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[Dragoonlordz]

SalsaDMA wrote...

No, cause I can't be arsed to google for interviews done between ME2 and ME3's release (you're free to look it up yourself instead, though, if you are that bored).

It was part of an interview where they discussed that they felt ME2 was hard to write because they had to end at basicly the same point, regardless of the choice-paths in ME2, so as to be able to continue the story in ME3 in a decent way. After that, they added that they wouldn't have the same problem in ME3, since it was to be the final chapter in Shepards story, so they would be free to make wildly divergent story branches.

I think we can all agree that this didn't happen, despite their claim.

While you have some validity in what you said in the aspect of I also recall them saying such. What they actually said is it allows the possiblity to have largly different endings. A possiblity not actually saying they would use such or do it but merely stating at that time they thought is was possible to do. Of course since that time they may have come to a different conclusion once they started trying to do such.

[Krogangreetings]

SO! *slams topic back on the rails*

this is quite a big step amazon not selling it

I pressume it's not an april fools joke since april fools is supposed to end at 12:00pm

[The Razman]

SalsaDMA wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Since you've put "wildly different" in quote marks, I'd like to see the source for that quote, please?

No,
cause I can't be arsed to google for interviews done between ME2 and
ME3's release (you're free to look it up yourself instead, though, if
you are that bored).

Not really ... I only asked because I'm pretty certain that it never happened. But I'm not the type to just say "it never happened" ... I thought I'd give you the opportunity to source it first.

I'm fairly sure the words "wildly different" and "ending" has never been put together. "Conclusions", maybe? Which would suggest the way the series concludes, not the specific ending sequence.

Either way, it's at best ambiguous. At worst, people are outright misconstruing things which have been said.

[AxisEvolve]

L00p wrote...
He hasn't been aggressive in the slightest!

You really need to change your viewing lense, this is preposterous. I am not trying to pick a fight, I am sincerely concerned that you are, as he says, too self absorbed for your own good. Get help. No, seriously.

He's just instigating. Try to ignore him. Someone posting in threads all day hostilely disagreeing with everyone instead of starting their own topics isn't something I understand. But whatever. Pro-Ending people feel overwhelmed so they need to lash out at others. 

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 01 avril 2012 - 10:51 .

[The Razman]

Krogangreetings wrote...

SO! *slams topic back on the rails*

this is quite a big step amazon not selling it

I pressume it's not an april fools joke since april fools is supposed to end at 12:00pm

It's not a big step? It's an automated system which has been duped by having enough people made a complaint to it. It'll probably get fixed as soon as a human looks at it.

[Dragoonlordz]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

wasn't this about amazon once?

Dragonthingie seems to have wanted to turn the thread into being about him/her, so at least half the thread is about that now

Thats not accurate, I made one comment and everyone decided to grab their pitchforks and torches and have a pop at me. It is not possible to turn something into about you without others attacking you constantly for having a different opinion. The fault lays with those who jumped on the bandwagon not the first post since the first post was not actually insulting or even invalid.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 avril 2012 - 10:50 .

[Dragoonlordz]

L00p wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

wasn't this about amazon once?

Dragonthingie seems to have wanted to turn the thread into being about him/her, so at least half the thread is about that now

I know. Where are the mods?

On topic: How long would it take them to review this, how long does it usually take and who does it?

The mods will do nothing since I was on topic, the first post was not invalid and I have merely responded to everyone who spoke to me, you whining about me responding to you because you asked or spoke to me is not a valid way to get a response from the moderators or developers. I have even asked you not to respond to me yet you cannot help yourself.

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

L00p wrote...
Has there been anything like this on the american version of amazon, though? I guess it's not very likely to happen either?

The problem is that a LOTS of people with use € as his currency is buying from Amazon UK or Zavvi making it affect european sales and not just UK.

[Blackmind1]

I can still buy it in the UK.

[Dragoonlordz]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

L00p wrote...
Has there been anything like this on the american version of amazon, though? I guess it's not very likely to happen either?

The problem is that a LOTS of people with use € as his currency is buying from Amazon UK or Zavvi making it affect european sales and not just UK.

With regard to ME3 on American site it is still being sold by all formats directly from Amazon (just checked).

It very much appears that someone made a complaint on the co.uk site about one version of the product and the automated message was placed until someone resolves it come monday morning. Whatever problem the person who complained made whether one or more, noone here knows.

[Krogangreetings]

Blackmind1 wrote...

I can still buy it in the UK.

you can still buy it on amazon as well just not FROM amazon themselves

[kbct]

The Razman wrote...

I'm fairly sure the words "wildly different" and "ending" has never been put together. "Conclusions", maybe? Which would suggest the way the series concludes, not the specific ending sequence.

Either way, it's at best ambiguous. At worst, people are outright misconstruing things which have been said.

There have been a number of misstatements on the ending, Razman.

Casey Hudson (Director)
http://www.computera...ly-good/?page=2

“There is a huge set of consequences that start stacking up as you approach the end-game. And even in terms of the ending itself, it continues to break down to some very large decisions. So it's not like a classic game ending
where everything is linear and you make a choice between a few things - it really does layer in many, many different choices, up to the final moments, where it's going to be different for everyone who plays it.”

Sure, you can torture any statement to your heart's content, but when you look at the body of evidence, a person can get upset when choices don't matter in the end.

[Dragoonlordz]

slyguy200 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

wasn't this about amazon once?

Dragonthingie seems to have wanted to turn the thread into being about him/her, so at least half the thread is about that now

Thats not accurate, I made one comment and everyone decided to grab their pitchforks and torches and have a pop at me. It is not possible to turn something into about you without others attacking you constantly for having a different opinion. The fault lays with those who jumped on the bandwagon not the first post since the first post was not actually insulting or even invalid.

It is accurate you really wanted it, You were not attacked, multiple disagreed with you at once and said so. You were attacked when you stated that you were just attacked and how that always happens.
Still, this proves just how self-righteous you are, believing your own innocence and saying all others involved are the crazy people/ attackers for speaking against you just proves what I have been saying.

You do not know what it is I do or do not want but then again your replies have been full of assumptions too so no surprise there. Did you even read my reply in question? Do you remember it talking specifically about people putting words in my mouth and shall I highlight in your reply what you just did?

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 avril 2012 - 11:08 .

[Gatt9]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...
A prime example is when I mentioned stock levels. You went on and ranted about it along with others directed at me for few pages instead. Don't whine about being on topic when you ranted at me not the topic for many pages.

Awesome, Amazon sold 4 copies at a discount in about an hour. At that rate, they'll sell 2900 in a month.

As we had this discussion in another thread where I pointed at data we have access to regarding sales showing very high sales, you digressed and tried to change it to about how much cost to develop. I have no intention of rehashing this with you.

I remember that thread,  it was the one where you were using VGChartz numbers,  despite having been told repeatedly how they're so invalid,  that even most Industry sites have outright called them on making numbers up.

But that isn't the answer you wanted,  you wanted to hear ME3 is the best selling game ever.

So I'm guessing you opted to ignore the fact that your source is regarded as invalid by pretty much everyone.

I know what branching means thanks, I have discussed it at great lengths on many forums as both a concept and affect on content. Bioware will not fold, they do not cave into bullying tactics. That won't change now. Any feedback they recieve they will listen to which has always been the case then 'they' will resolve it as they always have in a manner they wish to do so

Here's yet another thing you need to start doing research on.  You need to go read EA's quarterlies,  they're losing significant amounts of money.  You should probably also go research how well they're games are selling in general.  Reports are that pretty much everything in the last year has underperformed except BF3 and NFL.

Once you're done with that.  You might want to spend some time contemplating why EA paid 600 million for a company that generally sells 2-3 million per release.  I'll give you a hint "Star Wars",  the MMORPG that looks likely to fail in 6 months.

So what do you really think is going to happen when the reason they bought Bioware fails,  their titles demonstrated lackluster sales,  their IP's are no longer able to sell any signficant numbers,  and their reputation is worthless?

I'll give you another hint.  Westwood.  Bullfrog.  Origins.

[Dragoonlordz]

L00p wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

L00p wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Krogangreetings wrote...

wasn't this about amazon once?

Dragonthingie seems to have wanted to turn the thread into being about him/her, so at least half the thread is about that now

I know. Where are the mods?

On topic: How long would it take them to review this, how long does it usually take and who does it?

The mods will do nothing since I was on topic, the first post was not invalid and I have merely responded to everyone who spoke to me, you whining about me responding to you because you asked or spoke to me is not a valid way to get a response from the moderators or developers. I have even asked you not to respond to me yet you cannot help yourself.

And that was a post you replied to that was NOT directed at you, which you still take on yourself to answer, the same thing you've been accusing me of for pages now? Are you insane?

Where the hell are the mods? Kick it out the air vent already.

If you say something about me I have the right to respond.

[Dragoonlordz]

Gatt9 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...
A prime example is when I mentioned stock levels. You went on and ranted about it along with others directed at me for few pages instead. Don't whine about being on topic when you ranted at me not the topic for many pages.

Awesome, Amazon sold 4 copies at a discount in about an hour. At that rate, they'll sell 2900 in a month.

As we had this discussion in another thread where I pointed at data we have access to regarding sales showing very high sales, you digressed and tried to change it to about how much cost to develop. I have no intention of rehashing this with you.

I remember that thread,  it was the one where you were using VGChartz numbers,  despite having been told repeatedly how they're so invalid,  that even most Industry sites have outright called them on making numbers up.

But that isn't the answer you wanted,  you wanted to hear ME3 is the best selling game ever.

So I'm guessing you opted to ignore the fact that your source is regarded as invalid by pretty much everyone.

I know what branching means thanks, I have discussed it at great lengths on many forums as both a concept and affect on content. Bioware will not fold, they do not cave into bullying tactics. That won't change now. Any feedback they recieve they will listen to which has always been the case then 'they' will resolve it as they always have in a manner they wish to do so

Here's yet another thing you need to start doing research on.  You need to go read EA's quarterlies,  they're losing significant amounts of money.  You should probably also go research how well they're games are selling in general.  Reports are that pretty much everything in the last year has underperformed except BF3 and NFL.

Once you're done with that.  You might want to spend some time contemplating why EA paid 600 million for a company that generally sells 2-3 million per release.  I'll give you a hint "Star Wars",  the MMORPG that looks likely to fail in 6 months.

So what do you really think is going to happen when the reason they bought Bioware fails,  their titles demonstrated lackluster sales,  their IP's are no longer able to sell any signficant numbers,  and their reputation is worthless?

I'll give you another hint.  Westwood.  Bullfrog.  Origins.

I used VGC because it is the only source we have that tracks each weeks sales and lists them for us to see even though I said as estimates and not 100% reliable. With regard to ToR there was an article I read which stated that it covered it's development cost in the first months worth of retail sales and subscriptions. I do not see that as a bad thing and few more months they will be on profits all the way. You have no evidence that Biowares ME3 sales are bad, the only evidence we have for sales numbers is VGC and while not perfect it is all you have to use. ToR I just explained is not doing badly, while not Blizzard quantitiy of subscribers it was stated by Blizzard they are losing players to ToR constantly and they blame ToR for their drop in numbers on top of half the development cost being already covered in the first month and the fact EA said anything above 500k subscribers is profitable, anything above a million is great and at the 1.7million last recorded they are extremely happy and truly huge profits.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 01 avril 2012 - 11:10 .

[Dragoonlordz]

L00p wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

-snip-

Owned.
Thank you, from the bottom of my dark soul.

Care to explain where I was owned thanks?

[Alex_SM]

Dragoonlordz wrote...
EA still will support them 

Like they supported Bullfrog and Westwood...