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#176
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I did not say all, I merely said others. Never referenced you directly either. If you counter someones argument even if they change tactics you counter that new one or ignore them. My comment about people who use the phrases troll or paid to mismiss another person does them no credit.


I was only speaking for myself because i can not really speak effectively for others, they have ideas of their own.


Except, of course, when getting paid to front others ideas.

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Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)

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Ah, but that's the thing: we can say how many endings there are and whether we got A, B, or C. They made it exceptionally easy for us as it's currently designed. It doesn't matter whether he's attempting to pass of the ability to kill Tali or whatever as an "ending". You could kill her in ME2 - is he going to throw that on top of the pile in his list of "endings"? I highly doubt it.  You see, ultimately it does have the traditional game format.

How so? Did you get ending A, where technology is destroyed and Earth is saved? Or B, where technology is destroyed and the Earth burns up? Or C, where technology is destroyed and you get to have a chat with Anderson? Or D, or E, or F, or ... you get the picture.

Our expectation was that there'd be loads of different endings. Instead, there's loads of slightly different endings. Do I see why that disappointed a bunch of people? Yup. Does that make it lying? A-nope.


No d, e, or f or anything else, just a1, a2,or b1, b2, or c1, c2 etc. they do not count as being full on addotional endings.
Changed angles again have you, well you are still pretty much wrong.


A1, A2 and A3 are still different endings. It was not A, A and A. Sorry but the product description is accurate even if your feelings were hurt about what you played. The product description on that site is correct and the product will be back up the moment a human on the other end see's the complaint.


Sorry,  but none of the product descriptions or descriptions in the interviews are remotely accurate.  Three endings that are completely unaffected by what you did in the game aren't branching endings.

The keyword here is "Branching",  you should probably do some research on it.  It means a series of choices based on what occurred at previous nodes",  not "Pick a color".

Further,  I realize it's your mission to defend EA/Bioware at all costs,  but you *really* need to realize you're only making the situation worse.  Every time you sit here and get an attitude because someone dared to suggest that ME3 isn't the greatest game ever just pushes more upset people over the edge.

Your choice,  you can realize it now,  or you can realize it next year when these boards are all gone because Bioware was folded.


I know what branching means thanks, I have discussed it at great lengths on many forums as both a concept and affect on content. Bioware will not fold, they do not cave into bullying tactics. That won't change now. Any feedback they recieve they will listen to which has always been the case then 'they' will resolve it as they always have in a manner they wish to do so.


Not fold as in "by bully tactics". Fold as in "no one is buying our games because they don't trust us anymore".

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L00p wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...


I did not say all, I merely said others. Never referenced you directly either. If you counter someones argument even if they change tactics you counter that new one or ignore them. My comment about people who use the phrases troll or paid to mismiss another person does them no credit.


I was only speaking for myself because i can not really speak effectively for others, they have ideas of their own.


Except, of course, when getting paid to front others ideas.


You should not have implied he was paid by either Bioware or EA in the first place just because you disagree with him.

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Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


As I said previously, we really believed you, when you indicated you'd leave this thread alone.
Tell us some more, please. We're dying to hear what you have to say.

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However, people are still pissed about the misstatements. You don't need a judge to tell you how you feel. The list of misstatements are as long as my.... well, it's long.


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LOL 

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L00p wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

A1, A2 and A3 are still different endings. It was not A, A and A. Sorry but the product description is accurate even if your feelings were hurt about what you played. The product description on that site is correct and the product will be back up the moment a human on the other end see's the complaint.


Sorry,  but none of the product descriptions or descriptions in the interviews are remotely accurate.  Three endings that are completely unaffected by what you did in the game aren't branching endings.

The keyword here is "Branching",  you should probably do some research on it.  It means a series of choices based on what occurred at previous nodes",  not "Pick a color".

Further,  I realize it's your mission to defend EA/Bioware at all costs,  but you *really* need to realize you're only making the situation worse.  Every time you sit here and get an attitude because someone dared to suggest that ME3 isn't the greatest game ever just pushes more upset people over the edge.

Your choice,  you can realize it now,  or you can realize it next year when these boards are all gone because Bioware was folded.


I know what branching means thanks, I have discussed it at great lengths on many forums as both a concept and affect on content. Bioware will not fold, they do not cave into bullying tactics. That won't change now. Any feedback they recieve they will listen to which has always been the case then 'they' will resolve it as they always have in a manner they wish to do so.


Not fold as in "by bully tactics". Fold as in "no one is buying our games because they don't trust us anymore".


Sorry my focus is not 100% on these forums and replies as I am also talking to others on MSN. I edited the original post with additional information at same time you responded but you may have not seen it due to that so I will state it here too.

People will continue to buy Biowares products even if you do not, the company and developer studio will continue to exist after you and others leave.


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The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


No one suggested she was being paid. There is no way to know anyway. It's not like she would admit it.

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I did not say all, I merely said others. Never referenced you directly either. If you counter someones argument even if they change tactics you counter that new one or ignore them. My comment about people who use the phrases troll or paid to mismiss another person does them no credit.


I was only speaking for myself because i can not really speak effectively for others, they have ideas of their own.


Except, of course, when getting paid to front others ideas.


You should not have implied he was paid by either Bioware or EA in the first place just because you disagree with him.


It is funny:
You say I have implied him being paid by EA or BioWare, yet you can not point to anywhere I have written so. You're still head over heels in love with the idea of nailing me to the cross.

At the same time, implying things when coming from the mouths of BioWare employees doesn't ruffle your feathers at all - when they imply stuff it's nothing, it's just what's written on the box that matters, not what's implied in any way. Double standards much?

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kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


No one suggested she was being paid. There is no way to know anyway. It's not like she would admit it.


L00p wrote...

More and more convinced he is paid.


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Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


No one suggested she was being paid. There is no way to know anyway. It's not like she would admit it.


L00p wrote...

More and more convinced he is paid.


Sorry, cute avatar.

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I know what branching means thanks, I have discussed it at great lengths on many forums as both a concept and affect on content. Bioware will not fold, they do not cave into bullying tactics. That won't change now. Any feedback they recieve they will listen to which has always been the case then 'they' will resolve it as they always have in a manner they wish to do so. People will continue to buy Biowares products even if you do not, the company and developer studio will continue to exist after you and others leave.


This only became bullying as a result of there responses (if you call all of that bullying). Change is change no matter how small (in this case, but not with the tiny variations in the ending). The way they said they would fix it made it seem as if they were open to some suggestions (if i remember correctly).If they aquire a new fan-base i doubt they will be as loyal or forgiving as the current one has been... until now of course.

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Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


No one suggested she was being paid. There is no way to know anyway. It's not like she would admit it.


L00p wrote...

More and more convinced he is paid.




That was for Razman, not you, and you know it. Stop grasping for straws.

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L00p wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


No one suggested she was being paid. There is no way to know anyway. It's not like she would admit it.


L00p wrote...

More and more convinced he is paid.




That was for Razman, not you, and you know it. Stop grasping for straws.


I responded to what you did not because of who you did it to. You later said you never did it, I gave evidence of you doing so. I also stated why you should not do it. This has somehow turned into a them vs me for mentioning it when you should not have done it in the first place, firstly due to it's purpose and method of dismissing another persons view and secondly due to no evidence of him being such.

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ITS A BAD ENDING WHY CANT PEOPLE STILL ACCEPT THAT EVERYTHING ELSE WAS FINE

Well, many people just won't waste their time on a movie/game/book if someone they trust warned them that ending is bad/stupid etc.

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Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


I have seen dragon before, (s)he is probably not being paid. I only said Raz was being paid because of all of the rediculous argumants that he has been making and in so many threads and topics. despite all the times he had his argument crushed. 
Oh, come on you are totally being paid already Raz.:lol: Idk by who really.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

L00p wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


No one suggested she was being paid. There is no way to know anyway. It's not like she would admit it.


L00p wrote...

More and more convinced he is paid.




That was for Razman, not you, and you know it. Stop grasping for straws.


I responded to what you did not because of who you did it to. You later said you never did it, I gave evidence of you doing so. I also stated why you should not do it. This has somehow turned into a them vs me for mentioning it when you should not have done it in the first place, firstly due to it's purpose and method of dismissing another persons view and secondly due to no evidence of him being such.


Jesus Christ on a Pogo stick, there has been numerous other people in this thread that have told you and the rest of the thread lurkers that he has been doing this in several other threads!

Now, you can dismiss that information yet again or you can take it into account for our belifs of him being a troll or being paid. Now, is that perfectly clear or do I have to write it in chinese as well?

*sigh*

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slyguy200 wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


I have seen dragon before, (s)he is probably not being paid. I only said Raz was being paid because of all of the rediculous argumants that he has been making and in so many threads and topics. despite all the times he had his argument crushed. 
Oh, come on you are totally being paid already Raz.:lol: Idk by who really.


I would love to be paid by them though... :crying:

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Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


No one suggested she was being paid. There is no way to know anyway. It's not like she would admit it.


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More and more convinced he is paid.




Okay now that is just rediculous.

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If nothing else, he succeeded in utterly derailing the thread. Nice going.

And looking at the amount of threads youa re posting this kind of drivel in, you must be either hard at work, or have a pretty boring life. Pick your poison.

As for the complaint to amazon, it could be litterally a lot of things.

From the top of my head I can think of the statements made by the devs concerning what the game will contain (and NOT contain), the continued misclaim of multiplayer not affecting single player in a way that locks out content(even though it is clearly the case), and the latest I heard was people pre-ordering on non-pc systems not getting the their rightfull pre-order bonuses but some substitute instead (which some didn't care much for).

There are probably more, but it would seem there are enough material to garner an investigation at least.

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L00p wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

L00p wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


No one suggested she was being paid. There is no way to know anyway. It's not like she would admit it.


L00p wrote...

More and more convinced he is paid.




That was for Razman, not you, and you know it. Stop grasping for straws.


I responded to what you did not because of who you did it to. You later said you never did it, I gave evidence of you doing so. I also stated why you should not do it. This has somehow turned into a them vs me for mentioning it when you should not have done it in the first place, firstly due to it's purpose and method of dismissing another persons view and secondly due to no evidence of him being such.


Jesus Christ on a Pogo stick, there has been numerous other people in this thread that have told you and the rest of the thread lurkers that he has been doing this in several other threads!

Now, you can dismiss that information yet again or you can take it into account for our belifs of him being a troll or being paid. Now, is that perfectly clear or do I have to write it in chinese as well?

*sigh*


You can try, thought heads up I cannot speak, read or write in that language. :P

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


No one suggested she was being paid. There is no way to know anyway. It's not like she would admit it.


L00p wrote...

More and more convinced he is paid.




Okay now that is just rediculous.


I know, grasping for straws.
She knew perfectly well I adressed Razman, it even says "he" is paid.

EDIT: No matter, back to topic.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


I have seen dragon before, (s)he is probably not being paid. I only said Raz was being paid because of all of the rediculous argumants that he has been making and in so many threads and topics. despite all the times he had his argument crushed. 
Oh, come on you are totally being paid already Raz.:lol: Idk by who really.


I would love to be paid by them though... :crying:



Lol, to bad for you... you wouldn't be very good at it anyway.

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L00p wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


No one suggested she was being paid. There is no way to know anyway. It's not like she would admit it.


L00p wrote...

More and more convinced he is paid.




Okay now that is just rediculous.


I know, grasping for straws.
She knew perfectly well I adressed Razman, it even says "he" is paid.


Like I said, my initial comment is about your actions not who directed towards. People resorting to making such statements not who they are aiming them at. As a method for dismissing another person it has got to stop because it is detrimental to any disucssion.

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slyguy200 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Guys, guys ... Dragoonlordz is expressing an opinion contrary to you four. Do you not see? HE IS CLEARLY PAID!!!! How else can you explain him having an opinion which doesn't agree with you?

(Incidentally ... if anyone from EA is reading ... I wouldn't mind actually being paid? :-P)


I have seen dragon before, (s)he is probably not being paid. I only said Raz was being paid because of all of the rediculous argumants that he has been making and in so many threads and topics. despite all the times he had his argument crushed. 
Oh, come on you are totally being paid already Raz.:lol: Idk by who really.


I would love to be paid by them though... :crying:



Lol, i get paid... but by who, and for whatB)
*joking,^
^Maybe:devil:


People here being paid or not - I think it naive to believe EA are not having people on their payroll to defend their games at all cost. Especially after I saw the vid in my sig.