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[magikbbg]

Also if it was done in order to make a micro transaction of 10-20bucks to see the ending it makes sense too. But it hurts their reputation, in my line of work I can sell a customer one thing really over priced one time - but they'll never come back to my business. It doesn't make sense for me to rip them off one time. I rather have very satisfied repeat customers.

With the poster above - maybe they did plan to sell it buy you're right it is a scumbag way to make money. Maybe games will just cost $99 soon (with ending included!) or else you can get a demo for 59.99 Or collectors edition demo for 79.99

[Rob_Nix]

Beating Indoc should'a been the best ending. You see the results of pulling through. Bad ending is living in an Indoc dream.

[ThePrestige10]

The Best Ending of all Time. You probably haven't experienced enough good stories.

If Bioware tried what you think they tried, then they still did it a hundred times worse than "Blade Runner".

But I shouldn't probably even try to explain...

[Nab20]

Reapers are still destroying everything and we have absolutely no idea where (the real)TIM is. What an amazing ending.

[The Makr]

Even better if the writers didn't actually mean to do an IT ending, but they somehow produced just that anyway - subconsciously.

Bioware's writers have become indoctrinated! I kid, but i'm going with IT since it's all I got at this point.

[The Makr]

blade runner is fine. but noninteractive media only takes you so far. I shouldn't try to explain...

[Smiley556]

iVitriol wrote...

Smiley556 wrote...

iVitriol wrote...

Smiley556 wrote...

I believe indoc theory is correct, and I think its the worst bloody idea ever. I preordered the game of a series I loved, played through it, and was hoping for an epic conclusion. But no, Bioware rather tortures me with the speculative 'ending' and weeks of waiting listening to some PR spin. I cannot fathom how you can think of this as the best ending ever.

It's better than the cluster**** we got.

- Hold the line. -

It makes more sense then the cluster**** we got, I wouldnt say its better. Disregarding possible DLC or whatever (ie. the state we are all in now) indoctrination is a worse ending. It gives even less choice and closure. I wish I could believe in the god kid space magic ending but, alas, I base my beliefs on evidence, not on what I like more.

There would have to be more gameplay and story obviously.
Just waking up and going "oh sh*t, it was a dream" ain't gonna cut it.

Yup, but sadly this is the state we are in now untill we hear something from Bioware. The only way to make the ending happy now before any official statement is to make assumptions as to where it will go from here or as to what bioware intended. I dont like making assumptions.

[Kanner]

Because 'it's just a dream' isn't insanely hackneyed and weak as endings go?

Because star-child's christian overtones send the series in an entirely unwelcome direction?

Because Shepard is actually stupid now, to have imagined something so ridiculous?

Because Bioware/EA have sat around in silence for a month denying anything and everything, instead of completing the 'joke' in a timely, interesting fashion?

Because a company that can ruin DA2 and meh-up an iconic franchise like StarWars is obviously so amazingly talented that there's no other possible explanation?

Because any company smart enough to pull off IT would also have to smart enough to see why doing that would be such an utter, incredible dick move and would just forge ahead with making the best game they absolutely could?

Because despite losing their lead writer to another project, having to add a multiplayer component, and getting their development schedule crushed down to less than two years, they've still got time to mess around like this?

[BDelacroix]

Says you.

If its indoctrination and therefore the equivelant to being "all a dream" we still have no ending and the writers wasted our time.

[The Makr]

Fighting indoctrination is hardly a "it's all a dream" scenario. When I dream at night, i don't wake up a brainwashed automaton that wants to kill all organics. Shep is not exactly counting sheep when he gets fried by Harbinger and goes down on the field during his run up. True the story should have continued or been followed by swift and free DLC. No argument there. I feel like I'm not yet done until my shepherd breathes no more and last I saw I was still breathing.

[ChuckieJ]

Ratham wrote...

What if they roll with the Indoc Theory but didn't originally plan it? Then the fans gave them a get out of jail free card. Of course even if this is true they'll still say it was planned all along.

In the Geoff Keighly app about the development of ME3, Bioware says they planned an indoctrination scene where Shepard becomes indoctrinated but they couldn't get the gameplay mechanic of "indoctrinated Shepard" figured out. (I'm imaginging a Husk-Shep walking around) They scrapped that but as SwobyJ said, it doesn't say they scrapped the story element.

The evidence is quite strong even without this brief mention in the app that they planned Indoc all along.

Fulgrim88 wrote...

It's also the biggest ripoff of all time.

Day one dlc AND an incomplete ending? Certainly genius. But only from a sales perspective.
Might end up hurting them more than it gained though

Games as big as these can be "finished" 1-3 months before going Gold status. There's a huge bug hunt at the end. During this time and while waiting for Certification they worked on the From Ashes DLC. Certain parts made it into the final code but most of the content (discussion with players if he goes on each mission, etc) was in the DLC, not the main game.

That said, I agree with people who say that something as important as a Prothean shoud have been included. And why was this the first Limted Edition I know of that actually was very limited? And I agree that this was a HUGE risk!

rachellouise wrote...

'it was all a dream' is far from the
best ending, and one generally avoided. I hope they clear some things
up..but I would prefer something else to that

I wish people would stop calling it a dream. It's a hardcore, forced, hallucination where the Reapers have one last chance to stop Shepard and the galaxy from beating them. Beating the Protheans was far easier! They literally have one shot left, turning Shepard. 

[CuseGirl]

Fulgrim88 wrote...

It's also the biggest ripoff of all time.

Day one dlc AND an incomplete ending? Certainly genius. But only from a sales perspective.
Might end up hurting them more than it gained though

THIS. Why people are championing the Indoc Theory is beyond me. That means they DELIBRATELY shipped an unfinished game. Bioware? Of all the companies? To ship an incomplete game? Pure nonsense.

And don't get me started on the DLC......

The other issue I have with the Indoctrination "Theory" is that it is a theory. At some point, in story-telling, you have to tell the audience or player explicitly that they are indoctrinated. And no, Anderson screaming "listen to yourself, you're indoctrinated" (while TiM is speaking) doesn't count. 

Modifié par CuseGirl, 01 avril 2012 - 12:37 .

[ChuckieJ]

Because star-child's christian overtones send the series in an entirely unwelcome direction?

Because Shepard is actually stupid now, to have imagined something so ridiculous?

There's nothing Christian about the StarChild or what he says. Shep isn't imagining anything. It's being forced on him/her in his/her weakened state.

[DarthSyphilis59]

If indoctrination theory is true, which I hope it is, it would be a great twist, but there's a caveat. There needs to be a real ending in the form of DLC, hopefully free DLC. If they had this in the works and expect people to pay for the real ending it will truly be a low point in gaming history. I would probably pay for it because I want the bad taste out of my mouth, but it would probably be the last time.

[CuseGirl]

If the "ending DLC" comes out with a price tag, that DAY, I'm trading my game in. I will not pay for the ending of a game. EVER.