VampireSoap wrote...
CmdrSkinner wrote...
OP, you have a valid interpretation that the endings merely are just the product of bad writing, a perfectly reasonable, and equally likely scenario.
However, the Indoctrination Theory is also an equally valid interpretation (personally, I agree with most of it & I strongly dislike the current endings) considering comments such as "lots of speculation for everyone" and various points listed in that document to support that interpretation. Agreed no amount of IT speculation & interpretation is solid "proof", there are a fair few that seem to have that view, we'll only get a definate answer when BW provide it. Take the IT for what it is, an interpretation.
I'm not offended by your comments at all, by all means contribute your opinion to the debate. But the title of your thread, unwillingness to read why some have reached the IT interpretation, along with the alsolute certainty with which you disregard it ("see the reality for what it is", "Game writers don't hide plots that sophisticated") suggest you don't want to put your opinion on the table at all, more you want to tell those who agree with it how "wrong" they are. That is why I can't take you seriously either...
First of all, I thank you very much for acknowledging the point that I was trying to make. But don't you think that it is a little bit absolute to reason that I didn't want to share opinions with others just because I said "see the reality for what it is"? Just because I said "Game writers don't hide plots that sophisticated"? Will you at least consider the basis of your conclusion? Furthermore, after being convinced that I didn't want to "put my opinion on the table at all" your action is...can't take me seriously. Is it just? Is it a reasonable reaction?
As for the topic, I'm just curious. If someone (except the creator of IT himself) never knew anything about IT, would he come up with IT by himself? How likely is that? Take you, for example, would you have come up with IT yourself if you had never heard of IT? Furthermore, if you are in control of a game company, would you produce an RPG that most gamers would not be able to piece the story together? And even after the gamers discovered the "truth" about their game, only to find that the real ending is in a 10-dollar DLC? How possible is that reality?
Or would you simply accept that bad writing caused the bad ending? And that the series is really over...
Fair play OP, I take back the whole "I can't take you seriously" comment. That was not a just & reasonable comment. However, I don't consider my conclusion unfairly biased, because;
1) I acknowledged that "bad writing = bad ending", as I said perfectly valid & reasonable assumption, furthermore I agreed with its likelihood as a possible explanation.
2) I acknowledged the shortcomings of the IT theory (there are certain aspects of it even I find far-fectched), but I do agree with the general idea.
3) I acknowledged IT is merely speculation, and will remain that way until BW make a statement, same goes for the bad writing interpretation. Until then were both playing the waiting game...
Perhaps if you had acknowledged why some had reached the IT conclusion I'd have considered your post a more balanced arguement? To me, your chosen thread title, those quotes, you didn't provide a counter arguement against IT that gave me that impression. Sorry if it was the wrong one, but if it is I'd suggest addressing those points. What I should of said was "I can't take your arguement seriously because you fail to examine the opposing arguement".
As for the ending, honestly I felt something was odd, and definately not (one of many different) satisfying conclusion I was expecting, but yeah I doubt I would have thought of IT on my larry. BW literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory! Quite an achievement to completely ruin the rest of the game & its previous intallments in 10 mins and leave so many plot holes, is it not as unlikely the producers of such quality content could drop the ball that bad? Still, after reading the discussions on here & playing the game again, IT seemed to fit rather well ("lots of speculation from everyone!"), I'm weary of falling into that trap however, hence I don't accept it as "absolute proof" like some are. I take your point about it being a poor buisness decision, but would a publisher think of it that way? An opportunity to make more money? Perhaps this reaction to the ending was not anticipated? Again, remains to be seen...
I'm curious, what did you think of the game & the ending? Would you pay for ending DLC?
Modifié par CmdrSkinner, 02 avril 2012 - 01:02 .
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That would be too mercilessly... I would still prefer time traveler teaching reapers to love 
:innocent: What I'm trying to say, there's no need in "bedtime story" in bedtime story. I hope you will understand me, I can't express my thoughts clear enough in this case 
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