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[addiction21]

Nozamoc wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Nozamoc wrote...

Gotta love how this is being asked in a DA:O forum. This will be a totally unbiased discussion I'm sure. Never mind the fact that the games play incredibly different from each other.

I agree completely. It's amazing how mods were able to improved that game. FCOM rocked my world.

You have not really read much of the thread have you?

As its been said many times both are great games for what they are.

Many people have also said they prefer DA:O (more than those who prefer Oblivion based on what I'm reading). Very selective reading on your part.

You fail to realize that many people are on this forum because they enjoy DA:O and most likely the style of gameplay associated with it (which you admit is different from Oblivion's). I would be curious to hear how you could argue otherwise.

Edit: Or you could edit your post. That works too.

No I edited it because I reread it and I was being a jerk so I deleted it.  Long before you posted this little retort.

From what I read theres as many that like both games for what they are then choosen one over the other. Many of those that do just pick one it is because the other is not their style.  Its not some Oblivion bash fest like you sarcastically hint at in the sentence I bolded.

[worm777]

Oblivion bored me. I don't even consider it an RPG.

[Marhkus]

I would go with DA:O.

I actually hated Oblivion. And Fallout 3 was a good game but again, just like Oblivion, Bethesda SUCKS at animations. Always feel like you are surrounded by robots. They need to get new animators.

[StupidWiz]

I never beat Oblivion, It was boring and the world was too vast

[feroxthegreywarden]

toronto13 wrote...

When it comes to RPG BioWare are the kings out there,or simply,they are the best among the best.

HAHAHAHAH... hardly... fanboi...


and comparing dragon age and oblivion is like comparing apples and oranges.. sure they are both rpgs but they are utterly and completely different in almost all aspects.

[Bored Games]

Considering how much fighting was necessary, Oblivion's combat was laughable, no skills, few tactics involved, you simply swing your weapon or caste a spell... and er, that's it!!! 

Endlessly running around same cut'n paste Aylied ruins that have nothing in them... yeah fun.

The Dark Brotherhood faction quests and the Shivering Isles expansion were more interesting as there was some semblance of story.

The freedom people refer to is an illusion, because there's nothing there. nothing to do, no meaningful way to change the world, it's artiface for those who are easily impressed by that sort of thing.  Fallout 3  actually exagerated these shortcomings. To be honest I was bored within a short time, yet didn't want to admit it. I must have spent over 60 hours on it... how can you compare the two? How is Oblivion fun in ways DOA isn't?  Are you friggin out of your mind?

Modifié par Bored Games, 03 décembre 2009 - 05:33 .

[nisallik]

feroxthegreywarden wrote...

toronto13 wrote...

When it comes to RPG BioWare are the kings out there,or simply,they are the best among the best.

HAHAHAHAH... hardly... fanboi...


and comparing dragon age and oblivion is like comparing apples and oranges.. sure they are both rpgs but they are utterly and completely different in almost all aspects.

Am I missing something here?  What companies are currently producing just as good or better RPGs than BioWare?
Other than RPGs from Black Isle... I am at a total loss.

Modifié par nisallik, 03 décembre 2009 - 05:35 .

[Wolfva2]

This is a non-question as the answer depends on each person's point of view. Heck, there's probably someone out there who thinks Eye of the Beholder>DA:O. Now that I've got my nitpicking out of the way, I like DA:O much better then Oblivion. Sure, Oblivion was wide open, you could do what you want, etc. But as has been mentioned it became repetitive. And really, what was the reason for doing all those things you did? "OH! Look, a cave full of Goblins! Think I'll invade it by myself and clear them out." WHY?!? What have they done to you? Heck, if I'm gonna clear out a cave of Goblins I'm bringing back a small army, I'm not taking them on by myself. And of course, as you got higher in level everyone began wearing the same 'rare' armor and using 'rare' magical weapons. It just got monotonous after awhile for me. At least in DA:O there's a reason for doing what you're doing. Now if I could just get around to buying the books..I wanna learn more about this land .

[nisallik]

Wolfva2 wrote...

This is a non-question as the answer depends on each person's point of view. Heck, there's probably someone out there who thinks Eye of the Beholder>DA:O. Now that I've got my nitpicking out of the way, I like DA:O much better then Oblivion. Sure, Oblivion was wide open, you could do what you want, etc. But as has been mentioned it became repetitive. And really, what was the reason for doing all those things you did? "OH! Look, a cave full of Goblins! Think I'll invade it by myself and clear them out." WHY?!? What have they done to you? Heck, if I'm gonna clear out a cave of Goblins I'm bringing back a small army, I'm not taking them on by myself. And of course, as you got higher in level everyone began wearing the same 'rare' armor and using 'rare' magical weapons. It just got monotonous after awhile for me. At least in DA:O there's a reason for doing what you're doing. Now if I could just get around to buying the books..I wanna learn more about this land .

Though I say it a lot... Get the books now!  They are great! ;p

[distanceistruth4]

 I agree to some extent. I think that Oblivion was a great game, and it's hard to really just flat out say Dragon Age is better (for me at least.) I do, however, like the fact that in Dragon Age your choices has direct and future effects that didn't really happen in Oblivion. Bioware is excellent at cause and effect games, so I guess I have to give it to Dragon Age simply because that's what I look for in games like this.

[MajorStranger]

ECGreyKnight wrote...

kelsjet wrote...

Dragon Age > Oblivion?

I entered this statement into my truth machine. It came back with this result:

TRUE

well a truth machine? even the name sounds bias

I just programmed the Ark of Truth Stargate SG-1 found and it seemed to work. since this ark can only make everyone believe something that is true it must therefore Dragon age is better than Oblivion

[Dex1701]

IndyAnna wrote...
If I knew about the XP being the way it is, I would have bought fallout 3 game of the year instead.

There is no fun in redoing battles because you lost the reward for winning. There is no fun in not being able to open a chest that you can't come back to later when you have the skill to open it.

Right, because if you can't complete absolutely everything in one playthrough the game must not be fun, right?  I play games to have fun, not to obsessively complete everything.  That's me, though, and everybody is different.

IndyAnna wrote...
In oblivion, I can go back to unlock a chest, in fallout 3 I can go back and hack that computer, and in dragonage I have to leave all chests behind never knowing what was in them and watch my party level much faster than my player character. Unless I SOLO a PARTY BASED GAME.

If you can tell me how to get back into places like Raven Rock please enlighten me.

IndyAnna wrote...
Therefore in my opinion oblivion is less frustrating and more fun than dragonage. That's my opinion, it won't change when people say there's nothing worth getting in the chests and my pc will still level, just slower than my companions.

I personally find Oblivion to be incredibly bland and much, much less fun than Dragon Age due to the endless repitition, no consequences for anything, no real effects on the world (oh, I'm the leader of the Mage's Guild now, eh?  what do I get to do with that?  nothing?  nobody even really acknoledges it?  ok, then.), clickfest combat with almost no strategy involved, level treadmill, loot scaling that makes getting better equipment entirely unexciting, and I could go on.  The fact that there are chests that I might miss out on and I occasionally don't get 100% of the experience I could in DA:O are simply game mechanics that I barely notice.  Again, though, that's me.

[Skye Kross]

oblivion? seriously? i would use morrow wind there than oblivion. well same with fallout 3... rest in piece true fallouts.

still i would wait for an awesome sequel of dragon age

[Murphys_Law]

Oblivion isn't even in the same class as Dragon Age: Origins.  Oblivion is probably the worst sandbox RPG I have ever played and was at least 2 steps backwards from Morrowind.  Poor combat/gameplay, terrible shallow story, generic monsters and environments, and exploring a lifeless world isn't interesting at all.  Sure it gets hyped up to almost insane fanboy level because the grpahics were top of the line back then and were impressive.  However, many reviews and players often say that you need mods to make the game "playable".  To me that is a sign that Oblivion is nothing more than an extremely beautiful empty world that the players desperately tried to fix with mods.

[Kaosgirl]

crashxdjp wrote...

Now, I have played through Oblivion a few times on both PC and Console version. And after playing Dragon Age for about a week I gotta say that Dragon Age is a better game overall.

The only thing Oblvion was better about was the freedom and how you could go anywhere and do anything. But, after a while you noticed that the monsters were the same, all the caves and forts were all the same. Plus the "leveling with you" system was flawed in my opinion.

Dragon Age's replayability is better, the gameplay is more challenging (not just hack and slash) and overall is a better game.

What do you guys think?

I think if you could get the Bioware and Bethesda teams together with unlimited resources, you'd get either the best RPG ever released or the biggest pile of vaporware junk you ever saw.

[Trigonous]

DA:O is better than Oblivion because it's not open-ended. If you take the time to make a compelling main quest, then it makes for much better gameplay than just an amazing environment.



Granted, they're both above-average games, Bioware just makes it better.

[Morganlafey]

I was a big Oblivion fan... Til I got my hands on DA!



Graphic wise - DA > Oblivion (Soooooo much better!)

Gaming performace - DA > Oblivion (Oblivion is an absolute resource hog and very unstable)

Storyline - DA > Oblivion (DA is much more solidely constructed)

Characters - DA > Oblivion (the characters in DA have much more personality... You kinda get attached to them)

[deathwing200]

Oblivion sucks ass. The "open-ended" gameplay is nothing more than excuse for having no decent storyline. You just wander around like an idiot doing random crap, pointless. I was bored after 15mins.

[deathwing200]

back pain wrote...

Dragon age>Fallout 3 (with mods and DLC)>Oblivion (with a **** ton of mods and shivering isles)>Fallout 3>Oblivion (PC)>Oblivion (Xbox/PS3)>all those generic shooters everybody seems to like>World of Warcraft

WoW below Oblivion and Fallout?

Kiss Bethesda's ass much?

[Alexus_VG]

Not a difficult choice for me. Dragon Age fits my gaming taste perfectly and Oblivion did not. I don't like open world games. I find every time I play one I get bored before I get the chance to finish it. I like solid storyline (yes even though it makes things more linear), in-depth interaction with NPCs and the only graphics I care about are on the character models. Each to their own I guess.

[Bluto_Longneck]

mynameisdanza wrote...

Oblivion was so lonely compared to DA:O. I think DA:O is a much, much more entertaining game. Great story

After endless hours on Oblivion/Fallout, THAT was what made me shelf those games. Loneliness, you're a part of a world, but no interaction that carries you forward.

In DA:O, I can actually relax between battles and mingle with my companions. +1

[Godeshus]

Apples and Oranges

[valis123]

Alexus_VG wrote...

Not a difficult choice for me. Dragon Age fits my gaming taste perfectly and Oblivion did not. I don't like open world games. I find every time I play one I get bored before I get the chance to finish it. I like solid storyline (yes even though it makes things more linear), in-depth interaction with NPCs and the only graphics I care about are on the character models. Each to their own I guess.

I'm pretty sure if Bioware made an open world you wouldn't get bored to be honest, FO3 and Oblivion had pretty bad open worlds. FO3 for example had half of DC blocked off and you had to travel the metro tunnels by force which was pretty stupid and left only the wasteland to play in and this goes for Oblivion too, sure the map is big but it's empty and doesn't seem handcrafted.

[IndyAnna]

Dex1701 wrote...

IndyAnna wrote...
If I knew about the XP being the way it is, I would have bought fallout 3 game of the year instead.

There is no fun in redoing battles because you lost the reward for winning. There is no fun in not being able to open a chest that you can't come back to later when you have the skill to open it.

Right, because if you can't complete absolutely everything in one playthrough the game must not be fun, right?  I play games to have fun, not to obsessively complete everything.  That's me, though, and everybody is different.

IndyAnna wrote...
In oblivion, I can go back to unlock a chest, in fallout 3 I can go back and hack that computer, and in dragonage I have to leave all chests behind never knowing what was in them and watch my party level much faster than my player character. Unless I SOLO a PARTY BASED GAME.

If you can tell me how to get back into places like Raven Rock please enlighten me.

IndyAnna wrote...
Therefore in my opinion oblivion is less frustrating and more fun than dragonage. That's my opinion, it won't change when people say there's nothing worth getting in the chests and my pc will still level, just slower than my companions.

I personally find Oblivion to be incredibly bland and much, much less fun than Dragon Age due to the endless repitition, no consequences for anything, no real effects on the world (oh, I'm the leader of the Mage's Guild now, eh?  what do I get to do with that?  nothing?  nobody even really acknoledges it?  ok, then.), clickfest combat with almost no strategy involved, level treadmill, loot scaling that makes getting better equipment entirely unexciting, and I could go on.  The fact that there are chests that I might miss out on and I occasionally don't get 100% of the experience I could in DA:O are simply game mechanics that I barely notice.  Again, though, that's me.

I know the chests not being able to be opened is nit picking, but it's not nit picking complaining about the the XP system. It was not broke in kotor or mass effect and hopefully bioware doesn't adopt this XP system for their other games.

It's like a lot of people wouldn't like it if bioware decided their story telling was broke and they made a open ended game like oblivion. Then when people complained about the world not acknowleging ( I can't spell it either) their deeds in the game. Bioware would have to reply  with the answer that it costs too much. Because there's only enough money to do one, (leave it open ended with a medicore story) or the other (lock down the exploration and give a great story), not both.

I don't like the new XP system and I can't get far enough into the story to ignore my puny little player character. Who will always be puny because I can't get the levels I need to make her good enough to be a contributing member of the party.

Yes dragonage is a great game but if I want XP, I have to solo to get a decent amount.