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[The Angry One]

Karrie788 wrote...

Completely agreed. Mordin said it best in ME2: since the galaxy doesn't have a face, he gave it his nephew's face. That way he can fight for it.
Same with all of us, I think. We fight for the characters we grew to care about and love in the ME universe. Not the galaxy. Not organic life. Them, first and foremost.

That kind of thing is what made me made enough to type out that rant.
Because that's what I and a lot of us were fighting for. We gave the game's galaxy the face of all our companions, and all the characters we came  to be invested in.

And the game supports this, for 99% of the trilogy we're fighting for the people we love and right at the end we switch to fighting for a concept. It boggles my mind.

[DOYOURLABS]

Agreed. Damn well put too.

[VerdantSF]

+9000

[j78]

Agreed 100% Hopefully BW gets it and saves this franchise.

[Vhalkyrie]

Shepard presided over the biggest pyrrhic victory since time began. The Mass Relays blowing up destroys the star systems for hundreds of star clusters. That SHOULD include the Sol System too. Any excuse why this isn't the case is garbage. A visible expanse of light viewable from space means a tremendous amount of energy is released. Why bother showing us what happens when a Mass Relay blows in Arrival if this isn't the case? Every bunny, puppy, bug, or plant in every star system with a mass relay is now reduced to cosmic dust. Shepard accepting any Reaper offer is mutually assured destruction, not a victory.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 01 avril 2012 - 02:19 .

[zarnk567]

kidbd15 wrote...

Absolutely agree. I think what BioWare had in mind with the "10,000 years in the future" is that humanity is still in existence... don't know why Bioware thought we would care about that, instead of our personal friends

Well..... if yahg are alive humanity won't be alive for long....

[Leftyguy]

Well spoken good sir!

[Big Jack Shepard]

The Angry One wrote...

It's come up in a few discussions now and then from various people that, no matter what the consequences of the ending, the cycle is in fact broken, Reapers are no longer a threat and future races will be free of bad Reaper influence, being culled etc. etc.

There's one issue I have with this: I DON'T CARE.

I got into Mass Effect because I became invested into the galaxy, it's various races and the galaxy.
I don't care whether the Yahg are now free to expand across the galaxy and eat puppies or whatever it is they do.
I don't care that in 10, 20, 30,000 years there'll be some form of galactic society again and I certainly don't care what some senile old man has to say to his naive grandson 10,000 years in the future on some backwater world I don't know and don't give a damn about!

I care about this galaxy, as is. I care about Garrus, about Liara, about Kaidan, about Tali building her home on Rannoch, about Wrex raising his new children. I care about Jack and her students, about Conrad, about Bailey. I care about the Turians, the Asari, the Quarians, the Geth, the Krogans.
Heck I even care about Vega and his N7 promotion.

That's what I care about, the characters I've gotten to know for 3 games. Not some nebulous, unseen and uneeded future. For that, you might as well let the Reapers win, because it amounts to exactly the same thing in the end. This isn't just about Shepard's unhappy ending. I want a happy ending, but even if it had to be a sacrifice, then I want that sacrifice to mean something other than some alien I don't care about not fearing the robotic squids from hell.

What you fail to recognize is that Casey Hudson is a BIOTIC GOD.

Bow before his brilliance!

(OMG, I am boomeranging right back to Braga and Voyager)

Anyways! You don't know Science Fiction!

[ahandsomeshark]

its also not actually broken. Cause synthetics are going to kill organics anyway.

[Skyblade012]

Big Jack Shepard wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

It's come up in a few discussions now and then from various people that, no matter what the consequences of the ending, the cycle is in fact broken, Reapers are no longer a threat and future races will be free of bad Reaper influence, being culled etc. etc.

There's one issue I have with this: I DON'T CARE.

I got into Mass Effect because I became invested into the galaxy, it's various races and the galaxy.
I don't care whether the Yahg are now free to expand across the galaxy and eat puppies or whatever it is they do.
I don't care that in 10, 20, 30,000 years there'll be some form of galactic society again and I certainly don't care what some senile old man has to say to his naive grandson 10,000 years in the future on some backwater world I don't know and don't give a damn about!

I care about this galaxy, as is. I care about Garrus, about Liara, about Kaidan, about Tali building her home on Rannoch, about Wrex raising his new children. I care about Jack and her students, about Conrad, about Bailey. I care about the Turians, the Asari, the Quarians, the Geth, the Krogans.
Heck I even care about Vega and his N7 promotion.

That's what I care about, the characters I've gotten to know for 3 games. Not some nebulous, unseen and uneeded future. For that, you might as well let the Reapers win, because it amounts to exactly the same thing in the end. This isn't just about Shepard's unhappy ending. I want a happy ending, but even if it had to be a sacrifice, then I want that sacrifice to mean something other than some alien I don't care about not fearing the robotic squids from hell.

What you fail to recognize is that Casey Hudson is a BIOTIC GOD.

Bow before his brilliance!

(OMG, I am boomeranging right back to Braga and Voyager)

Anyways! You don't know Science Fiction!

I was always upset that "Biotic God" wasn't a war asset.

[Grasich]

Agreed 110%

[lordofdogtown19]

Grimez7 wrote...

Exactly. Screw the Yahg.

And while we're at it screw the pyjacks and varren too.

But seriously, couldn't agree more OP. I just hope Boiware is listening

Modifié par lordofdogtown19, 01 avril 2012 - 02:22 .

[Andronic0s]

The Angry One wrote...

It's come up in a few discussions now and then from various people that, no matter what the consequences of the ending, the cycle is in fact broken, Reapers are no longer a threat and future races will be free of bad Reaper influence, being culled etc. etc.

There's one issue I have with this: I DON'T CARE.

I got into Mass Effect because I became invested into the galaxy, it's various races and the galaxy.
I don't care whether the Yahg are now free to expand across the galaxy and eat puppies or whatever it is they do.
I don't care that in 10, 20, 30,000 years there'll be some form of galactic society again and I certainly don't care what some senile old man has to say to his naive grandson 10,000 years in the future on some backwater world I don't know and don't give a damn about!

I care about this galaxy, as is. I care about Garrus, about Liara, about Kaidan, about Tali building her home on Rannoch, about Wrex raising his new children. I care about Jack and her students, about Conrad, about Bailey. I care about the Turians, the Asari, the Quarians, the Geth, the Krogans.
Heck I even care about Vega and his N7 promotion.

That's what I care about, the characters I've gotten to know for 3 games. Not some nebulous, unseen and uneeded future. For that, you might as well let the Reapers win, because it amounts to exactly the same thing in the end. This isn't just about Shepard's unhappy ending. I want a happy ending, but even if it had to be a sacrifice, then I want that sacrifice to mean something other than some alien I don't care about not fearing the robotic squids from hell.

Spot on! this is the biggest issue with the ending, I fee like all the figting we did across 3 games in the end amounted for little for the ME galaxy we have come to love 

Modifié par Andronic0s, 01 avril 2012 - 02:22 .

[The Angry One]

I fought for the Biotic God too!

ahandsomeshark wrote...

its also not actually broken. Cause synthetics are going to kill organics anyway.

True, and none of the endings really break anything, the only "proof" we have is starbaby's assumptions.
But even if we assume that it is 100% true, it still doesn't change the fact that I have no reason to care.

The ending completely ignores the characters and takes away their future.

[Toalhinha]

Totally agree

[Mr.House]

100% agreed.

[soozy]

If the game didn't have characters that I enjoyed, cared about, and wanted the best of everything for...I wouldn't be so upset about the ending. If the characters were poorly written and were filler, presented only for teammates for the action sequences, I probably would never have even made it to the third mass effect game. So in short, I agree 100%.

Realizing that Wrex is stuck on Earth and will never see Eve and Tuchanka again, that the Quarians and Geth began to actually cooperate on Rannoch to rebuild a world only for the majority of them to be stuck out in space...it's absolutely annoying knowing that those I might as well have done absolutely nothing to help them just because of some nonsensical plot device at the end.

Yeah I don't need a happy ending, I expected some sacrifice and I didn't expect Shepard to live, but blowing everything up in the end after building relationships up with characters, spending hours working out differences between species that have lasted for thousands of years for whatever reason they chose to do so makes you wonder if they even realized why so many of Mass Effect fans are, well, fans.

[Calibrations Expert]

Exactly how I felt the moment I beat the game

[shnellegaming]

The Angry One wrote...

It's come up in a few discussions now and then from various people that, no matter what the consequences of the ending, the cycle is in fact broken, Reapers are no longer a threat and future races will be free of bad Reaper influence, being culled etc. etc.

There's one issue I have with this: I DON'T CARE.

I got into Mass Effect because I became invested into the galaxy, it's various races and the galaxy.
I don't care whether the Yahg are now free to expand across the galaxy and eat puppies or whatever it is they do.
I don't care that in 10, 20, 30,000 years there'll be some form of galactic society again and I certainly don't care what some senile old man has to say to his naive grandson 10,000 years in the future on some backwater world I don't know and don't give a damn about!

I care about this galaxy, as is. I care about Garrus, about Liara, about Kaidan, about Tali building her home on Rannoch, about Wrex raising his new children. I care about Jack and her students, about Conrad, about Bailey. I care about the Turians, the Asari, the Quarians, the Geth, the Krogans.
Heck I even care about Vega and his N7 promotion.

That's what I care about, the characters I've gotten to know for 3 games. Not some nebulous, unseen and uneeded future. For that, you might as well let the Reapers win, because it amounts to exactly the same thing in the end. This isn't just about Shepard's unhappy ending. I want a happy ending, but even if it had to be a sacrifice, then I want that sacrifice to mean something other than some alien I don't care about not fearing the robotic squids from hell.

/agree

[xsdob]

sometimes I wonder why I even come here anymore. OP's thread is sad, it ignores the goal of stopping the reapers and selfishly focuses on just shepard living and not on the future controlled by a genocidal machine race. The fact that so many other people agree is even worse, it tells of a group of fans who claim to be mature on one side but resort to tantrum throwing that everything didn't end well for us, but might end well for the future, which should be the focus of winning a war.

Things turning out well in the imediate is of little concern, how things turn out for the future is more important.

You know what, screw this, any thread I see the angry one in, I'm just gonna turn around and ignore that thread even exist anymore.

Modifié par xsdob, 01 avril 2012 - 02:28 .

[Orthodox Infidel]

ahandsomeshark wrote...

its also not actually broken. Cause synthetics are going to kill organics anyway.

Except that's irrelevant; they're not going to wipe out all organics everywhere.

-10,000 XPs for taking the logic of a genocidal computer at face value.

[devSin]

Yup. The Reapers are almost incidental next to the things that actually mattered.

[Aweus]

I fully agree OP. In fact few days ago a made a post which talks about exactly same issue but with a wall of 
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10768483

In fact that is one of the biggest issues which makes current endings unacceptable for me.

[KroganBillie]

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

And while we're at it screw the pyjacks and varren too.

But...Thats how scale itch got on the Normandy

[pharsti]

Why the hell should i care ?

Biggest problem i have here is the unknown with the fate of all i came to care in this game. Remember that being mentioned somewhere, something about closure.... oh well.

Only people wholl disagree with you are those who think the ending falls under the category "awesome".