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[The Angry One]

It's come up in a few discussions now and then from various people that, no matter what the consequences of the ending, the cycle is in fact broken, Reapers are no longer a threat and future races will be free of bad Reaper influence, being culled etc. etc.

There's one issue I have with this: I DON'T CARE.

I got into Mass Effect because I became invested into the galaxy, it's various races and the galaxy.
I don't care whether the Yahg are now free to expand across the galaxy and eat puppies or whatever it is they do.
I don't care that in 10, 20, 30,000 years there'll be some form of galactic society again and I certainly don't care what some senile old man has to say to his naive grandson 10,000 years in the future on some backwater world I don't know and don't give a damn about!

I care about this galaxy, as is. I care about Garrus, about Liara, about Kaidan, about Tali building her home on Rannoch, about Wrex raising his new children. I care about Jack and her students, about Conrad, about Bailey. I care about the Turians, the Asari, the Quarians, the Geth, the Krogans.
Heck I even care about Vega and his N7 promotion.

That's what I care about, the characters I've gotten to know for 3 games. Not some nebulous, unseen and uneeded future. For that, you might as well let the Reapers win, because it amounts to exactly the same thing in the end. This isn't just about Shepard's unhappy ending. I want a happy ending, but even if it had to be a sacrifice, then I want that sacrifice to mean something other than some alien I don't care about not fearing the robotic squids from hell.

[zarnk567]

/agree

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

HEAR HEAR!!

[Karrie788]

Completely agreed. Mordin said it best in ME2: since the galaxy doesn't have a face, he gave it his nephew's face. That way he can fight for it.
Same with all of us, I think. We fight for the characters we grew to care about and love in the ME universe. Not the galaxy. Not organic life. Them, first and foremost.

Modifié par Karrie788, 01 avril 2012 - 02:09 .

[Grimez7]

Exactly. Screw the Yahg.

[WastelanderTim]

Well said

[Fatex3]

I totally agree with you. We care about the World that is Mass Effect 1-3, not the new Reaper free what ever it is future.

[Hunter of Deathclaws and Tanks]

This.

[Isichar]

The Angry One wrote...

I care about this galaxy, as is. I care about Garrus, about Liara, about Kaidan, about Tali building her home on Rannoch, about Wrex raising his new children. I care about Jack and her students, about Conrad, about Bailey. I care about the Turians, the Asari, the Quarians, the Geth, the Krogans.
Heck I even care about Vega and his N7 promotion.

Dont forget Blasto the hanar specter

[Peer of the Empire]

Think of the future!

[Quietness]

but think about the chil....wait
think about this children's chil... wait
think about this children's childrens chil... wait

You know what , i honestly am having trouble finding a way that ending the cycle was in anyway beneficial when even 10,000 years into the future spaceflight is a myth....

We'll ignore the massive implications that each ending would cause (im looking at you synthesis.) This was a bitter end to a great series. I agree with you, i care about the characters that i played 3 games, 5 years, and over too much time to say. Not thousands of generations down the line (assuming many of the races make it that far)

[ThisOneIsPunny]

This one holds similar feelings.

[zarnk567]

Grimez7 wrote...

Exactly. Screw the Yahg.

OMG.... that's right we saved the yahg..... whelp now the universe is doomed anyway now.

Modifié par zarnk567, 01 avril 2012 - 02:13 .

[Stygian1]

agreed, bioware has no understanding about what their fans actually give a damn about.

[Pissed0ff]

BioWare is the new Sony Everquest.

Modifié par Pissed0ff, 01 avril 2012 - 02:13 .

[aliengmr1]

Its about the characters, which are pretty much absent in the end. Before anyone says it, resolution comes AFTER the climax not BEFORE.

[Zardoc]

This is unacceptable, how could you honestly care about the characters in a game with a character driven narrative, I mean come on. You're being delusional.

Modifié par Zardoc, 01 avril 2012 - 02:14 .

[Jigokou]

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

When Javik, who's goal it was after the war was over was to return to the graves of his comrades adn find peace is now trapped on a stupid jungle planet and never able to leave YOU HAVE A PROBLEM!!!

[frostajulie]

The Angry One wrote...

It's come up in a few discussions now and then from various people that, no matter what the consequences of the ending, the cycle is in fact broken, Reapers are no longer a threat and future races will be free of bad Reaper influence, being culled etc. etc.

There's one issue I have with this: I DON'T CARE.

I got into Mass Effect because I became invested into the galaxy, it's various races and the galaxy.
I don't care whether the Yahg are now free to expand across the galaxy and eat puppies or whatever it is they do.
I don't care that in 10, 20, 30,000 years there'll be some form of galactic society again and I certainly don't care what some senile old man has to say to his naive grandson 10,000 years in the future on some backwater world I don't know and don't give a damn about!

I care about this galaxy, as is. I care about Garrus, about Liara, about Kaidan, about Tali building her home on Rannoch, about Wrex raising his new children. I care about Jack and her students, about Conrad, about Bailey. I care about the Turians, the Asari, the Quarians, the Geth, the Krogans.
Heck I even care about Vega and his N7 promotion.

That's what I care about, the characters I've gotten to know for 3 games. Not some nebulous, unseen and uneeded future. For that, you might as well let the Reapers win, because it amounts to exactly the same thing in the end. This isn't just about Shepard's unhappy ending. I want a happy ending, but even if it had to be a sacrifice, then I want that sacrifice to mean something other than some alien I don't care about not fearing the robotic squids from hell.

I am quoting this because this is SO THE FLUK HOW I FEEL!!!!
God dammit there are not enough exclamations and emoticons to accurately convey my nerdrage right now. GAH!

[Skyblade012]

Karrie788 wrote...

Completely agreed. Mordin said it best in ME2: since the galaxy doesn't have a face, he gave it his nephew's face. That way he can fight for it.
Same with all of us, I think. We fight for the characters we grew to care about and love in the ME universe. Not the galaxy. Not organic life. Them, first and foremost.

Agreed.

Not just the characters, though.  The cultures as well, I feel.  I mean, nothing we know and care about survives.

Modifié par Skyblade012, 01 avril 2012 - 02:15 .

[eddieoctane]

Perfectly said. Although I get the feeling at least one of the writers stopped caring halfway through.

[Dark_Caduceus]

I ****ING HATE YAHG!

[Narayan23]

Karrie788 wrote...




Completely agreed. Mordin said it best in ME2: since the galaxy doesn't have a face, he gave it his nephew's face. That way he can fight for it.


Same with all of us, I think. We fight for the characters we grew to care about and love in the ME universe. Not the galaxy. Not organic life. Them, first and foremost.

It is in a way ironic that the same company responsible for this line essentially forgot to apply it to their own product

[kidbd15]

Absolutely agree. I think what BioWare had in mind with the "10,000 years in the future" is that humanity is still in existence... don't know why Bioware thought we would care about that, instead of our personal friends