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Mettyx

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I specifically remember that a Bioware employee stated on this very forum that weapons Shepard has will be shown in the cutscenes but now it is far worse than in ME2.

You have vindicator, avenger shows up.
You have phalanx, predator shows up.
You have tempest, shuriken shows up.

NOT EVEN FOR THE SAME WEAPON TYPES(which don't require any different animations) which never happened in ME2!

How can they lie so much?! Do they think no one notices this??
After substandard animations compared to ME2 this really takes the cake.

Modifié par Mettyx, 01 avril 2012 - 02:04 .


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Fingolfin09

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just go with it

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LioWare

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Mettyx

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Fingolfin09 wrote...

just go with it


We already discussed the rotten and self-destructive nature of this mentality of permissiveness you just manifested.

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It's funny but my character's loadout is a Sniper Rifle and a pistol and in every cutscene my shepard walks in with the Vindicator Assault rifle, when I had my pistol out before the cutscene. hehe

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Mettyx wrote...

I specifically remember that a Bioware employee stated on this very forum that weapons Shepard has will be shown in the cutscenes but now it is far worse than in ME2.

You have vindicator, avenger shows up.
You have phalanx, predator shows up.
You have tempest, shuriken shows up.

NOT EVEN FOR THE SAME WEAPON TYPES(which don't require any different animations) which never happened in ME2!

How can they lie so much?! Do they think no one notices this??
After substandard animations compared to ME2 this really takes the cake.


Some people need to be outraged at something in order to give meaning to their vapid lives. Also, that is not a case of lying. Learn to articulate better. There is a complete difference between intentional deception and accidental misleading due to game hype and hope. Also Mass Effect 2 animations were not that great, do not fool yourself.


Mettyx wrote...

Fingolfin09 wrote...

just go with it


We already discussed the rotten and self-destructive nature of this mentality of permissiveness you just manifested.



Actually this is more healthy than getting into a hissy fit over any minor detail. Its called priorities.

Modifié par Cicero.me, 01 avril 2012 - 01:53 .


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It's quite immersion-breaking. I play an Adept with a Scimitar lots of the time yet the cutscenes show my Shepard running around with the M8 Avenger, not to mention the horrible, lazy animation parts where characters reach for or holster their weapons in cinematics, in-game you could see your character place them on their backs and they fold up but for some reason in the cutscenes it looks totally FUBAR.

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Ýeah my infiltrator Shepard was carrying only the valiant and a shuriken and yet carried an avenger during cutscenes. Erm... hello?

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Cicero.me wrote...

Mettyx wrote...

I specifically remember that a Bioware employee stated on this very forum that weapons Shepard has will be shown in the cutscenes but now it is far worse than in ME2.

You have vindicator, avenger shows up.
You have phalanx, predator shows up.
You have tempest, shuriken shows up.

NOT EVEN FOR THE SAME WEAPON TYPES(which don't require any different animations) which never happened in ME2!

How can they lie so much?! Do they think no one notices this??
After substandard animations compared to ME2 this really takes the cake.


Some people need to be outraged at something in order to give meaning to their vapid lives. Also, that is not a case of lying. Learn to articulate better. There is a complete difference between intentional deception and accidental misleading due to game hype and hope. Also Mass Effect 2 animations were not that great, do not fool yourself.


>Promise you'll do something
>Do something else

In what way is that not lieing?

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Cicero.me wrote...

Some people need to be outraged at something in order to give meaning to their vapid lives. Also, that is not a case of lying. Learn to articulate better. There is a complete difference between intentional deception and accidental misleading due to game hype and hope. Also Mass Effect 2 animations were not that great, do not fool yourself.


You are pathetically incoherent:

1.this is an internet forum, peddle "I have a life" nonsense somewhere else. Nobody is interested in such vapid obfuscating idiocy. Also google "functional context".

2.when something is worse than in previous game and when an employee says explicitly that something is going to be better in relation to that, he is lying.

3.Any idiot can see that the vast majority of animations in ME2 are better, the quality of animations in ME2 themselves are irrelevant.

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Shotguns still work. Shotguns win.

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Mettyx

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I am wondering when will someone say that, like with animations, this is due to console decrepitude, completely ignoring the fact that hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, bought it for PC.

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AlienSpaceBats wrote...

It's quite immersion-breaking.


It is extremely immersion-breaking, and coupled with all the other things(poor animations) it just keeps piling up!

Modifié par Mettyx, 01 avril 2012 - 02:05 .


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Mettyx wrote...

I am wondering when will someone say that, like with animations, this is due to console decrepitude, completely ignoring the fact that hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, bought it for PC.


It probably is, but I still don't get it.

ME2 did have to compete with the same restrictions and yet there was no need to can half of the animations. Did they do something else that eats more memory than ME2 did? If so, I don't really notice much of a visual difference.

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Mettyx wrote...

Cicero.me wrote...

Some people need to be outraged at something in order to give meaning to their vapid lives. Also, that is not a case of lying. Learn to articulate better. There is a complete difference between intentional deception and accidental misleading due to game hype and hope. Also Mass Effect 2 animations were not that great, do not fool yourself.


You are pathetically incoherent:

1.this is an internet forum, peddle "I have a life" nonsense somewhere else. Nobody is interested in such vapid obfuscating idiocy. Also google "functional context".

2.when something is worse than in previous game and when an employee says explicitly that something is going to be better in relation to that, he is lying.

3.Any idiot can see that the vast majority of animations in ME2 are better, the quality of animations in ME2 themselves are irrelevant.


Please learn the definition of coherency. 

1. I wasn't peddling "I have a life". It is just saddening to see ridiculous reactions to trivial things when there are other problems in general that are more deserving.

2. That is entirely subjective. Mass Effect 2 had putrid animations. Most BioWare games do.

3. That sentence did not make any sense. Please revise so that I may understand.

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Cicero.me wrote...

3. That sentence did not make any sense. Please revise so that I may understand.


Wow, that pretty much says it all about you, go away now.

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Cicero.me wrote...

2. That is entirely subjective. Mass Effect 2 had putrid animations. Most BioWare games do.


That's not a Bioware speciality. Most game developers can't come up with something that doesn't look like ape. Which is all the more ludicrous, since modders usually manage to replace the custom animations with something much more believable if given free reign.

But the majority of animations didn't improve compared to ME2, only the variety got reduced.

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Space Magic, yeah what I do now, I just USe avenger and predator, so you it would make sense, but its quiet shame that they didn't made different animations for each weapon.

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Mettyx wrote...

Cicero.me wrote...

3. That sentence did not make any sense. Please revise so that I may understand.


Wow, that pretty much says it all about you, go away now.


Your general condecension and laziness is noted.  The fact that you cannot even accept dissenting opinions is rather saddening. To just say go away reeks of group polarization and group serving bias.


abaris wrote...

Cicero.me wrote...

2. That is entirely subjective. Mass Effect 2 had putrid animations. Most BioWare games do.


That's not a Bioware speciality. Most game developers can't come up with something that doesn't look like ape. Which is all the more ludicrous, since modders usually manage to replace the custom animations with something much more believable if given free reign.

But the majority of animations didn't improve compared to ME2, only the variety got reduced.



That is true. I wonder why that happens because I have also seen better animations from modders. I suspect though that modders generally do not have the same requirements on making a game fit most PCs though, as do developers. I do believe that the lack of animations is due to the vast increase in the amount of enemies and variety of enemies that you fight at a given time however. I could be entirely wrong here though.

Modifié par Cicero.me, 01 avril 2012 - 02:16 .


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Yeah it's really retarded, I played through with a soldier, and in almost every single friggin cutscene instead of holding the assault rifle I brought Shepard takes out the Avenger or the pistol....then once when I had the avenger during the scene he had TWO avengers...

I was like wtf Bioware.....wtf.

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They promised this and that because that's what they had in mind.

Then they looked at the calendar and budget and went "Oh no, who has the scissors?"

It's like Molyneux calling Fable the best game there will ever be. Lol we should sue the guy. Pretty much every game company lies these days.

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I recall the right weapon showing up in plenty of cutscenes, but an assault rifle in others.

Likely, they just ran out of time before they could implement this feature fully.

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Let's demand a Weapon Equipped DLC!
:)

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Mettyx wrote...

I specifically remember that a Bioware employee stated on this very forum that weapons Shepard has will be shown in the cutscenes but now it is far worse than in ME2.

You have vindicator, avenger shows up.
You have phalanx, predator shows up.
You have tempest, shuriken shows up.

NOT EVEN FOR THE SAME WEAPON TYPES(which don't require any different animations) which never happened in ME2!

How can they lie so much?! Do they think no one notices this??
After substandard animations compared to ME2 this really takes the cake.

It's artistic freedom. It has nothing with logic. Artistic integrity, artistic integrity...

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hawat333 wrote...

Let's demand a Weapon Equipped DLC!
:)


Along with ME2 animations DLC...now those DLCs would be worth buying, seriously they could make a tonne of money out of them.

I guess that's the state of the Bioware gaming now...