel that despite her being there, and despite the continuity of the Romantic Relationship, she didn't get as much Screen Time as I have hoped for a LONG time. I wanted to take part of a Mission with Miranda similar to Lair of the Shadow Broker. I want a Romantic DLC that involves NOT only the ME1 Love Interests, but with characters like Miranda as well. Another thing which made me very unhappy, is when I was choosing my Ending. I saw flashbacks, and I was unhappy that Miranda did not appear in my flashback. Instead, Liara appeared, which I believe to be quite unfair for those who do not want a romantic Relationship with her, or Ashley/Kaidan, Tali, or Garrus. Miranda is My Love Interest, NOT Liara.
I would like to see Closure with Miranda after the war. Since she survived in my ME3 File, she told me to find her when this was over, and I promised her that I will. I want to keep that promise, IN A GOOD WAY....I do NOT want to see her dead! I want-DARE I SAY-a Happy Ending with Miranda at the End of ME3. I do not want to imagine it, I want to SEE it. PLEASE!?
Sincerely, a HUGE Fan,
Luis, AKA MASSEFFECTfanforlife101
PLEASE Send This Letter.
Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 04 avril 2012 - 04:21 .
#122
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 04:18
On a different topic, is anyone going to PAX? The people that are taking these letters are going, of course, just wondering if anyone else is going...
#123
Posté 04 avril 2012 - 04:28
That's what I'm talkin' about.AntiChri5 wrote...
First of all, it is beyond cruel to give Jack a new outfit that does such a great job of showing off her nipples, have her mention the N7 tattoo on her ass and then NOT have a romance scene. Seriously, NOTHING? What the hell man. What the hell.
On a more serious, less entitled note, if you do not intend to commit to a characters romance (and all the changes that brings) in future instalments then do not let us romance that character in the first place. Romance completely changes the dynamic between two characters, to the extent where you even give us the option to say that this person is why we are fighting the Reapers. Such a relationship needs more then a few lines different from the friendship path.
If a romance arc is going to become nothing but a hindrance that you put the absolute minimum work into or even completely toss aside (Poor Jacob fans) then simply do not begin that arc. Fans will not become attached to other characters and romances, their PC's will not move on and you are free to keep telling us how much we should love Liara.
I understand that changes during development have an impact, especially when we are talking about a three game epic that takes you guys seven or eight years to make, no one can plan ahead that well, so i don't expect a character who may not even live to ME3 getting the care and attention Liara got, you guys don't want to waste resources after all, but we don't need complete cutscenes to feel that connection to a character. The big cutscenes are simply the best way to do it.
It would hardly have been an unjustified expenditure of resources to make an off ship LI send you messages much more frequently, and even give you choices in how to reply.
As it stands, it feels like you just phoned it in with the ME2 LIs. You created them as distractions and shoved them down our throats, and then tossed them aside when it was time to get back to the "real" romances, characters from Mass Effect 1.
Modifié par Nightwriter, 04 avril 2012 - 04:47 .
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Posté 04 avril 2012 - 04:39
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Posté 04 avril 2012 - 04:40
I sent my Letter Let me know if I need to fix anything up at all





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