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Are the Quarian culture closely related to the Middle east?


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Krogan: Spartan. Not because they yell, but they're warriors through and through. They have very simple desires, and they fight to get them, but that doesn't mean they are brutes. Most are intelligent and clear sighted.....MOST.

Uhh, did we play the same game? Because nearly everything we've seen about the Krogan suggests that they're the opposite of intelligent and clear sighted. They nuked their own world into a slag heap and after the Salarians uplifted them, their warlike nature forced the Salarians to unleash the genophage on them. Now they're dying off because they're too dumb to get over their clan warfare mentality and focus on rebuilding.

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Agamo45 wrote...

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Krogan: Spartan. Not because they yell, but they're warriors through and through. They have very simple desires, and they fight to get them, but that doesn't mean they are brutes. Most are intelligent and clear sighted.....MOST.

Uhh, did we play the same game? Because nearly everything we've seen about the Krogan suggests that they're the opposite of intelligent and clear sighted. They nuked their own world into a slag heap and after the Salarians uplifted them, their warlike nature forced the Salarians to unleash the genophage on them. Now they're dying off because they're too dumb to get over their clan warfare mentality and focus on rebuilding.


Well, they have Wrex. Sometimes a great leader can overcome a stupid
populace. I kinda saw him as an example as an...."ideal krogan." One
that has the old values, but creates new ones based on adapting to the
changes in the galaxy and his people.

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And here I thought they were all Russians.


If they were Russians there would be much heavier use of emergency induction ports. :devil:

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The Drell are pretty darn Hindu as well. Polytheism.

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As for the Asari, they're vaguely reminiscent of ancient Greece or the 'city-state' period of Italy. They have a fully participatory e-democracy based around following specific leaders/Matriarchs. Their 'city states' are as much socially oriented as geographically oriented. With their society based more on cooperation and maintenance of the status quo, they're basically what the ancient Greeks could have been if they were a gynocracy.

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Agamo45 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...



Krogan: Spartan. Not because they yell, but they're warriors through and through. They have very simple desires, and they fight to get them, but that doesn't mean they are brutes. Most are intelligent and clear sighted.....MOST.

Uhh, did we play the same game? Because nearly everything we've seen about the Krogan suggests that they're the opposite of intelligent and clear sighted. They nuked their own world into a slag heap and after the Salarians uplifted them, their warlike nature forced the Salarians to unleash the genophage on them. Now they're dying off because they're too dumb to get over their clan warfare mentality and focus on rebuilding.


that seems more like a description of the Krogan in ME1 and 2 lol not necessarily 3, where Wrex rallies them and gets them to be more productive.

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And here I thought they were all Russians.


If they were Russians there would be much heavier use of emergency induction ports. :devil:


If Tali is an example, then the Qurians are too light of drinkers to be Russian :whistle:

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I'd say the quarians—and the other ME races—are based off of a mix of different cultures. Though Arabic/Islamic is likely a big source of inspiration for the quarians.

Though I'm not well-versed enough in the culture to note any similarities, Garrus' last name sounds really Armenian to me.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Brawne wrote...

Calibrations Expert wrote...

And here I thought they were all Russians.


If they were Russians there would be much heavier use of emergency induction ports. :devil:


If Tali is an example, then the Qurians are too light of drinkers to be Russian :whistle:

Ok, think about this. There are only 2 people who ever get drunk. And only one of those people has to get drunk. And that's Tali.

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Initially, yes. ME2 kind of removed that and made them more multicultural with Zaal'Koris, Daro'Xen, and Han'Gerrel having British accents and Kal'Reegar with his southern American accent. Only Shala'Raan really carries over the middle eastern accent. Maybe Veetor. Hard to really pin his accent with him being hysterical.

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Agamo45 wrote...

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Krogan: Spartan. Not because they yell, but they're warriors through and through. They have very simple desires, and they fight to get them, but that doesn't mean they are brutes. Most are intelligent and clear sighted.....MOST.

Uhh, did we play the same game? Because nearly everything we've seen about the Krogan suggests that they're the opposite of intelligent and clear sighted. They nuked their own world into a slag heap and after the Salarians uplifted them, their warlike nature forced the Salarians to unleash the genophage on them. Now they're dying off because they're too dumb to get over their clan warfare mentality and focus on rebuilding.


I do understand why the Salarians nuked Tuchanka with the genophage, but saying that the Krogan race is dumb and helpless is an overstatement. They are not necessarily dumb, rather just unlucky. It is not their fault that they breed a collossal amount of children a day, and war is in their blood. Not stupid, just very brutal and direct instead of talkative which really makes them a war species, which really makes them perfect spartans.

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they also open the trial with a jewish prayer (well the jewish one is "thank you God for allowing us to reach this season...)
plus crafty talented nomads who everyone thinks are shifty and nobody wants around, always striving to return to their lost homeland, sorta struck me as space-jews. (we're jewwwwws out in spaceeeee we're zooming along protecting the hebrew race...)
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They are a combination they share alot of the medival muslim empire when their science and mathematics where way beyond the european scale
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Muslims aren't allowed to get drunk - not even by emergency induction port.

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Last I checked Quarians don't stone rape victims, so I'm tempted to say no. That or they're some of kind of enlightened future Arab culture.

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I'd say migratory nature is closer to Huns. Huns used their shields as cooking plates. (The military ships are home when not in war.) Also the Hun armies were extremely migratory but most Huns who marched with Attila wanted to go home.
Japanese and their ancestor worship and another close and tight knit community. Note that when disaster strikes Japan had NO looters and everyone supported everyone.
Ancient Jewish. In that rather close nit community where everyone in a tribe is like family. The old Jewish tribes were like vast families with massive amounts of fathers and sons carrying on the old names. Lists of ancestors with pride. BIGGEST however is the biblical journey through the desert in search of a promise land. All though their Migration was not caused by slavery, but their own 'sins' rebounding upon them in the form of the Geth.

The Muslim thing is mostly based off of them being migratory when there are many other cultures to fit it too. But there is far more of a link to biblical Jewish/Hebrew roots.

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We'd better pack them up in their homeworld so they no longer bother anyone

And are a client race of the humans.  But not so they subvert and leech off of us

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Harorrd wrote...

They are a combination they share alot of the medival muslim empire when their science and mathematics where way beyond the european scale


Science and mathematics from the ancient greeks

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I've always thought Bioware was influenced by Arab culture when writing the Quarians, possibley by the Jewish culture as well. On the Flotilla, the writing looks similar to Aramaic.

Modifié par Cat71, 01 avril 2012 - 12:55 .


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Peer of the Empire wrote...

Harorrd wrote...

They are a combination they share alot of the medival muslim empire when their science and mathematics where way beyond the european scale


Science and mathematics from the ancient greeks


Harrord is right on this one. It actually was the Arabians that gave us mathe and our number systems. I can't say anything about the science though

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HinataKawaiiDesu wrote...

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Harorrd wrote...

They are a combination they share alot of the medival muslim empire when their science and mathematics where way beyond the european scale


Science and mathematics from the ancient greeks


Harrord is right on this one. It actually was the Arabians that gave us mathe and our number systems. I can't say anything about the science though


Arabic numerals originally came from India.  Westerners call them Arabic because they got the numbers from the Arabs.  However, the medieval Arabs did invent algebra.

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I think the quarian/geth conflict might be intended to be reminiscent of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict now. And they do seem to have quite a few middle eastern influences(most notably the voices), that and gypsies.

Asari I feel might have some Hindu influences with the pantheon of Gods and blue skin(like a Hindu deity), but not really sure. They might just be blue space floozies.

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I thought they were based off gypsies cultures of eastern europe?

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ahandsomeshark wrote...

I thought they were based off gypsies cultures of eastern europe?


They're based off the Roma as well.  Generally, the different races take inspiration from a variety of sources, which was a smart decision on BioWare's part.  

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Chemistry, the *science* of it, came from the Middle East. The number system we use today, with its positional notation and concept of zero, came from the Middle East. While European medicine involved sticking leeches on people and cracking skulls open, Middle Eastern medicine was discovering the importance of hygiene on the spread of infectious diseases, among other advances.
While European masons were still trying to figure out how to build elaborate structures out of stone by guesswork, Middle Eastern engineering relied on mathematics and developed the dome.
While Europeans were still looking up at the stars and trying to figure out what they 'meant', Middle Eastern observers were developing the study of astronomy as a science.
The sacking of Baghdad by the Huns, and the destruction wreaked among the scholars gathered there, are the primary reason that the Muslim world lost its edge in science.

Modifié par StarcloudSWG, 01 avril 2012 - 01:06 .